Obviously, the KRL is better box, but for the home mechanic, is the cost difference worth it? The 36" KRL top and bottom combo is over $5000, and the C-Pro combo is on sale for $2000. Both boxes have very similar volume; the KRL has more square inches which I prefer. Does anyone have good insight into the comparison as far as overall quality and value? I have noticed that at Sears the C-Pro box had some sticky drawers, which to me was not a good sign. Maybe go with a used KRL? Not that I am planning to buy soon, but eventually I will and just want to get opinions.
Snap-On KRL vs. Craftsman Pro Toolbox
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nissan_crawler
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the Snap-On isn't worth it, even for the professional mechanic, IMHO. My Craftsman Pro works just fine. Try putting a little weight on the "sticky drawers" as you open them. Mine were a little stiff to open with no weight, but they work great with weight in them.
Fedwrench
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http://www.sears.com/shc/s/p_10153_...et+Combos&filter=Brand|Craftsman+Professional
Is this the craftsman combo you're talking about?
If it is, it's a Craftsman badged Waterloo Magnum set. If you shop around, you can get the Magnum set cheaper however, you lose the lifetime warranty. Yes, Sears has a lifetime warranty on their Craftsman Professional boxes. At any rate, it's a good box for the shop or at home. You can even expand it with a sidelocker or drawer unit. It's only 21 inches deep which gives you about 18 inches of drawer depth. The rollerbearing drawers are smooth with weight in the drawers. It's not built as well as a Snap on box and the paint isn't as good but, you can fill it with alot of used Snap on tools with all of the money you saved on the box. The Craftsman pro box is solidly built and and will provide years of service.
If you're looking for a box, any box, I would try to find a good used one. The money saved means more tools to put in it. Boxes depreciate quickly. Although, you will come across people that want as much for a well used truck brand unit as it costs new. Avoid them and continue the quest.
Is this the craftsman combo you're talking about?
If it is, it's a Craftsman badged Waterloo Magnum set. If you shop around, you can get the Magnum set cheaper however, you lose the lifetime warranty. Yes, Sears has a lifetime warranty on their Craftsman Professional boxes. At any rate, it's a good box for the shop or at home. You can even expand it with a sidelocker or drawer unit. It's only 21 inches deep which gives you about 18 inches of drawer depth. The rollerbearing drawers are smooth with weight in the drawers. It's not built as well as a Snap on box and the paint isn't as good but, you can fill it with alot of used Snap on tools with all of the money you saved on the box. The Craftsman pro box is solidly built and and will provide years of service.
If you're looking for a box, any box, I would try to find a good used one. The money saved means more tools to put in it. Boxes depreciate quickly. Although, you will come across people that want as much for a well used truck brand unit as it costs new. Avoid them and continue the quest.
Yes, that is the combo I'm thinking of. Good advice to buy used, but I hardly ever see this one used. I have heard that roller bearing drawers open smoother with weight in them, so I won't be as concerned about that, then. I agree that all that money saved can buy a lot of tools, even new Snap-On. I need to remember that it is the tools I work with, not the tool box. I like the Craftsman unit in the store - it seems to be super solid. When the time comes, I'll have to wait for a good deal to pop up and jump on it!
SpiderGearsMan
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eddie lampert keeps losing money
selling craftsman in k mart does not seem to help the bottom line
how much longer for craftsman ???
selling craftsman in k mart does not seem to help the bottom line
how much longer for craftsman ???
SpiderGearsMan
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I have to agree with you
mechanics do not make the money anymore to throw away on the big toolboxes anymore
Fedwrench
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That's one thing that is good about some of the newer dealerships insatalling tool cabinets for a more uniform appearance in the service department. Techs can concentrate on needed tools instead of going into debt for huge taco wagon boxes.
SpiderGearsMan
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and not ***** about money hee hee
nissan_crawler
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Personally, it's all in how you take care of it. My 6 year old Craftsman Pro box is in much better shape than 80% of the 2 year old Snap-On boxes at work.
Merkava_4
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I don't think comparing a Craftsman box to an SO box is a fair comparison; comparing a Kennedy box to an SO box is more like it.
kythri
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Yeah, you gotta do apples to apples comparisons, guys. Compare the Snap-On boxes with something of an equivalent value, like Kennedy.
nissan_crawler
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I do, my Craftsman Pro will do everything the Snap-On will, and just as well, for cheaper, and last a lifetime.
Perhaps you're right, it's not fair to the Snap-On box, it makes it look bad.
Merkava_4
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I do, my Craftsman Pro will do everything the Snap-On will, and just as well, for cheaper, and last a lifetime.
Perhaps you're right, it's not fair to the Snap-On box, it makes it look bad.
I can't figure you out nissan_crawler, you'll go on and on for days bragging about the great service you get from the "Snap-on lady," and yet you'll trivialize the product.
nissan_crawler
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I can't figure you out nissan_crawler, you'll go on and on for days bragging about the great service you get from the "Snap-on lady," and yet you'll trivialize the product.
Easy, I buy the Snap-On stuff that will do what Craftsman or other brands won't.
You won't convince me that some piece of sheet metal with some slides is worth $8000, when I can buy a comparable Craftsman for $1800 (up to $3600 now, I think).
Craftsman holds tools, Snap-On holds tools.
Craftsman slides easy, Snap-On slides easy.
Craftsman holds up, Snap-On holds up.
I see no reason to pay the extra $6200 for sheetmetal with a Snap-On emblem instead of Craftsman.
I think pretty much everything Snap-On is a rip off for the money, but it's sometimes the only thing that works, so rip-off or not, I need it.
Merkava_4
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That's a shame you feel that way. To me, Snap-on is one of the few products on the face of the Earth that I think is actually worth the money in comparison to other products and in relation to the value of the U.S. dollar. We obviously have a very staunch difference in opinion here.
nissan_crawler
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Oh, I think the Snap-On tools I have pay for themselves, but I also don't think they price increase over Craftsman or others represents the quality increase. I love my round head Snap-On ratchets, but the prices are steep, in my mind.
Abodyracer
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For the home mechanic CMan is fine. Check with your local store to see if they can order the Pro model they have on display. The model we have on display can't be ordered and we can sell our display. You might be able to get the display for a discount.
That's a shame you feel that way. To me, Snap-on is one of the few products on the face of the Earth that I think is actually worth the money in comparison to other products and in relation to the value of the U.S. dollar. We obviously have a very staunch difference in opinion here.
I do like Snap-on tools fit, finish and over all appearance, but for the most part of my life I used mostly Gray Canada and Proto. The price of Snap-on does NOT represent good value for the money when compared to other top brands. It is 80% name recognition, marketing and door to door service that drives the sales (IMO).
Heres an example of Snap-on quality. In 1983 I bought a 3/8" Snap-on flex head ratchet. Within a month the head would not stop flopping back and forth. It was a pain in the a**. I also bought a 12v test light which the top cap/cord keep popping off. I had to tape it in place. I also purchased a impact driver similar to PIT120, but chrome, and everytime you hit the head to pin would fall out of the side. I still own the tool but had to weld the pin to the body to keep it from moving. At the time these were some of the only SO that I owned and needless to say I did not purchase anymore for quite some time. In the same period I had no memorable problems with any of the other brands.
I think if the truth be told, the main reason Snap-on is preferred is peer pressure and not performance.
I would say if you can pick up Snap-on for 50% or less of the retail cost then by all means go for it, but don't always expect it to be better quality than the competition.
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Merkava_4
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Did you try to get the flex head ratchet and impact driver replaced under warranty? By the way you described the discrepancies, they sound like clear cut cases for replacement.
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I did think about replacement at the time but never did because I would have just got the same designed items back. They were not broken, just poorly designed. The 12v light cap was only a pressed fit and the spring pressure was to much to keep the cap restrained in the handle. Both the 12v light and the ratchet were stolen in 1990. I still have the impact driver but I don't think warranty would cover it because of the spot weld. I forgot to mention the plastic snap to keep the blow molded box shut, broke within a few years.
eschoendorff
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It is unfortunate that this thread has developed into another Snap ON vs. the-world-at-large thread.
Nissan Crawler's opinions are based on actual practical experience... and I agree with him that the Cman Pro stuff generally works as well as the Snap On counterpart (pro combo wrenches, for example). Merkava's opinions are not as firmly based in day-to-day practicality, but rather in emotional brand loyalty. I also agree with Dexter's statement that Snap On is preferred due to peer pressure. Go into any shop and just "people watch" for a while. You will see that all too often it is like high school all over again. Peer pressure is a huge motivator.... don't kid yourself (actually, you will find these same behaviors in just about any field of work).
All of the stated opinions have their place. Which side anyone takes is up to their beliefs, practical experience and wallet. For myself, I buy Snap On stuff - not because I need it, but simply because I feel that for the few items that I buy, Snap On is probably going to give me the best service and potential resale value should I ever decide to sell.
Nissan Crawler's opinions are based on actual practical experience... and I agree with him that the Cman Pro stuff generally works as well as the Snap On counterpart (pro combo wrenches, for example). Merkava's opinions are not as firmly based in day-to-day practicality, but rather in emotional brand loyalty. I also agree with Dexter's statement that Snap On is preferred due to peer pressure. Go into any shop and just "people watch" for a while. You will see that all too often it is like high school all over again. Peer pressure is a huge motivator.... don't kid yourself (actually, you will find these same behaviors in just about any field of work).
All of the stated opinions have their place. Which side anyone takes is up to their beliefs, practical experience and wallet. For myself, I buy Snap On stuff - not because I need it, but simply because I feel that for the few items that I buy, Snap On is probably going to give me the best service and potential resale value should I ever decide to sell.
Unfortunately this is the way most Snap-on related threads turn. We have so many members with strong views. Many are based on actual experience using the various tools on a day to day basis rather than marketing hype. I lean towards these opinions.
These threads are however no worse than the Craftsman vs the world editions.
eschoendorff
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Unfortunately this is the way most Snap-on related threads turn. We have so many members with strong views. Many are based on actual experience using the various tools on a day to day basis rather than marketing hype. I lean towards these opinions.
These threads are however no worse than the Craftsman vs the world editions.
I understand that. My beef is with the belief that Snap on is better just "becuase." Or "it feels better in my hand." Or any number of these sort of statements. Nissan crawler is one of the few on this board who actually uses his tools professionally - but when he makes a statement insinuating that Craftsman Professional tools are more than adequate for professional use, he gets a ton of **** from the Snap On flag wavers. Why? Peer pressure? ***** envy?
I admittedly buy Snap On tools and enjoy using them. But if all my tools were replaced with Craftsman Professional stuff - or even HF stuff, my life would still go on - successfully. You would be surprised how many HF tools are used by professionals in shops every day around here. Yeah, they're made in China. I get it. China is bad. But the reality is that these tools get the job done and they allow their users to afford other things - like health insurance and shoes for their kids. [/rant]
nissan_crawler
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Completely different story, that statement I will stand behind. If a guy wants Snap-On because they like it, or as you stated, fine by me.
I just hate the "Snap-On is god, all other tools are poo" drivel that gets spewed. I will take my 90% Craftsman tools and go side by side wrenching with any other mechanic with 90% Snap-On tools. At the end of the day, we'll both have done the same work, but I'll have done it with 1/3 the $ invested. Again, if they want Snap-On, by all means, get it. Just don't tell me it's the alpha and omega.
I find *most* of the Snap-On guys at work are the ones with the 26" 10,000 c.i. cabinet, and basic wrench/socket/plier sets, that have the same $$$ invested as I do, and they're coming to me with my 56" Craftsman Pro 40,000 c.i. box filled with tools to borrow them, because they don't have what they need.
My point? Get a Craftsman Pro box, save $5,000 and spend it on tools instead. A specialty tool with not quite perfect mirror finish chrome will still get the job done better than not having one at all, while the name on the emblem of your box doesn't mean squat at the end of the day.
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eschoendorff
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I find *most* of the Snap-On guys at work are the ones with the 26" 10,000 c.i. cabinet, and basic wrench/socket/plier sets, that have the same $$$ invested as I do, and they're coming to me with my 56" Craftsman Pro 40,000 c.i. box filled with tools to borrow them, because they don't have what they need.
My point? Get a Craftsman Pro box, save $5,000 and spend it on tools instead. A specialty tool with not quite perfect mirror finish chrome will still get the job done better than not having one at all.
This is some practical advice from a professional in the field. Some of us would do well to heed it. Even Old Car Guy - who arguably has one of teh coolest shops on the board is using Waterloo tool storage. Maybe there's something to this? You decide....
I hope your not placing me in that class? I worked professionally in the trade for 10 years with only a hand full of Snap-on tools. It was only when I joined this board that I realized that the tools I had earned a living with, were inferior to the US made Snap-on product. I had the misfortune to have thousands of dollars of tools stolen in 1990 and have since replaced them with both Gray and Snap-on, but lean toward the Gray product because it is made in Canada.
I fully admit to buying solely on brand power, but do not say they are better than any other, actually if you read my post , its the opposite. The tools I bought in the eighties were purchased from the truck and I can remember paying big bucks in 1983 for the flex ratchet. I wouldn't dream of paying the retail price today.
I never comment of Craftsman tools because I only own a few old US made wrenches and sockets and the stuff now available here is made overseas and not the same as what you have available.
I never think of resale value of tools. I buy them to use and would have a hard time selling them. Anyway after I finish with them, who would want them?
The 40" Gray box I now own is just is just perfect for myself. The 27" Beach box I used when in the trade had friction slides and served me well and still does 28 years later.
If I was the OP then I would buy the Craftsman box and wouldn't think of paying $5000 for a box to use at home much less at work.
eschoendorff
Well-known member
I would never think of putting you in that "class." In fact, I am not putting anyone into any class. Those who fit the mold know who they are. Their "class" is dictated by their opinions and buying habits.
krusty the clown
Member Emeritus
my $.02 here.
to the OP......i see no reason for a weekend warrior to spend the EXTRA money for a snap on, mac, or matco box. they are overpriced and the cman pro will do what you need. if you can find a "big three" box used for the same money in good condition, jump on it. for the profesional the difference between the boxes are worth SOME extra money, but not list price!
dex.....the problems you have descibed are CLEARLY not representative of the whole snap on line or the tools you have problems with. i have had the same ct4 test light since 81 and it has never fell apart. are there better test lights out there......probably not. are there lowewr cost test light that will do the job as well for less money.......absolutely. i too had a flex ratchet that the head was loose on, my dealer replaced it free of charge. it was a 731 series and he replaced it with a 936 with the screw. i can't say much about the impact driver since i don't have experience with the SO driver, i have a matco and an otc but it should have been and still should be warranteed.
to everyone else who has stayed with this rant this long...........SO tools themselves as far as i'm concerned are the best quality of all the brands out there but are definately overpriced. but compare them to mac and matco......both of them are normally higher in price and over the last 28 years i have had fewer SO tools warranteed than either of them. i know several pro techs who use nothing but CMAN and thats thier choice. personally i feel the wrenches are fine (even the raised panel one's hold up) but the ratchets are crude and the sockets are weak ( of course the new thin head ratchets are equal to matco's for obvious reasons). what it comes down to for me is, i do this for a living and it makes me feel good to use the best i can buy, not an ego trip. it is no different than someone buying a new car........some feel that the mercedes or bmw is worth the extra money and if they can afford it and it makes them feel good it's the right choice. to some an old pinto will do the same thing, get them from point a to point b, and for less money. and the same applies.....inconvenience.....having to spend a saturday fixing the old pinto or running to sears to get that socket replaced.
now i need another cup of coffee..........
to the OP......i see no reason for a weekend warrior to spend the EXTRA money for a snap on, mac, or matco box. they are overpriced and the cman pro will do what you need. if you can find a "big three" box used for the same money in good condition, jump on it. for the profesional the difference between the boxes are worth SOME extra money, but not list price!
dex.....the problems you have descibed are CLEARLY not representative of the whole snap on line or the tools you have problems with. i have had the same ct4 test light since 81 and it has never fell apart. are there better test lights out there......probably not. are there lowewr cost test light that will do the job as well for less money.......absolutely. i too had a flex ratchet that the head was loose on, my dealer replaced it free of charge. it was a 731 series and he replaced it with a 936 with the screw. i can't say much about the impact driver since i don't have experience with the SO driver, i have a matco and an otc but it should have been and still should be warranteed.
to everyone else who has stayed with this rant this long...........SO tools themselves as far as i'm concerned are the best quality of all the brands out there but are definately overpriced. but compare them to mac and matco......both of them are normally higher in price and over the last 28 years i have had fewer SO tools warranteed than either of them. i know several pro techs who use nothing but CMAN and thats thier choice. personally i feel the wrenches are fine (even the raised panel one's hold up) but the ratchets are crude and the sockets are weak ( of course the new thin head ratchets are equal to matco's for obvious reasons). what it comes down to for me is, i do this for a living and it makes me feel good to use the best i can buy, not an ego trip. it is no different than someone buying a new car........some feel that the mercedes or bmw is worth the extra money and if they can afford it and it makes them feel good it's the right choice. to some an old pinto will do the same thing, get them from point a to point b, and for less money. and the same applies.....inconvenience.....having to spend a saturday fixing the old pinto or running to sears to get that socket replaced.
now i need another cup of coffee..........
Deafautotech
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Amen.... i would buy snap on tools if i am use it everyday like ratchets, wrenches, and screwdrivers.... but i already had snap on ratchets, wrenches, screwdrivers as all used because i bought from members from this forum. it made me save money from spend lot of money on snap on truck... i am enjoying to wrenching all times... but it is not about my ego or proud of top brand tools... i just be proud of myself to look for used tools or even pawn store for cheap price on good brand tools... it is little extra work to find cheap price for good brand tools but last thing is save money.. sometime i was play game with my snap on guy to see if he will give me a deal which i can save money than pay retail price for tools that i am use everyday not like special tools..... but most time i just get from ebay or other tech who never use it and sold me for much cheap price...
Now i need another side job to make money....
Other reason why i had to bought KRL1203 for 450 dollars because it is little beat but all drawers are work good and little damaged on it but for 450 dollars!!! the new KRL1203 are 5,695 dollars!!! so i am saved myself from made debt or payment... last thing is i paid cash! so no problems...
if it use for home then go for craftsman or waterloo... i had few of craftsman boxes at home and i have no problems but i had no rooms for my snap on boxes at home so it had be at my work...
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To me, Snap-on is one of the few products on the face of the Earth that I think is actually worth the money in comparison to other products and in relation to the value of the U.S. dollar. We obviously have a very staunch difference in opinion here.
Snap-On is like any other premium brand. A big step up in price for a small step up in quality. You can make the same argument for any premium consumer good. It becomes more about emotion, not about value for the dollar.
Worsedog
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I turned wrenches for a living for 24 years before going to the electronic side of fixing stuff. When I first started working in a Dodge stealership I was turned off by the snotty Snap-on is god of all tools attitude of many of the technicians. When I started I had a $120 Craftsman top box and a $200 rollbox my parents gave me.
After getting a lot of flack about my "amature's" tools, one mechanics that had been there for 20 years showed me his box. Nobody was sure who made it, there wasn't a name on it anywhere but is was definately a lowline box full of Craftsman tools. He turned more hours every week than anyone else and had the highest csi rating.
Also the first time the Snap-on guy showed up he asked me when was I going to be a "real" mechanic and get rid those "hack" boxes. I **** you not, those were his exact words! When I asked what his boxes did that mine didn't he went on about prestige, name, etc. I repeated my question....he said a "real" mechanic would understand.
Since that time the only Snap-on tools I have purchased were at an extreme discount or they were something nobody else made.
My "hack" boxes lasted 10 years until the race trailer they were in got run over by a tractor trailer.
If you want buy prestige go for it, but in the end its a just a tool. If it does the job and doesn't damage the item being repaired then it was the right one for the job!
After getting a lot of flack about my "amature's" tools, one mechanics that had been there for 20 years showed me his box. Nobody was sure who made it, there wasn't a name on it anywhere but is was definately a lowline box full of Craftsman tools. He turned more hours every week than anyone else and had the highest csi rating.
Also the first time the Snap-on guy showed up he asked me when was I going to be a "real" mechanic and get rid those "hack" boxes. I **** you not, those were his exact words! When I asked what his boxes did that mine didn't he went on about prestige, name, etc. I repeated my question....he said a "real" mechanic would understand.
Since that time the only Snap-on tools I have purchased were at an extreme discount or they were something nobody else made.
My "hack" boxes lasted 10 years until the race trailer they were in got run over by a tractor trailer.
If you want buy prestige go for it, but in the end its a just a tool. If it does the job and doesn't damage the item being repaired then it was the right one for the job!
I certainly don't feel Snap-on quality is represented by the items I described, but besides a for set of white handled screwdrivers, these were the only Snap-on tools I owned at the time and represented a fairly large investment for my wage. I point these issues out merely to show that Snap-on is not best thing since sliced bread and the OP should not discount the lesser priced Craftsman box over the SO box just because of the name. If you were a young mechanic and you had 75% of the tools you purchased have a problem then it would sure leave an impression. I now own many more SO tools and have had no issues (mainly socketry and wrenches). These were purchased well into the late 90's and early 2000's.
Uncle Buck
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Merkave, since I have had nothing but poor experiences with SO warranty this would seem the fitting place to share my "Flex Head Story". My story starts with me purchasing a 1/2" flex head ratchet new from the SO distribution center nearest me in the mid 1990s. The distribution center was then about 30 minutes drive from my house and you could buy from a walk in customer counter. (they have since closed this location and left the area)
Less than 3-4 years later I have had to move several hours drive away and since I do not wrench for a living I had no contact with a local SO rep. During this time the head of the flex head cracks, literally the body of the head cracked! The ratchet still looked very new with little to no scratches to be found on it, I never did figure out how or why it cracked in this way I just remember discovering the damage. I know it was not cheatered or abused, nor was in loaned to someone else so I have no idea how it became damaged.
The next time I went home I gave my dad the ratchet and asked him to return it for exchange at the distribution center where I bought it for exchange, which he did. When they gave him the replacement they charged him $5.00 for exchanging their F-d up ratchet! Dad shared that with me some time later when he gave me the ratchet, oh yea, I could go on for hours with my stellar warranty service stories regarding SO!
At least for me, I have only had good luck with Sears on stuff like this!
I guess my ratchet met the "Clear cut need of replacement" but since we have him here we had best screw him out of $5.00 for our great warranty service! I never forget when people screw me like that, and I do not think most other people would either!
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krusty the clown
Member Emeritus
damn buck.......it's like they have it out for you. the only time i ever had a warranty issue was with cornwell.
I have been in the auto body trade for over 30 years. I bought my box that long ago from a retiring mechanic who had it for at least 30 more years. Yup, it is over 60 years old and still does what it is made for, hold the tools I make my living with. I have easy access to Sears so the majority of my basic tools are Craftsman. I also have some Snap On and Matco and Mac tools. I hired a guy a long time ago who had the best Snap On boxes full of Snap On tools, but he wasn't worth beans as a technician, nice fella though. I think the difference between Snap On and Craftsman is one is the Chevy and the other is a Caddy, I'm a Chevy kinda guy. Buy the best you can afford, not the most expensive, imho.
GeorgiaHybrid
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Talk about bringing a thread back from the dead.... Makes me realize how many good members used to be on here that are gone now......
I miss a lot of them....
I miss a lot of them....
crewchief888
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having never seen, touched or felt a CM pro box, i cant and wont comment on it's quality.
for the most part in the last 25+ years ive been wrenching, ive bought SO boxes, and been happy with my purchases. my "working" tools are all from the BIG 3, mainly because of to the door service.
i have a CM top box in my service truck, severley overloaded and abused , it's falling apart at the seams, but i also didnt pay top $$ for it 12 years ago.
i have CM, remline, lyons, and SO boxes at home, mostly filled with CM tools, and leftovers from my work boxes.
would i buy another new SO box? probably not
would i buy another used SO box? possibly, if the price was right.
if i had to have all my tools in one place, i'd sure look for another set of KR550/555's to match the set i already have.
if i needed new storage @ home, i'd probably look at CM pro, or a used SO
for the most part in the last 25+ years ive been wrenching, ive bought SO boxes, and been happy with my purchases. my "working" tools are all from the BIG 3, mainly because of to the door service.
i have a CM top box in my service truck, severley overloaded and abused , it's falling apart at the seams, but i also didnt pay top $$ for it 12 years ago.
i have CM, remline, lyons, and SO boxes at home, mostly filled with CM tools, and leftovers from my work boxes.
would i buy another new SO box? probably not
would i buy another used SO box? possibly, if the price was right.
if i had to have all my tools in one place, i'd sure look for another set of KR550/555's to match the set i already have.
if i needed new storage @ home, i'd probably look at CM pro, or a used SO