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Hi guys,
I am getting a Prentiss Bulldog No.96 that is missing the swivel base and handle - would anyone know where I would be able to get a swivel base and what other Model numbers would fit if I cannot locate a No. 96 swivel base?
And what would be a fair price for a swivel base?
I imagine I can fabricate the handle if there are none available.
Thanks guys.
 
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The main reason your not getting any responses is that you've stumped the band! Swivel bases by themselves are going extint. Throw is a Prentiss that no one knows anything about and it that much worse. If its a nice vise, figure out a way to mount it without the base. if its a beatup vise I then hope your getting it for Zero cash!
 
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Haven't gotten it yet for a photo- I didn't think the 96 model was that rare...
 
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Well - I finally got the Prentiss Bulldog 96 - I took photos and I hope they come out here...I measured the hole for the handle - it is 1 1/4" opening.
 

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The jaws are 6" - and it opens up 10" - I read that it is suppose to weigh in at 155lbs
Currently it weighs 123lbs without the base and handle.
 
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"Seems like a new base could be fabricated?"

Yes - but I wonder what other Prentiss base can measure up if I cannot find the No.96 Model.
It would be nice to get it original - but if not, I guess you do with what you have...
 
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Honestly, I would not worry so much about finding the swivel base. Mount it as-is, and bolt that bad boy straight to your bench. The swiveling feature can be quite over-rated anyway in my opinion. Nice vise!

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Honestly....you don't want a swivel base for that. That vise isn heavy duty and if you use it for the heavy work it was designed for then it has no biz on a swivel base.
 
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tool_scrounge said:
Well the Prentiss 52-92 swivel base is 6" diameter at the interface. This is the 4" version (about 50 lbs).
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So in other words - those Models will not fit?
But I took the measurement across the bottom and it measured 10 inches across...Am I measuring at the wrong location?

I just took it apart - and surprised the collar was able to come out with the set screw - but the part that it srews into (female - don't know the proper name) is held in place by pins - and I do not want to open up a can of worms
and tap it out (btw - are those pins hardened?)
I brought it to my parts washer tried cleaning it up the best I could and now it has a coat of paint stripper on it bubbling up the paint.

One question - when the manufacturer makes the handle of any vise - are the rods threaded on the ends so the balls can be screw on?
The opening of the hole where the handle goes through is 1 1/4" - quite big.
I have to look a little deeper in my garage to see if I have it. It always seems that when I'm looking for something - I cannot find it - then when I'm not looking for it anymore, it'll show up 100 times...
Thanks guys.
 
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I had a Prentiss that was a little smaller than that and I eventually gave up looking for a swivel base. I ended up selling it (in hindsight, probably a mistake). I'd probably just fabricate a donut shaped base to support it and bolt it to my bench. An aluminum ring or even a piece of hard oak would work fine.
 
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spongerich said:
I had a Prentiss that was a little smaller than that and I eventually gave up looking for a swivel base. I ended up selling it (in hindsight, probably a mistake). I'd probably just fabricate a donut shaped base to support it and bolt it to my bench. An aluminum ring or even a piece of hard oak would work fine.
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That's a great idea using the aluminum or oak - I think oak would be a better choice.
I wonder about the question regarding the handle...
 
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All the vises I've seen have the handle ends pressed on... While it would be really nice if they were threaded so the handle could be removed for repair/replacement, I suppose it would just add cost. I'd thread one end if I were replacing it. A little locktite will keep it on there.
 
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spongerich said:
All the vises I've seen have the handle ends pressed on... While it would be really nice if they were threaded so the handle could be removed for repair/replacement, I suppose it would just add cost. I'd thread one end if I were replacing it. A little locktite will keep it on there.
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That is what I plan to do - well, I finally dug up that steel rod - it was bent on the ends, so I cut 24" in the middle - it is 1 1/16" thick and slides in the hole nice with very little space so it can slide.
I wanted to weigh it - and it was 5 lbs. Pretty big slide handle.
I wire wheeled it - next I need to get steel balls for the ends.
I've searched the internet and thought it would be easy to get them threaded already - but no luck - I want to get the balls before I thread the rod to make sure they will be the same threads - my luck, I'll thread the rod and the ball threads would be different.

Any idea where I can get regular (not chrome) 1 1/2" or bigger steel balls that can have a threaded hole of 1 1/16"?
Not sure what type of steel it should be where it can be strong and yet not brittle.
I checked on a thread that someone posted here on making a beautiful handle and he said Reid had steel balls - but not this size after I called them.
So I need to keeping checking and looking for them...
 
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Had you considered just using a 1" threaded nut? you can tur the 1/16 down to 1" leave it long and radius the end of the threaded end so you have a half round end sticking out of the nut. Bottom both nuts, and put on a couple of 1" rubber washers or O rings as pinch protectors.
 
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Outlawmws said:
Had you considered just using a 1" threaded nut? you can tur the 1/16 down to 1" leave it long and radius the end of the threaded end so you have a half round end sticking out of the nut. Bottom both nuts, and put on a couple of 1" rubber washers or O rings as pinch protectors.
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Would do it - but no machines in this garage to do it. Wish I could.
 
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