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My 2 post lift-TP11KAC-D

dennis111

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Over the winter I installed the ultimate home garage accessory--a full sized lift:

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When I first decided that I wanted one, I made a list of what I wanted in a lift with general vehicle maintenance being the top priority. I also wanted a lift that would allow me to swap the transmission in and out almost effortlessly any time I wanted-which is common since I race this car weekly at the local strip. I also needed one to rotate tires and perform general maintenance on all my other vehicles, which vary quite a bit in length and width. With all this in mind, the 2 post lift was the most accommodating choice for my needs.

After shopping around for a couple of months, I purchased a TP11KAC-D asymmetrical 2 post lift from Best Buy Automotive Equipment in CA. The TP11KAC-D is rated at 11,000lbs lift capacity-more than enough to lift any of my projects including my 2500HD. It has large 1 pc continuous columns and being a "clear floor lift", it doesn't have a trough on the floor for the hoses and cables. This as also one of my major priorities and also lead to much more work than the other lift types would have required.

Installing the lift wasn't as simple as just ordering one and setting it up as my garage ceiling is only 9' 3" high and these lifts are normally 12' or more. Rather than build an all new stall or raise the roof, I decided to make one of the existing bays lift friendly. Me being 6'2", I needed the the Mustang to be lifted as high as possible. Needless to say I had some serious work to do.

First I needed to modify my trusses in the center to allow the Mustang's roof to protrude above the ceiling. I bought some 2x4" and 2x6" Southern White Pine from the local truss shop, plus several sheets of 3/4" plywood and then went to work on the old fink trusses. I started with an engineered drawing that I found here and then modified it to my needs:

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I used 3 1/2" 16d nails, clenching the ends.

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I created an 8' 3" x 10' x 34" deep boxed area above the old ceiling, giving me 145.5" to work with.

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(There is still more trim work to be done.)

Next up I checked the depth of the concrete floor to see if it was thick enough to install the necessary concrete anchors. I did this by drilling several holes all the way through the concrete and then sliding a coat hanger with a hook into it. I found that the LH side was 6" thick which was more than adequate considering the minimum requirement was 4 1/2". My excitement was short lived when I found that the RH side of the bay was only 3 1/2" deep. Not wanting to break up the whole slab and redo the floor, I decided to cut out a 4' x 6' section and go deeper. For this I rented a concrete wet saw for a couple of hours and again went to work:

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The hole was undercut under the existing slab and was 14" deep. Then I put 4" of limestone in the hole, tamping it down:

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Note how the concrete tapered down to as little as 3" on the RH side of the above photo.

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Note that I left larger holes in the center of the rebar so that I wouldn't risk the chance of drilling into it when later setting the studs.

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That is a full cubic yard of concrete, 10" thick.

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The lift arrived at the factory that I work at only 1 week after I ordered it and and I carted it home on a trailer:

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Over 10" of adapters where included.

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The anchors were included too:

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The engine hoist allowed me to remove the columns from the trailer and was also used later when standing the columns upright.

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Although the instruction were poor at best, assembly was easy thanks to the help of a couple of assembly videos and lots of photos found on the internet.

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All the pulleys are steel, not cast.

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Once the individual columns were assembled, I raised them with some help:

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The narrowness and shortness of the bay required that I place columns where other trusses were so I modified the trusses and added some 1/4" thick brackets to help support them:

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The anchor holes were drilled all the way through the concrete on both sides of the lift using the Hilti with a 12" long bit that I borrowed from work.

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Since the RH concrete was thicker, I purchased 7" long 3/4" anchors just for this side for added safety.

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Before I installed the power unit shown, I added a little over 3 gallons of AW32 light weight hydraulic oil to the reservoir. It was much easier to do it in advance than it would have been to hold a 5 gallon can high up in the air.

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The cross brace supports the cables and the hydraulic lines.

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Fully raised on the short adapters, the Mustang's roof goes above the garage ceiling about 6-7":

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Using taller extensions would raise it even more, but then it would be harder to work on the car as it would then be too high.

Here's my old GMC:

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Although it is not possible to raise the GMC fully due to the ceiling height, I can raise it over 4' off the floor. This is the perfect height for a creeper chair, with the convenience of being able to sit and work on anywhere under the truck.

The transmission jack shown is a 2 stage model with a working range of 31" to 74". That easily covers the classic vehicles that I own.

So far I like the lift and especially its asymmetrical arms which allow me to open the doors without hitting the upright columns.
 
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dennis111

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I should note that although the TP11KAC-D has columns that are 141.5" tall, the top bracket where the cylinder/cable pulley mount plus an air fitting needed at the top of the cylinder push the height closer to 144.5". Since the air fittings are NPT, it would be possible to use a street 90 to angle the air fitting to the side. This would save about 1/2" allowing the lift to fit in a 144" tall area.
 

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did you have an engineer redesign your truss system? i need to do that. i have a huge area of useless space above my garage and always wanted to change my truss system to make more room. where can i get info on how to do that?
 

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Dennis, are the hydraulic cylinders static at the top so the rams are pulling up to lift? If that is the way the cylinders work then doesn't that leave the center rams exposed when the lift is left in the down position?
 

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I am very impressed with the common sense solutions you came up with to solve the problems you encountered. I installed a Challenger two post lift in my garage, and I had to come up with some creative engineering to get it to fit. I was lucky to have a son-in-law who is a concrete contractor pour the floor like it was an interstate highway with 7 to 8 inch thick concrete. The Challenger also has a wider and longer base to spread the load across the floor. Four years later and NO cracks. I give you a "10" for a job well done in your garage.
 
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did you have an engineer redesign your truss system? i need to do that. i have a huge area of useless space above my garage and always wanted to change my truss system to make more room. where can i get info on how to do that?

If you are unsure about what you are doing, consult with a structural engineer. Pre-engineered trusses maybe the way you want to go for a large area. If you do a google search and look at the images of what others have done, you might get some ideas. Above all, make sure that it is safe when you are done. Of course doing this is all done at your own risk.

Out here in the sticks we still have a very liberal construction policy for non-dwellings. Only rules concern property setbacks, utility requirements, and having a very basic drawing of what you want to accomplish. I did not use the services of a licensed engineer, only the above drawing that was found on this site and was provided by an engineer. I also consulted with mechanical engineers at my work before beginning the project. I made every effort possible to incorporate the structural design features of that drawing and have many hours in the rebuild to do my best to ensure safety.
 
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Dennis, are the hydraulic cylinders static at the top so the rams are pulling up to lift? If that is the way the cylinders work then doesn't that leave the center rams exposed when the lift is left in the down position?

Yes, the top of the rams are static. When the lift is down, the cylinders are extended and the center of the ram would be exposed. Since much of the ram is in the carriage and the carriage is nearly 4 foot tall, about 2' is exposed in the downward position.
 
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dennis111

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Nice work on that retrofit. Lots of creative problem solving.

I am very impressed with the common sense solutions you came up with to solve the problems you encountered. I give you a "10" for a job well done in your garage.

Thank You. :beer:

It was quite an exercise in problem solving and I devoted lots of time to the project. Lots of little things not shown also needed done such as moving the folding ladder 2 over 2 feet, moving the lighting out of the way, and removing a permanent work bench so that I had a full 26' of length for my vehicles.
 
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Since the weather has been getting warmer here in the northeast, having the "copula" opened to the attic has made the garage warmer too. This weekend I took care of that problem. I bought 5 sheets of OSB and 133sq feet of insulation and went to town on it Saturday morning.

How the copula looked the last couple of months:

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As of Saturday evening:

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And finally all sealed up and rewired this afternoon:

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I used a mixture of the old OSB and the new. Maybe I'll be able to paint it over the holiday weekend and maybe reinstall the stained trim.

It's amazing how much cooler it was working in the same area today compared to yesterday when there was no insulation or sidewalls. Even though the outside temps were higher, the walls remained quite cool to the touch.

Now I'll be able to work on the race car in air conditioned comfort again! :beer:
 
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As hoped, I was able to finish off the "copula" and ceiling over the weekend. The temps in the northeast were practically unbearable out so an inside job was welcomed. Lowes did an excellent job of photo matching the 10 year old paint so all I needed to do was primer and then paint the affected areas. After the paint dried I reinstalled much of the old stained trim:

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Although I could have done without the exposed outlet in the following photo, it allows me to plug in an extension light if and when I remove the side panel to access the trusses at the end of the garage:

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She's styl'in now:

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The only thing left to do is to paint the 4 truss support brackets that I added to the lift columns.
 
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dennis111

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3 years later I still use and love my lift. The only issue has been a burned out starter capacitor, but that was caused by me tapping the lift button repeatedly trying to get the proper height for some reason. When the label on the motor says to wait 2 seconds between pushes, it means it. LOL

The only thing I don't like about the lift is that the arms hang pretty low and occasionally hit my head on them (I am over 6' tall.) Still I have to remember that I chose this lift for capacity and ceiling clearance and it has served me well. Now that I own a lift, I really don't know what I would do without it.
 

RalphHale

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Maybe you can help me. I have a TP11KAC-D as well and my seals are shot.
I bought the seal kit from tuxedo and have everything apart. There doesn't appear to be any instructions or video about replacing the seals.What I'm not sure of and would like some input is: Which direction does the taper face on the blue and black seals?
I'm 99% sure that the taper face each other on the plunger.
 

sreeb

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I have a close cousin, TP11KC-DX but haven't had any problems so I can't help.

Did you see any cause of the failure? Did both sides fail?
 
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