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got a gloss red hf 13 drawer roll away today

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Everything everyone has said about this box has been spot on. You really can't buy half the box for twice as much. This thing is awesome. There really doesn't seem to be anything else out there in its category that is as well made. It wasn't as heavy as I thoughts it was going to be though. Must be because I'm corn fed, but I unloaded it from my raised truck myself. Getting it off the pallet was a little tricky because I didn't want to dump it and damage it in drive way. I wheeled it into the garage finally and began to load it with my tools. I have found though that for me the top drawer is a little too deep and the middle drawers are a little too shallow but the bottom drawers are just right. Kinda would have liked to see all the drawers be full width but I can see that having them seperated increases the box's weight capacity. I ended up putting my sockets and drive tools in the top drawer because the larger 3/4" drive sockets were too large to stand in the middle drawers. I really wanted to use the top for screwdrivers, pliers and my more commonly used tools but they'll go the next set of drawers down. Followed by my wrenches, then my hammers, punches, files, drill bits etc. Its going to take a while getting used to this new layout and no longer having a chest so now i'll have to bend my 6' 2" *** over to find a tool in a bottom drawer but I think I like this box over my older cman top and bottom combo. Any thoughts on how I should organize this new box?
 
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Mickey O said:
Sure you can, I've bought 10 times the box for less then half the cost of one of those, several times.
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Absolutely not. These are amazing boxes and the price can't be beat for the quality. Only way you can find comparable is to buy an extremely used beat up old box or have a friend/family member that is willing to take a loss to sell you a box for cheap.

Made in America doesn't make something better automatically. Period!

Great buy and you'll enjoy the box for years to come. P.S. might want to upgrade the liners on it. I just did and it makes a world of difference.
 
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Absolutely not. These are amazing boxes and the price can't be beat for the quality. Only way you can find comparable is to buy an extremely used beat up old box or have a friend/family member that is willing to take a loss to sell you a box for cheap.

Made in America doesn't make something better automatically. Period!

Great buy and you'll enjoy the box for years to come. P.S. might want to upgrade the liners on it. I just did and it makes a world of difference.
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My mistake, I guess those near mint Lita boxes I bought for less than half the price are just junk, I'll throw them out and go get a HF box then.
 
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way to rain on a guys parade.
I have the same box with the top chest in the crinkle finish. Very happy with it. It stays put in one spot in my home garage so I expect it to last a very long time. I ended up putting all my long (up to 1 1/2 ) & stubby wrenches in the top drawer of the lower box and all of my sockets with black HF socket trays in the top portion of the upper box.
 
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Do you know anyone that has been laid off in the last few years?
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Yup

Do I know anyone in manufacturing? Nope

There are many other industries besides this and if we are to expensive here to be a competitive manufacturer, then its time for those in the field to find a new career path possibly. I don't see any slowdown or stop to moving our manufacturing overseas, so unfortunately we will have to adapt (or buy really expensive American merchandise).
 
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Also I love usa made stuff as much as anyone but please dont turn this into a hate HF/china ***** fest. This thread could be a great way to share thoughts and ideas on organizing the 13 drawer cabinet.
 
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My mistake, I guess those near mint Lita boxes I bought for less than half the price are just junk, I'll throw them out and go get a HF box then.
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Not saying that at all. I'm sure they are great boxes and even better than HF boxes. But if you got it for around the price of the HF box, then you got a one in a million deal on it.
 
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I see you are back to your usual trolling. How are your Chinese shoes holding up?
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Wearing a pair of USA made sneakers as we speak. Not exactly sure what trolling is but if it's misleading I would say this is misleading:


"You really can't buy half the box for twice as much."


Because I know it's not true and I would want someone to read that and not know that you can in fact get a better toolbox for less. For twice the money you can get a real nice box.
 
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bcradio said:
Absolutely not. These are amazing boxes and the price can't be beat for the quality. Only way you can find comparable is to buy an extremely used beat up old box or have a friend/family member that is willing to take a loss to sell you a box for cheap.

Made in America doesn't make something better automatically. Period!
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Amazing boxes? We must have different definitions of the word. For the money, they're a good deal. But I'll take an '80s Snap On box with friction slides over a brand new HF will ball bearings any day of the week. ;)

And I'd hardly be extolling Chinese manufacturing capabilities. :scared:
 
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Wearing a pair of USA made sneakers as we speak. Not exactly sure what trolling is but if it's misleading I would say this is misleading:


"You really can't buy half the box for twice as much."


Because I know it's not true and I would want someone to read that and not know that you can in fact get a better toolbox for less. For twice the money you can get a real nice box.
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Bull ****. You can't (and didn't) buy a new Lista for the price of a new HF box. Could you have bought a used one at auction or liquidation for the price of a new HF? Possibly but even that would be rare. So your whole statement relies upon comparing apples to oranges. There is lying and lying and it is clear your statement is a lie. Nice job making yourself look like a douche.
 
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Congrats on the purchase. I'm not a big fan of the colors HF paints their boxes, but its the only shortfall. I really wish they sold them in black for the same price.

The only boxes that are comparable are Masterforce boxes from Menards. Unfortunately they too are not a great color...
 
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Bull ****. You can't (and didn't) buy a new Lista for the price of a new HF box. Could you have bought a used one at auction or liquidation for the price of a new HF? Possibly but even that would be rare. So your whole statement relies upon comparing apples to oranges. There is lying and lying and it is clear your statement is a lie. Nice job making yourself look like a douche.
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:+1:

Like I said above, either A: he got a really beat up one or B: someone took a loss selling it to him (used also of course).
 
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Bull ****. You can't (and didn't) buy a new Lista for the price of a new HF box. Could you have bought a used one at auction or liquidation for the price of a new HF? Possibly but even that would be rare. So your whole statement relies upon comparing apples to oranges. There is lying and lying and it is clear your statement is a lie. Nice job making yourself look like a douche.
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You should read and comprehend what I wrote before responding, never said I bought a new Lista bix. I however did buy 2 Lista boxes in mint condition for far less than the HF box, here's a link from back when I bought them.

http://garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=68253&highlight=lista
 
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Lookin4'67Galaxieconv said:
How did he lie? :headscrat

He bought far better boxes for less than the OP paid for his new HF box.
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He is comparing a used item bought at liquidation not in new condition (look at his pics) at a very unusual price to something that comes new in the box at 100s of stores across America pretty much any day of the week. Apples to oranges and lying by omission.
 
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You should read and comprehend what I wrote before responding, never said I bought a new Lista bix. I however did buy 2 Lista boxes in mint condition for far less than the HF box, here's a link from back when I bought them.

http://garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=68253&highlight=lista
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I read your original post and stand with everyone else who commented; it is misleading at best. The two words "Several times." in your original post make it sound like you could just head down to Grainger and purchase a new box any time you want. We all know that is Bull ****. Yes, it's possible to score a deal on good used tools but they tend to be few and far between. Go troll somewhere else.

To the OP, congrats on your new box, I wish I had the room for one! I'm looking at replacing one of my C-man chests with the 26" Red HF box combo. http://www.harborfreight.com/hand-tools/tool-storage/26-8-drawer-roller-cabinet-with-8-drawer-top-chest-67831.html There's a coupon for $289 in the HF coupon thread that's good till April.
 
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He is comparing a used item bought at liquidation not in new condition (look at his pics) at a very unusual price to something that comes new in the box at 100s of stores across America pretty much any day of the week. Apples to oranges and lying by omission.
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He never said he bought them directly from Lista, or that someone could find that deal any time they pleased.

The question was whether someone could find something better than the HF box for less money and he did. See quote below:

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Not saying that at all. I'm sure they are great boxes and even better than HF boxes. But if you got it for around the price of the HF box, then you got a one in a million deal on it.
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You can argue all you want about how likely it is to find a deal like that. And like I said earlier, the HF boxes are a good value for the money, but there are other values out there as well.

I did see the pics, they look good to me! :D
 
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Mickey O said:
You should read and comprehend what I wrote before responding, never said I bought a new Lista bix. I however did buy 2 Lista boxes in mint condition for far less than the HF box, here's a link from back when I bought them.

http://garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=68253&highlight=lista
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Just my opinion but you are way out of line here. You can't fairly compare a standard stocked item found in a local store to a lucky find on the used market. His comment about these boxes being a great value holds true. If you want to dispute it, show us a brand new, currently available tool box in the same size range that's either made better or equal well but at a regularly lower price?

Deals (or steals) on the used market would only come close to counting if it was an item the shows up regularly at that price. Your $150 lista find is not the norm in any way shape or form, especially for people outside of large metro areas like Chicago.

I have to say, I've only been here for a short amount of time so far but I'm already getting sick of this US vs Asian BS. I'll be the first one to admit I like quality tools and generally only buy American but I recognize that not all Asian made products are **** and that a lot of American made products are **** or at least over priced. Either way, sometimes the less expensive, lower quality option is the more reasonable choice.

Most importantly however isit is just that... a choice. Regardless of yours or my personal beliefs, we need to quit blasting, trolling or otherwise negatively attacking each other simply because we don't agree with someone elses tool choice. Their money, their shop, their choice.
 
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$175 for a gently use tool box similar to the HF one would be a you **** deal. I sold my same HF box on CL in a matter of hours for $300. I bought it used a year prior for $275.
 
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Lookin4'67Galaxieconv said:
He never said he bought them directly from Lista, or that someone could find that deal any time they pleased.
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And I bought a 1 year old Corvette from a women who just found out her husband was cheating on her. That has no impact on the value of a new Toyota on sale. Mickey purposefully lied by omission to put down HF and people who buy items there. It is his standard MO and that of many from GG. It makes them feel better about spending obscene amounts of money on tool truck type tools.
 
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Mickey O said:
You should read and comprehend what I wrote before responding, never said I bought a new Lista bix. I however did buy 2 Lista boxes in mint condition for far less than the HF box, here's a link from back when I bought them.

http://garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=68253&highlight=lista
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Maybe YOU should read and comprehend my post before responding. The key word here is COMPARABLE. Are your lita boxes comparable? No. They are obviously higher end. You obviously didn't just walk into a store and put the money on a counter. Are these boxes snap on or mac? Hell no. They are COMPARABLE to kobalt, craftsman, husky, etc. And yes, they are twice the box those are at half the price. I'm sure there are those rare occasions where you steal something for next to nothing but isn't the basis for my comparison. Yes, you can buy more for less if you shop used but that isnt the basis for the comparison either. I know a guy who buys unpaid storage units and got a snap on rollaway full of snap on tools that was hidden behind a hutch for a 250 dollar bid. Guess I got screwed because he found ten times the box for a hundred less than I paid for mine, huh? I'll tell you what, you be happy with what you have and I'll be happy with what I have.
 
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Kind of ironic when it's ok for someone to make claims, without proof, that are clearly false, but someone that makes a staement and backs it up with facts is called a liar. You HF lovers need to accept the fact that when you buy merchandice based solely on price, sometimes it will turn around and bite you on the ***.
 
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mtwaterguy said:
Kind of ironic when it's ok for someone to make claims, without proof, that are clearly false, but someone that makes a staement and backs it up with facts is called a liar. You HF lovers need to accept the fact that when you buy merchandice based solely on price, sometimes it will turn around and bite you on the ***.
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I wonder why it is you tool truck kool-aid drinkers find it necessary to **** on HF threads when HF fans don't do it to tool truck threads. Shows your true personalities. COUGHdouchebagsCOUGH.
 
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I wonder why it is you tool truck kool-aid drinkers find it necessary to **** on HF threads when HF fans don't do it to tool truck threads. Shows your true personalities. COUGHdouchebagsCOUGH.
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It's the other way around, just like usual. The op makes a false statement, he's shown that he's wrong, and then the HF's attack, switching the arguement from the original point to try and cover their butts.
 
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