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I notice HD is now carrying a line of milwaukee hand tools as well. They sit right next to dewalt hand tools. And coo is taiwan. They look pretty nice with the milwaukee red and white handles. So you now have channel lock, husky, dewalt and milwaukee to choose form now for certain pliers and cutters.
 
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If you were to buy a John Deere mower or a Lincoln Mig welder at Home Depot, the authorized Deere and Lincoln dealers will not handle warranty work on either product. they claim that a lot of the name brand products sold at HD and Lowe's aren't necessarily the same as those sold in dealer stores. Makes me wonder if the Milwaukee tools are the same as those sold elsewhere or built to HD's price point.
 

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Well here in NE Ohio, HD no longer carry J Deere. You have to go to the BIG authorized dealers.
 
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Just bought a pair of Channellock lineman's pliers at Wal-Mart. Made in Meadville, PA. Not only from the USA, but from my very own state! It was a nice surprise, and I bought them even though I hadn't planned on it and couldn't afford it! Blinded by patriotism, I suppose! :D
 

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If you were to buy a John Deere mower or a Lincoln Mig welder at Home Depot, the authorized Deere and Lincoln dealers will not handle warranty work on either product. they claim that a lot of the name brand products sold at HD and Lowe's aren't necessarily the same as those sold in dealer stores. Makes me wonder if the Milwaukee tools are the same as those sold elsewhere or built to HD's price point.

Whoa! Not the case on JD tractors. All 100-series models come off the same production line, some go to HD, some to Lowe's, and some to the dealer at random. Dealer will support all of them regardless of where sold.

OK, back to the thread... :D
 

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Is it just me, or does there seem to be fewer Ridgid products at HD lately? I'm also surprised they don't handle Ridgid hand tools.
 

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I've got the Milwaukee utility knife. Purchased from McFeeley's. I actually really like it. Flips open with one hand, has a gut hook when closed, and has nice ergonomics IMO. I actually just ordered a second one from Amazon.

Personally I'm really glad to see HD expanding on Milwaukee. Used to be the only 1/4" QC magnetic hex nut drivers they carried were DeWalt, now they have Milwaukee next to them.
 

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If you were to buy a John Deere mower or a Lincoln Mig welder at Home Depot, the authorized Deere and Lincoln dealers will not handle warranty work on either product. they claim that a lot of the name brand products sold at HD and Lowe's aren't necessarily the same as those sold in dealer stores. Makes me wonder if the Milwaukee tools are the same as those sold elsewhere or built to HD's price point.


Even though the model of Lincoln welder may be specific to HD, you might want to look at the paperwork that came with the unit and discover that your warranty is from Lincoln, not HD. Go to the Lincoln web site and you will be delighted to find full support, parts and manuals for the HD specific models. If you have had trouble with repairs by an authorized dealer, you might just have been dealing with someone who's profits have been impacted by similar units being sold at big box stores. Just because a model of anything is specific to HD (and most name brand stuff you find at HD has been built to their specs and price point) doesn't mean the manufacturer won't stand behind it.
 

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If you have had trouble with repairs by an authorized dealer, you might just have been dealing with someone who's profits have been impacted by similar units being sold at big box stores. Just because a model of anything is specific to HD (and most name brand stuff you find at HD has been built to their specs and price point) doesn't mean the manufacturer won't stand behind it.

True story. My buddy bought a small Hobart wire feed thru Northern. Local Hobart dealer told him they won't cover it under warranty. He called Hobart directly, they told him not true. They helped him diagnose it over the phone and sent him parts directly.
 

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Just bought a pair of Channellock lineman's pliers at Wal-Mart. Made in Meadville, PA. Not only from the USA, but from my very own state! It was a nice surprise, and I bought them even though I hadn't planned on it and couldn't afford it! Blinded by patriotism, I suppose! :D

Knipex is better. :D Particularly in the smaller sizes, but most of mine are Channellock...
 

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I love milwaukee's 'fastback' folding utility knife, mine is still workin great after being run over by a skid steer
 

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I seen a Milwaukee screwdriver set at my local industrial supply store, and they looked pretty good and well built. They were $54, and the COO was Taiwan.
 

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If you were to buy a John Deere mower or a Lincoln Mig welder at Home Depot, the authorized Deere and Lincoln dealers will not handle warranty work on either product. they claim that a lot of the name brand products sold at HD and Lowe's aren't necessarily the same as those sold in dealer stores. Makes me wonder if the Milwaukee tools are the same as those sold elsewhere or built to HD's price point.

Makes me wonder if the authorized dealers woudl just rather you buy from them :thumbup:
 

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Makes me wonder if the authorized dealers woudl just rather you buy from them :thumbup:

When I bought my Deere from the JD dealer, I was told, that the warranty work needs to go through HD first. You return it to HD and they will pick it up and work on it.

Not only will you have to deliver it to HD, you'll also pay a pick up fee for JD to come and get it and return it to HD. If you buy from the JD dealer, they will pick it up and deliver it free of charge. What I was told back in '03.
 

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I know the Hitatchi brad nailers from the big box stores are not made in Japan.
There is a huge difference in quality.
 

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I recently got 3 Milwaukee hand tools.
6-in-1 tool
Dykes
Fastback knife

What do I think of them???????
The knife is nice and flicks open and closed easily. I like it.
Both pliers have nice handles, are balanced well, and open & close smoothly. They feel sturdy.
However, The 6-in1 doesen't strip well at all and if you grip something low down in the jaws you will dull the cutting edges of the stripping holes that don't work in the first place.
The dykes cut well and I personally love the angle head dykes. However, there in a V cut out of the tip of the cutting edges. If you want to just nip at something small with the very tip you can't.
I will be sticking with my tried and true Klien D2000-48 for most jobs.
Maybe one day I'll drink the Knipex Kool-Aid and try one of their pairs out.

Overall, I will not be buying any more Milwaukee brand hand tools.

EDIT- The reason I bought these in the first place is that I am a diehard Milwaukee power tool man. Other than a sweet Bosch jigsaw all my power tools are Milwuakee of which I have many.

I will still buy their power tools. I thought they were just whoreing their name out when they started their non-power tool line and they proved it to me.
I paid my money to the ***** once but will not do it again.
 
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Thanks for the info

I recently got 3 Milwaukee hand tools.
6-in-1 tool
Dykes
Fastback knife

What do I think of them???????
The knife is nice and flicks open and closed easily. I like it.
Both pliers have nice handles, are balanced well, and open & close smoothly. They feel sturdy.
However, The 6-in1 doesen't strip well at all and if you grip something low down in the jaws you will dull the cutting edges of the stripping holes that don't work in the first place.
The dykes cut well and I personally love the angle head dykes. However, there in a V cut out of the tip of the cutting edges. If you want to just nip at something small with the very tip you can't.
I will be sticking with my tried and true Klien D2000-48 for most jobs.
Maybe one day I'll drink the Knipex Kool-Aid and try one of their pairs out.

Overall, I will not be buying any more Milwaukee brand hand tools.
 

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What you need to look at is if name brand products have a HD specific part number. In those cases, there may have been slight design changes to reduce costs. Sheet metal might be slightly thinner or bearings may be a slighly lower grade to cut costs. Sometimes the changes may simply be cosmetic or packaging. I was told by my local Eccho dealer that primarily sells to and repairs for professional landscapers that the HD Eccho trimers only have 1 piston rings while the ones they sell have 3. Does it really matter if you are a DIYer only using it once a week. Probably not. Does it make a difference if you are a pro running it 12 hrs a day....yup. I guess the bottom line is sometimes you get the exact same product as the pro-stores and sometimes you do not. You just have to really know the product you are buying.
 
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Are Knipex American made?

It is a germany brand, made in germany. Other that are just as good from germany are NWS and Wiha. Their version of the tongue and groove vs the US design ones are better. The Knipnex cobra or nws one works better then the channel lock. I have the wiha version and the channellock. When I need clamp down on a bolt or something, the german design holds better.

The knipex needle nose is a way more precision tool then some of the US brand.
 

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If you were to buy a John Deere mower or a Lincoln Mig welder at Home Depot, the authorized Deere and Lincoln dealers will not handle warranty work on either product. they claim that a lot of the name brand products sold at HD and Lowe's aren't necessarily the same as those sold in dealer stores. Makes me wonder if the Milwaukee tools are the same as those sold elsewhere or built to HD's price point.

The problem is, you can't trust "Brand Names" anymore. All the big tool companies including Snap-On, John Deer, Milwaukee, etc. have all realized that there is money to be made on their name alone and if they want to stay financially viable, they will have to cash in on that fact.

Add that to companies like HD with a large buying power who will go to these companies and offer to buy 10k or 100K or more of one specific product with just one catch. They need the product at a lower price point. Now depending on how far off they are and how much product HD is willing to buy, the tool company be able to just lower their price a little give HD a deal but sometimes that divide is too great.

In the case of John Deer, HD goes to them and says we want to start carrying your lawn tractors your prices are too high for our target buyers, what can you do? JD says there is no way we can make our normal line of tractors for that low but what we can do is make a new model that will look like our other models and even have some of the same features and components but we will use a cheaper engine and transmission to bring the price down to your level. HD says great, as long we get to sell "JD" lawn tractors at the price point we want to hit then do whatever you have to. Most of our shoppers won't know the difference anyway.

Lets face it, the average shopper doesn't do much research and probably doesn't really need a professional quality grade tool either. Those people just know that JD is "the good stuff" so they go to HD and see a JD with a 6.5HP motor and 50" cutting deck for $1200. Then go to the local JD dealer and see a 6.5HP model w/ a 50" cutting deck for $1600 and assume they are the same model and that HD just has a better price on it because of their buying power. The average buyer will jump on the HD model and still brag to their friends about buying a "deer" but in reality they just bought a lower quality mower that happens to be green and have the John Deer name plate.

JD dealers won't touch these models. Partly because they feel betrayed by JD for even making these cheaper model. They know they are loosing potential sales to HD and that JD is helping the big warehouse stores and screwing the small local dealers. The other reason is they simply don't stock the parts for these cheaper models.

Now a popular misconception is that because HD does this on some models people assume that all models that HD sells are custom made, cheaper knock-offs. That is not true.

While you can not trust Brand names anymore, you can still trust model numbers. If you are looking for a new Milwaukee drill model "#1234", that model will be the same regardless of where you buy it. Just because HD sells it for $20 less then your local small tool vendor doesn't mean it's a special model made for HD. If it was in fact different, it would have a different model number, maybe even something similar like model "#1234-5".

You have to remember that even on the same model that sometimes HD can beat the local guys price. Partly because of their buying power and partly because HD sells in bulk compared to smaller stores their their mark up per unit doesn't have to be as high
 

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I was told by my local Eccho dealer that primarily sells to and repairs for professional landscapers that the HD Eccho trimers only have 1 piston rings while the ones they sell have 3. Does it really matter if you are a DIYer only using it once a week. Probably not. Does it make a difference if you are a pro running it 12 hrs a day....yup.

That is a bunch of BS. I have an srm-280t that HD doesn't carry but if they did I would have bought it there. The SRM-260 you buy at HD is the same one you get at a shop. I buy my line at a shop because it is cheaper.


Also I am pretty sure they all have 1 ring. You should have asked him to go get the piston for that trimmer from the parts bin.
 

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............While you can not trust Brand names anymore, you can still trust model numbers. If you are looking for a new Milwaukee drill model "#1234", that model will be the same regardless of where you buy it. Just because HD sells it for $20 less then your local small tool vendor doesn't mean it's a special model made for HD. If it was in fact different, it would have a different model number, maybe even something similar like model "#1234-5".

You have to remember that even on the same model that sometimes HD can beat the local guys price. Partly because of their buying power and partly because HD sells in bulk compared to smaller stores their their mark up per unit doesn't have to be as high

Yep. Glanced at HD for a first look at what Moen had for a bathroom sink. Wrote down a model number I liked.
Went to a plumbing supply house (where I was going to buy the faucet due to a great discount since my employer buys ALOT of stuff there) spoke to the sales guy and said I kinda like something like this and gave him the number.
He immediatly said "You got that number at HD didn't you?" I answered truthfully. He then said that him being a Moen distributor can not even buy that model number.
He said the same thing as CGV69 posted about Moen.

Name whoreing of a good, repected brand name just runs rampant among virtually all companies.
 
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What you need to look at is if name brand products have a HD specific part number. In those cases, there may have been slight design changes to reduce costs. Sheet metal might be slightly thinner or bearings may be a slighly lower grade to cut costs. Sometimes the changes may simply be cosmetic or packaging. I was told by my local Eccho dealer that primarily sells to and repairs for professional landscapers that the HD Eccho trimers only have 1 piston rings while the ones they sell have 3. Does it really matter if you are a DIYer only using it once a week. Probably not. Does it make a difference if you are a pro running it 12 hrs a day....yup. I guess the bottom line is sometimes you get the exact same product as the pro-stores and sometimes you do not. You just have to really know the product you are buying.

Or the dealer was feeding you a line of BS to try and justify their higher prices or to get your business.

I have heard these stories over and over again how Big Box stores sell a cheaper version that an Authorized dealer sells even if they both are the same model.

I have yet to see someone actually prove this and believe they are just trying to scare the consumer into buying from them because they know they can't compete with the Big box store prices.
 

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I keep seeing the phrase; "better than channel lock". As far as grove joint pliers go, Chanel Lock has always done the job quite well. At best another tool might do the same job just as well. But if the job got done with the Channel Lock, what makes the other tool "better"? Some of the foreign made tools are certainly more expensive, and they do appear to be well made but I fail to see the defects in Channel Lock that makes them less suitable for the work site than any other version/brand name of what is basically the same tool.
 

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It is a germany brand, made in germany. Other that are just as good from germany are NWS and Wiha. Their version of the tongue and groove vs the US design ones are better. The Knipnex cobra or nws one works better then the channel lock. I have the wiha version and the channellock. When I need clamp down on a bolt or something, the german design holds better.

The knipex needle nose is a way more precision tool then some of the US brand.

FYI, while wiha is a german brand, most of their pliers are made in Vietnam. I own some, and they're nice, but if you're interested in COO it isn't Germany.
 
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All the ones I have are made in Germany form Wiha. They are stamp right on the tool. Honestly I do not think I have seen a made in vietnam Wiha plier in Germany yet, but most of the stores I goto have older stock. And I have about 10 of them. Maybe their basic line like allot of other brands out there that have an asian line or the new stuff. Things are always changing in manufacturing locations.

Here are 2 of my 10 wiha pliers for example, all of them have made in germany itched on them.
 

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While you can not trust Brand names anymore, you can still trust model numbers. If you are looking for a new Milwaukee drill model "#1234", that model will be the same regardless of where you buy it. Just because HD sells it for $20 less then your local small tool vendor doesn't mean it's a special model made for HD. If it was in fact different, it would have a different model number, maybe even something similar like model "#1234-5".

See this has been my argument forever, er at least as long as people were claiming that an XYZ drill from HD had different internals than XYZ drill from anywhere else. I always felt if the model numbers were identical it should be/has to be the same product. Otherwise it would mean XYZ has to make products which appear identical and are in identical packaging but take the time to keep track of which "bad" ones go to HD and Lowe's and which "good" ones go to everyone else.

Furthermore, if this were occurring, why not also send the cheaper-to-manufacture XYZ drills to Tool Barn, CPO, Tooltopia, etc????
 
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FYI, while wiha is a german brand, most of their pliers are made in Vietnam. I own some, and they're nice, but if you're interested in COO it isn't Germany.

PS,

How are the vietnam made wiha, have you compare them to the german made ones?
 

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Went into my local John Deere store today and noticed a complete line of Honda walk behind lawnmowers. Across from the Honda mowers is a display of Stihl Chainsaws.
 

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people were claiming that an XYZ drill from HD had different internals than XYZ drill from anywhere else.
Not to be mean or rude but anybody who honestly thinks that is either stupid or at minimum hasn't given it any real thought.

If a company made too different versions of the same tool, one for HD and one for everybody else but gave them the same model #, how in the world would they know which one was which?
 

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I'm sure the buying power of the big box stores make it feasible for manufacturers to produce two lines. Do they? No doubt some do.

My attitude has always been that it pays to support local business. I buy from HD only when I have no choice. I much prefer the small store, the one where the guy lives on the next block. He may be a little more expensive, but I believe the service is worth it. Let these guys go out of business and pretty soon we will be limited to what Walmart, Home Depot and Lowes wants to sell us. They will dictate the market.
 

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Not to be mean or rude but anybody who honestly thinks that is either stupid or at minimum hasn't given it any real thought.

If a company made too different versions of the same tool, one for HD and one for everybody else but gave them the same model #, how in the world would they know which one was which?

Well, you could have the same model number, but have a different serial number prefix. there are ways to make two product lines "look" similar while still being able to distinguish them for inventory purposes.

An example would be Craftsman thin profile ratchets... same model/part number, but the ones with a "K" are made in USA and the ones with an "L" are from Taiwan.

I'm sure the buying power of the big box stores make it feasible for manufacturers to produce two lines. Do they? No doubt some do.

My attitude has always been that it pays to support local business. I buy from HD only when I have no choice. I much prefer the small store, the one where the guy lives on the next block. He may be a little more expensive, but I believe the service is worth it. Let these guys go out of business and pretty soon we will be limited to what Walmart, Home Depot and Lowes wants to sell us. They will dictate the market.

I don't mind supporting local businesses, if they actually provide good value in terms of service or price or whatever makes it worthwhile to shop at their store. HD or Lowe's hire "local" guys as well... the guy who heads up the electrical department at HD is a friend of mine that lives down the street. I'm supporting him when I shop at HD. I support the big stores in the same way; if their service *****, I won't shop there. So, for me, it doesn't matter if it's the "big" store or the "little" guy, it's about whoever provides the best value proposition to me is the place that will earn my business.
 
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