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Does anybody here own and use the Power Probe III?

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Have one and never got to use it yet.The CD with it is 100% worthless,my brother Scott borrowed it and said the CD is not very good.Anyone instucting a class on the CAN computer systems will say not to use any test equipment on the CAN line including the power probe III.
 
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Have one and never got to use it yet.The CD with it is 100% worthless,my brother Scott borrowed it and said the CD is not very good.Anyone instucting a class on the CAN computer systems will say not to use any test equipment on the CAN line including the power probe III.

Again there chicken little, all it takes is common sense. Don't blindly put power or ground to a circuit if you are unaware of the implications of doing so, and you should be fine. Using the meter portion of the powerprobe 3 is perfectly safe, even on CAN bus lines. There is a difference between using a powerprobe to check for the presence of voltage and using it to apply power or ground.

As far as the included Cd not being much good, I thought it explained everything that was needed to use the tool. Maybe you or your brother should ask your dad to explain it to you...
 
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Well, thanks in part to all you degenerates on here, I just ordered a PP III. Can't wait for it to come in so I can run around like a monkey wid a straight razor fryin' sensitive circuits and stuff. :willy_nil
 

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Well, thanks in part to all you degenerates on here, I just ordered a PP III. Can't wait for it to come in so I can run around like a monkey wid a straight razor fryin' sensitive circuits and stuff. :willy_nil

Whatever you do don't tell Dave Scaler you have one. :spit:
 

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power probe 3 is one of the greatest time savers for electrical diagnosis that i have used
i bought mine @ 8 months ago just love it
think about things like power window and door lock diagnosis
being able to introduce power or ground to motors or switches is a great help
 

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reading over the posts i see people mentioning amazon and ebay when wanting to buy a power probe. to that i say "just dont", support your local tool dealer and spent the $20 a week. i am in charge of warranty and repair and when a tech turns in a power probe for warranty repair i always ask for a recept, if that recept shows amazon or ebay the warranty is turned down because they ar not authorized dealers. just be carefull
 

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if your speaker is fuzzy your on the wrong setting, give junior a call at power probe he will walk you through it 1800-655-3585
 

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reading over the posts i see people mentioning amazon and ebay when wanting to buy a power probe. to that i say "just dont", support your local tool dealer and spent the $20 a week. i am in charge of warranty and repair and when a tech turns in a power probe for warranty repair i always ask for a recept, if that recept shows amazon or ebay the warranty is turned down because they ar not authorized dealers. just be carefull

Why would Amazon not be an authorized dealer? And if they're not authorized how is it that they get them to sell in the first place?
 

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they get old stock from warehouses and sell them at a discount. and ebay, anybody can get a power probe and put it on ebay. we are not able to regulate the prices online like we can with the dealers.
 

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they get old stock from warehouses and sell them at a discount. and ebay, anybody can get a power probe and put it on ebay. we are not able to regulate the prices online like we can with the dealers.


The source shouldn't matter, it's still the product that you produce. It either works or it doesn't. You should be warrantying the product not certifying the seller.
 

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Hey Tipple, can you tell them to make a super long thin sharp insulated spike about 2ft long as an accessory :)

haha that would be nice, try getting the long tip for the power probe 2. remove the banana jack from the pp3 and the tip from the pp2 will screw right into it. now you have a longer power probe 3 tip!
 

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you may not understand, but its to protect the dealers.

I completely understand protectionism. You protect your dealers, you protect your margins...but...you limit the reach of your product, you (the company) thinks it's worthwhile because you can maintain an artificially high price rather than letting market competition find equilibrium.

This is one of the reasons that offshore products upset the apple cart so easily.
 

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you may not understand, but its to protect the dealers.

How about the buyers/users? :headscrat

Are there any internet sellers that are authorized? I ask b/c I've been looking at picking up one, but not at tool truck (read that "marked up") prices!
 

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i own and use two of them,one at work and one at my shop.it's priceless if you do a lot of electrical work or diagnosis like i do.i would highly recommend it.
 
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We have a power probe at my shop. Its a great tool that saves a lot of time vs doing voltage drops with a meter. It really shines when you are testing circuits that power motors and lights as you can provide powers and grounds using the tool. However I wouldn't recommend it for new/inexperienced techs. It doesn't really help you learn how to use a meter and how to do proper electrical tests.
 

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I have the PPIII and it's a great tool. Never had any issue burning out sensitive electronics with it, then again, I know not to send tens of amps at 12 volts or a dead short into a delicate circuit. The internal DMM and "logic probe" functions of the PPIII make it a great tool that lets you know what is happening at a certain junction before you get an idea of sourcing or sinking power through it. I never had much of a use for the first and second generations of the PP, now with the internal meter and handy lights, it finally earned a place in my troubleshooting arsenal.
 

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reading over the posts i see people mentioning amazon and ebay when wanting to buy a power probe. to that i say "just dont", support your local tool dealer and spent the $20 a week. i am in charge of warranty and repair and when a tech turns in a power probe for warranty repair i always ask for a recept, if that recept shows amazon or ebay the warranty is turned down because they ar not authorized dealers. just be carefull

That's pretty pathetic. Sorry I bought one.
 

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I live about 20 min from where Power Probe is, so I called them up to see if they had any factory deals, and ask a few questions. They also said Amazon etc. are not authorized dealers, so they go by the date the item was made from the serial number, not the date of purchase.

130k ohms means 12v results in a current of 0.0001 amps, should be no issue for most circuits, maybe throw off the value some on a thermocouple.
 

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I live about 20 min from where Power Probe is, so I called them up to see if they had any factory deals, and ask a few questions. They also said Amazon etc. are not authorized dealers, so they go by the date the item was made from the serial number, not the date of purchase.

130k ohms means 12v results in a current of 0.0001 amps, should be no issue for most circuits, maybe throw off the value some on a thermocouple.

No wonder their stocking warehouses want to dump aging stock. They don't want to get stuck with a batch of product that the mfg won't warranty, and probably won't buy back either.

That's an f'd up business model that has 0 regard for the consumer.
 

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That's an f'd up business model that has 0 regard for the consumer.

Absolutely !!

This thread has put me right off investing the $$ in a Power Probe.

I was all set to try to organise getting one the next time I was in the U.S. as they are way cheaper over there than here. But with no option available to me to buy from an "authorised tool truck seller", I can just imagine the mess I'd be in if I had a warranty claim.

I agree wholeheartedly with those who said that it's the product that should be warranted, not the seller. A pi$$ poor business model for the end user right there !
 

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agreed

as a company, nobody forced them to sell or liquidate their stock to discount resellers

that was a corporate decision based on revenue and profit margins

so you have to ask the question, is that product defective? if the answer is yes, then what kind of company are you to knowingly dump defective product on the market knowing that it is defective and will end up in customers hands and ruin your product reputation, just so you could "cut your losses"?

it's probably fair to assume the above isn't the case - what company executives in their right mind would do that

so.....

it's fair to assume the product is fine and works as prescribed

if so, why not warranty it?

you say to protect your reseller channel? well then if you want us to really believe that bs, then YOU protect your reseller channel and stop dumping your product through discount sellers - in other words you have with full knowledge authorized this to happen - if you didn't then you would scrap your old or excess inventory - you made a choice and you unloaded it.

so your company in this business model ***** in two ways

one, you only give lip service to your "authorized" reseller channel but you cut their legs out from under them by flooding the market elsewhere with cheap product - so when it suits you, you'll bypass your channel and give them unfair competition.

two, you absolve yourself from supporting your product with this artificial requirement. You "authorized" the sale of this product, even if you say you didn't -the fact you sold your product to some liquidator is your corporate authorization through informal channels - therefore this is product that has to be warrantied, period.

stop the double speak - one way or the other
 

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Where is the serial number?

I purchased mine from Amazon in January of this year for around 100 and it looks like the latest greatest model with the serviceable switch upgrade.

I see no serial number.

Amazon is not ebay.
 

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Its a good quality tool, give the man a break from all that political/business ********.

Tell the man that brought the "political/business ********" here not to bring it, and the problem is solved...

Nobody had an issue until the supposed representative of the manufacturer started lecturing people about their protectionist behaviors.
 

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Stopped reading after all the **** in the first 4 pages, but heres my opinion. I use mine almost every day. No problems. It works great. Awesome for testing circuits, switches, and components. I hardly ever use my multimeter any more. There are a few in my shop of all 3 generations and none have had issues.
 

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Tell the man that brought the "political/business ********" here not to bring it, and the problem is solved...

Nobody had an issue until the supposed representative of the manufacturer started lecturing people about their protectionist behaviors.

He didn,t bring anything, he helpfully offered a warning to be careful about where you buy from if you care about the warranty.

Like always on this forum someone tries to make it into a big political deal.

Its not, its a circuit tester.

We want to read about good tools, not endless political horseshit :)
 

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There was nothing political about any of my statements in this thread. You have a serious problem if you believe otherwise.
 

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I completely understand protectionism. You protect your dealers, you protect your margins...but...you limit the reach of your product, you (the company) thinks it's worthwhile because you can maintain an artificially high price rather than letting market competition find equilibrium.

This is one of the reasons that offshore products upset the apple cart so easily.

YAWN :sad:
 

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I have a pp3, great tool if used with a little common sense. I drag mine out far more often than my meter lately for the more common electrical issues such as power window and lock issues. Voltage drops and ground integrity tests are a cake walk with this thing, no more dragging out the old sealed beam with jumper wires. Will it replace a meter, heavens no, but it is a humongous time saver for simple circuit diagnosis. Again though it requires some common sense, but then if one lacks that they should not be messing with modern automotive electrical systems. I don't really care about how crappy their business model allegedly is or isn't, the damn thing helps me make money and at the end of the day I'm looking out for #1. FYI mine was purchased from my matco dealer so no warranty worries. I think it was about $160 well spent.
 
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