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What's this we? You got a mouse in your pocket?

I can't wait! Now Now Now!

First Thomas teases us with the prelude to what is sure to be another wonderful story, then IMCA38 tantalizes and taunts us (me) with an auction (with anvils!!!) tomorrow in Nebraska, which is just a smidge out of my commuting range, and now you think it's ok?!?! Seriously man.... Where are your priorities?!?! :lol_hitti

MM

Patience young Grasshopper. All good things come to those who wait and knowing Thomas it will be worth the wait. :thumbup:

I know it happens, but at the time it seems such a personal affront doesn't it? Why me and why now. Why couldn't it happen with a short post, why ask why............:dunno:

As they say, tomorrow, is another day. Thanks for your understanding. ;)

Thomas

I will add I've been there done that. I know the feeling of frustration.
By the way do you not know how to use the multi-quote button ? Saves a lot of time with a reply ;)
 
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By the way do you not know how to use the multi-quote button ? Saves a lot of time with a reply ;)

If you check you'll note that I use multiple quotes on occasion, normally when replying to something that's all about the same subject. Typically though I prefer to address each reply individually, on a more personal level. Is it considered bad form to do so? I know there are some unwritten forum protocols and I'm not privy to some of them. Is this one? :dunno:

I just flew in and I've learned it's best not to do a long post when I'm still tired from the flight. I did manage to be airborne on the 100th anniversary of the loss of the Titanic. I was struck by the contrast from then and now as my job is also to move people safely from one place to another. Here we were high above any iceberg menace at 34,000', traveling at 500+ mph in perfect comfort as I walked through the cabin around 0220 AM with most folks asleep. Just a little surreal to me.

Once I get some rest I'll try to redo that post that was lost a few days ago. Here's a little preview of some of the items from that post for those interested.

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If you check you'll note that I use multiple quotes on occasion, normally when replying to something that's all about the same subject. Typically though I prefer to address each reply individually, on a more personal level. Is it considered bad form to do so? I know there are some unwritten forum protocols and I'm not privy to some of them. Is this one? :dunno:

You raise a good point, yet every post takes up computer space. I can agree with you responding that way being more personal but you can still do that with the multiquote button responding to each post / response.

I just flew in and I've learned it's best not to do a long post when I'm still tired from the flight. I did manage to be airborne on the 100th anniversary of the loss of the Titanic. I was struck by the contrast from then and now as my job is also to move people safely from one place to another. Here we were high above any iceberg menace at 34,000', traveling at 500+ mph in perfect comfort as I walked through the cabin around 0220 AM with most folks asleep. Just a little surreal to me.

WOW, I watched a program on TV about the sinking last night. So many thing culminated in that Ship sinking. How the ship was built with different rivets, How it hit the iceberg side on and not head on (in the design) and how a warning by another ship was ignored and then how that ship who could have saved them turned off the radio after the opperator was rude to, How no binoculars where available for the observers. Sorry I sidetracked the topic.

Once I get some rest I'll try to redo that post that was lost a few days ago. Here's a little preview of some of the items from that post for those interested.

Thomas

Will await the next updates.:thumbup:
 
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After all the fits and starts to do this post I'm a little afraid it might not be all that interesting, but at least it will be informative. It is related to the shop as you'll see, so I'm posting it but it's not something you might expect to find here at Garage Journal.

Gus's Manual, Part I

With Gus coming to live with us I felt the first order of business should be a proper Mechanic's Manual, an old school one that provides tons of illustrations, photographs and is loaded with detailed "how to" information. I located an original 1948 Willys-Overland manual in South Dakota via eBay.

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Inside it was complete and in excellent condition except for...

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... the cover and the spine which was starting to fail. It was in need of repair and doing repairs to save an item is something I'm particularly fond of. ;) That's where the gentleman pictured earlier on the previous page, post #4827 comes in. His name is Christopher Hohn (Chris H) who grew up right across the street from me so I've know him my whole life. He's not only a good guy, skilled craftsman and avid auto racing enthusiast but also a true friend in a most sincere way.

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He happens to be the proprietor of Lincoln Book Bindery located here locally. He started work there part time during his college years, then full time and eventually came to own the business. With 40 years experience Chris H knows books and their construction, inside and out. He agreed to take a look at the manual and see what could be done.

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Chris H of course knew Mr Johnson and the welding shop growing up and we both agreed that Gus and the shop should have nothing but the best so we decided to re-bind the manual and give it a hard cover. A hard cover would be much more user friendly in a shop environment and durable as well.
Since Gus was now part of the shop and the manual belonged to Gus I felt a dedication page would be in order which we could easily do with the re-binding.

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Here the layout and letter type for the dedication page was composed on a computer...

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...and then printed on high quality paper. This over size page will be inserted in the manual as it's re-bound and then cut to proper size.

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The first order of business was to deconstruct the manual removing the cover, old tape and all the staples. That leaves a stack of pages referred to as a book block.

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Next, due to this book block's size, it will be sown with this over sewer (made in the 1930's BTW) using 9 needles...

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...so these two needles on the far right were added and threaded.

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Then starting with the back pages, working to the front, groups of roughly 15-30 pages are placed in the over-sewer. Note how wide the margin is at top where the old staples were. There is plenty of margin where it will now be sown.

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The machine moves the spot the needles will descend with each stack to prevent over-sewing in the same spot. The groups of pages are then progressively stacked one on top of another and sown...

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...until the book block with the dedication page, cover and end papers are all sown together.

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The book block is now all sown together with the threads still attached to the machine.

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The manual is then held in a press where the threads will be trimmed shorter and their ends will be glued with polyvinyl acetate ((C4H6O2)n) or PVA which is non acidic. (Is everyone taking notes for the test??) :wtf:

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Now the manual is ready to have the newly added end papers and dedication page trimmed to size using...

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...this highly accurate but very expensive, paper cutter. It's a Prism model made by Colter & Peterson. The maximum cut it can do would be a stack of paper 4.25 inches high and about 31 inches wide...

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...with an accuracy down to .001"

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Here we see the cutter in action where the ends of the original manual were just shaved a little to give them them a crisp new edge. The wide white pieces of paper are the added end papers and dedication page.

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With the manual now rebound and cut to size the spine needed to be rounded over. This process was started using this special hammer.

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This is what the spine will look like when rounded over and the crease in the cover by Chris' thumb is called a French Curve.

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That French Curve is important in a shop to allow the cover to lay open as shown on a bench while referencing the manual.

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Also by using an open spine as seen, with the cover open all the way it won't damage the spine. Gus will like that.

That's the end of Part I.

Check back to see if poor Gus will ever be reunited with his beloved Mechanic's Manual. Will we misspell Toledo on the new hard cover, will animal glue really stick or is that just a rumor and can a "Smooth All" be used to polish gold leaf. All this and more is coming up in the next exciting post. Don't miss it! :thumbup:

Thomas
 

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Completely unexpected and totally awesome, dude :rocker: ;)

Nothing I ever expected to learn on GJ, but I can check off 'Learned something new' for 4/16/12. Thanks to you and Chris H.
 

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Thomas, I have a little present for you in the form of some pictures from my easter trip... I will post them up here once I've uploaded them to my photobucket account :)
 

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Interesting, but I usually get a shop manual in less than perfect condition. Then I cut each page out and individually slide it into a plastic 3 ring binder sleeve. Then I have a laminated shop manual that lays flat in a large 3 ring binder. I can even add pages for aftermarket parts that I add to my cars. The pages are also easy to wipe greasy fingerprints off of.
 
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Completely unexpected and totally awesome, dude :rocker: ;)

Nothing I ever expected to learn on GJ, but I can check off 'Learned something new' for 4/16/12. Thanks to you and Chris H.

I was a little apprehensive about doing the post(s), wasn't really sure if it would be considered "appropriate". There is more for your "Learned something new" on the way. Thank you for your continuing interest. :thumbup:

Thomas
 
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Thomas, I have a little present for you in the form of some pictures from my easter trip... I will post them up here once I've uploaded them to my photobucket account :)

You certainly have my interest. I have no clue what-so-ever! Look forward to seeing them.

Wondering Thomas
 
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Interesting, but I usually get a shop manual in less than perfect condition. Then I cut each page out and individually slide it into a plastic 3 ring binder sleeve. Then I have a laminated shop manual that lays flat in a large 3 ring binder. I can even add pages for aftermarket parts that I add to my cars. The pages are also easy to wipe greasy fingerprints off of.

That's a great way to do it also. On the earlier post that was lost (sacrificed?) to the computer gods, I did mention this particular manual...

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...is printed on high quality, glossy paper that resists dirt and grease that can also be wiped off without damaging the page.

A couple of considerations went into re-biding the manual. This is Gus's manual and a permanent part of the shop so an elegant/unique appearance + longevity was desirable and more importantly it was a terrific excuse for Chris H and I to spend a fun day together. Chris H scheduled this during some slow time for him so we could take as much time as necessary to document the whole process. As it is I'm having to skip many of the small details that go into handcrafting a book for brevity. I took over 250 pictures and we spent the better part of a day doing the manual, discussing various aspects of bindery history and process. We also swapped some wonderful Johnson's Welding Shop memories. Restoring the shop and it's equipment has given me many excuses to do and experience events that I might not have done otherwise. It's all part of the journey, not the destination. ;)

Thank you 57plymouth posting an alternative method that I'm sure others will find helpful.

Thomas
 

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I love this subject as I spent 40 years working for a large printing company in the bindery. We did not do hard bound books ourselves. We printed the material and end sheets and sent them to a specialist, we did do every other type of binding including perfect bound. The sight of that cutter almost made me want go back to work running our 52 inch Heidelburg Polars. The printing industry has lost a large number of shops including ours. I was the lucky one, I got to retire. Many of my highly skilled co-workers have had a hard time finding work of any kind. Bob
 

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Nice job on the manual rebinding. Here are a couple of pictures (before and after) from my Craig’s list find last Monday. I bought this 60’s version of Sun’s 1020 scope for $70, not working. I brought it home and cleaned it up. Went through each system electronically and found a number of corroded failed terminals, a frozen motor, frozen breakers and a dirty old machine that just needed a little tlc. I am happy to report that the unit is now in 100% working order and ready to be hooked up to a vintage hot rod. Your machine made this discovery very exciting for me. Now I just need to find a Sun distributor machine to sit along its side.
 

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Thomas,

May I suggest adding:

DEDICATED TO

VIRGIL JOHNSON

AND

JOHNSON'S WELDING
AND REPAIR

PHILO, ILL
U.S.A.

CENTER OF THE UNIVERSE
 
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Wow. I've always wondered about book bindings. Who knew I would find the answers buried deep in a thread about a 1930's auto shop? The education I receive from reading this is part of what keeps me interested.

It's like an novel unfolding right before your eyes without realizing it at all. I hope to hang around until the ending!

Great story as always Thomas!

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The photos were wonderful. I especially liked the description of the sewing process. I have wondered about that for some time when I encountered the threads on spines of various books. Thanks for more education.
 

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I hope this isn't a dissappointment Thomas, I wouldn't have wanted to get your hopes up for something interesting :lol_hitti

Apologies for the quality of the photographs... they were only taken with my iphone as my camera was forgotten!


For my Easter break with the family we took the caravan to a place in Hampshire, southern England, called The New Forest. The place is full of wild horses and beautiful woodland to walk in, but it has a gem in the form of a village called Beaulieu. (pronounced b-you-lee).

A very pretty village by the river that is home to a rather special place that goes by the name of Beaulieu Motor Museum.

The museum holds some cars that are very close to my heart, such as one of the Campbell's Bluebird land speed record cars:
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Bentley Blower:
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Pre Production No.4 Land Rover:
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But, what I think Thomas would be interested in is this:
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Based on a garage from Wedmore in Somerset, its got a couple of things in common with Thomas and Virgil's garage in being from the 1930's!

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The building is only a reproduction and but with the way its filled it has atmosphere. It reminded me very much of your shop Thomas and the way nothing was thrown away:

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Gus' english cousin:

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All around the 'shop are old metal signs, petrol pumps, and other garage related stuff, here is a selection!

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Hopefully this will work: a video of the inside of the garage :)


Hope you like it Thomas! If you want to have a browse of my other pictures from there take a look at my photobucket here: http://s439.photobucket.com/albums/qq112/landroversforever/Beaulieu Motor Museum/
 

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Your video works ! and thank you posting the pics..Great stuff.. That sign" in event of invasion" is something I have never seen ! wow
 

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Wow.

I have finally read through this entire thread. It has taken several days!!

Thomas & Chris, you have something very special, and the shops and vehicles are amazing as well.

I look forward to what you post in the future!
 
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Once again I made it home. I find my flying is getting in the way of me being able to post in a timely manner! It's been tough trying to post while I'm gone on the "road" so to speak. But I digress, to continue...

Gus's Manual, Part II

BTW before I get started with this, Chris H reminded me that you'er going to see some more old machines used in the bindery process. He said it's not because he's enamored with old equipment (even though he is ;)), it's more that the process hasn't really changed and those machines do it the best. So here we go......

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As we've seen previously, the spine rounding is started with the book block on the bench. Once the curve is started, it's clamped in this Rosback rounder- Backer where the rounding is finished.

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Here you can see the nice radius on the spine. Then to dress up the ends of the spine...

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...Head Bands are cut ...


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...and glued to each end of the spine. This is only for cosmetics, to dress up the ends. It's a fussy detail, but the mark of high quality hand craftsmanship.

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Next comes the backing cloth which is glued to the spine. This will help reinforce and stabilize the book block stitching but much more importantly...

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...the little flaps are what the front and rear hard covers are hinged to. NOTE, this is the most important aspect of a hard cover book. This is what holds the book to it's cover.

The next step is to make the hard cover or case as it's called. Cover boards are the hard in a hard cover book.

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It looks like heavy duty card board but in reality it's specially made for books, laminated in layers just like plywood to make it stable and warp resistant. Once those were cut (front and back covers)...

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...I had to select the type and color of the book cloth from this selection. Since this is a mechanics manual and will be used in a rugged, burly, manly shop environment, Chris H suggested a material called library buckram. This is a very heavy duty material which holds up well in heavy use.

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Book cloth is heavy cotton fabric with a surface applied to it. I wanted to come as close to the color of the original manual as possible and this is what was used. I'm positive Gus will approve. :thumbup: With that selection made the case now had to be put together.

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The cover boards were placed on the book cloth, the white center paper is used to reinforce the book cloth spine and to keep the glue on the book block spine from sticking to the cover cloth. Remember this is going to be a "open spine". That metal divider is a layout tool to center the various pieces on the book cloth.

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Then a pencil outline is drawn as a reference. Next note, shocking as it might seem with all the high quality and attention to detail Chris H exhibits, you can see above that he proceeds to CUT CORNERS :scared: I almost couldn't bare to watch. And all along I thought he never cut corners in his work. :p

Remember the poster advertising for dead animals?

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That is so they can make animal glue. It's rendered from the hooves and hides.

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Here's what a block of new animal glue looks like before it's heated up.

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With a thin layer of animal glue applied to the book cloth the cover boards and spine strip are glued to it. Animal glue is used because it laminates items well and sets up quickly, in 30 seconds to a minute. All that's left is to finish off the edges.

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That's done with this Merz turning-in machine.

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Note how it turns the edge over and is glued with animal glue.

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And this is what it looks like with the edges all turned in. And speaking of turning in.........I've been up flying and commuting for the last 24 hours or so and I'm going to turn in. I'll finish this tomorrow. (Pretty slick way to stop, huh?) ;) Thanks everyone.

Thomas
 

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This is SO cool, Thomas.

I'm not having a laugh, this process is something I have always wondered about. Thanks for sharing!!
 

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I hope this isn't a dissappointment Thomas, I wouldn't have wanted to get your hopes up for something interesting :lol_hitti

Apologies for the quality of the photographs... they were only taken with my iphone as my camera was forgotten!


For my Easter break with the family we took the caravan to a place in Hampshire, southern England, called The New Forest. The place is full of wild horses and beautiful woodland to walk in, but it has a gem in the form of a village called Beaulieu. (pronounced b-you-lee).

A very pretty village by the river that is home to a rather special place that goes by the name of Beaulieu Motor Museum.

The museum holds some cars that are very close to my heart, such as one of the Campbell's Bluebird land speed record cars:
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The building is only a reproduction and but with the way its filled it has atmosphere. It reminded me very much of your shop Thomas and the way nothing was thrown away:[/QUOTE]

nice! great pics. looks like a cool place to visit. those gas pumps are way cool.
 

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Thomas -

When you first posted this picture I immediately thought it was for doing binding work, but it was much more elaborate than anything I used in my youth when working at a Copy/Print store. I also didn't recognize the functions of the other pictures so I couldn't have guessed where these posts would wind up.

Now after having gotten more of the story, and seen the wonderful pictures and read the narrative, I can say that you don't disappoint sir!

Having grown up being a bookworm, the inside scoop on the detail behind the making of the books I love is wonderful. I hadn't known that the book covers were anything more than simple chipboard cardboard. I am always learning something here. (Don't tell Chris, she might decide to test us just to confirm!)

Thanks again, and get some rest so you can keep the information flowing!

MM
 

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And this is what it looks like with the edges all turned in. And speaking of turning in.........I've been up flying and commuting for the last 24 hours or so and I'm going to turn in. I'll finish this tomorrow. (Pretty slick way to stop, huh?) ;) Thanks everyone.

Thomas

I find it very hard to believe that you sleep. It would take 5 people to do what you do in a days time and that would be with them catching a nap every once in a great while. You get more done in a day than most get done in a month :eyecrazy: So when you turn in to sleep, I imagine it's a 10 minute power nap, then you wake back up completely refreshed :willy_nil
 

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Bookbinding; I thought it was practically a 'lost art'. So cool, it's amazing to see the process as a true professional does it. Many years ago in Junior H.S., I took a Drafting/Printing class where we did basic bookbinding as a graded project, and in doing so, I came to appreciate the 'art' of bookbinding. Thanks Thomas for bringing back those memories of long ago! Looking forward to the exciting conclusion and epilog of 'Gus's Genuine Johnson Garage Guide'. Be careful though, giving him this gift might make him yearn for even more..... power steering, heated seats, cup-holders, and-on, and-on! LOL
 

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I was sat here looking at the pics & reading about the book binding. I get about halfway through & I'm thinking to myself "WTF, this looks familiar?" Then I had a flashback to being taught how to do this in school :)
 

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But, but..... I'm still not done yet..............:)

Thomas

Ah haa, so there is a chance something will get powder coated then? I wouldn't want to be disappointed.

I'm also waiting to see how you weave in the SM shirt.

R1chy
 
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