It has a "lazy susan" look to me. Maybe partially inset into the wall
Between 265 & 485 SQ/FT 1950s Craftsman Garage retro remodel
- Thread starter Red Leader
- Start date
Workspaces sized between 265 and 485 squarefeet.
It has a "lazy susan" look to me. Maybe partially inset into the wall
OP
Red Leader
Well-known member
OP
Red Leader
Well-known member
OP
Red Leader
Well-known member
These are pretty much what I remember seeing. I think one of them said to use a wide flat bit. That would also mean less passes. I'd also suggest moving the router fairly slow until you got the feel for jig.
Come to think of it... you could probably use a similar setup with a skill saw or even put it on a RAS if the bench top was narrow enough (By that I mean use the boards to suspend the top on the table and run the RAS head over it. I'd use a stacked dado blade if I did that. Of course that means your RAS would have to be very carefully aligned to be parallel.).
...of course if you wanted to go "old school" get out a big bench planer (the hand type) and get after it. It takes a lot of work but there's nothing like getting a workout and then the bench will mean just that much more to you.
I have a flat bit that looks like it is about .75 inch or 1 inch. It is not carbide but since I am not cutting a deep channel (lets hope not!!!) hopefully I can get away with it not burning. While I would like to one day have a nice collection of carbide router bits, I'd prefer to not have to front the cost for the bit right now since the garage is still on a strict budget.
I have some scrap slatboard that I can probably cut to create the border panels and router sled. I would hope to not have to front money there as well
Yes, I am cheap!!!
OP
Red Leader
Well-known member
Thanks for these. I saw an article that uses the string method to get perfect alignment which is a great idea.
However, I'm a little scared to do it to my bench
See this:
http://www.highlandwoodworking.com/flattenaworkbenchwitharouter.aspx
Thanks for these. I saw an article that uses the string method to get perfect alignment which is a great idea.
However, I'm a little scared to do it to my bench
See this:
http://www.highlandwoodworking.com/flattenaworkbenchwitharouter.aspx
The other option is a power plane, if you were closer you could borrow mine. If you use one be sure and start with very very light passes, they will flat eat up lumber.
novaboy009
Well-known member
The other option is a power plane, if you were closer you could borrow mine. If you use one be sure and start with very very light passes, they will flat eat up lumber.
That's what I would use. The little hand power planers are nice to have around sometimes.
egnorant
Well-known member
I put it as my avatar!
The box was repainted over the badges and handles sometime in its life.
Similar badge says Made in USA where mine says Pat Trade mark.
Bruce
OP
Red Leader
Well-known member
Some interesting discussion being had about that above Delta picture + many other fun/interesting pictures:
http://owwm.org/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=114908
http://owwm.org/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=114908
flybefree
Well-known member
I want all of that delta gear....awesome!
Shaun
Shaun
OP
Red Leader
Well-known member
The Steven Biars saw...
Back in December I ran a contest, giving away a free saw/jointer combo unit. The unit is small, but it is still useful for rough cutting lumber and surfacing it. When I ran the contest, I asked a simple question - tell me why you want it and best answer wins!
Steven put in a very heartfelt answer, wanting to use it to build things for handicapped children as a part of his 'Amazing Workshop'. As such, he won the contest hands down, and has been patiently awaiting the tool.
Here is the contest thread in question:
http://garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=129584&highlight=giving
Here is where the combo unit started when I got it:
Here is where it is at now:
I haven't done a lot to it - I rebuilt the saw and cleaned up the cast iron surfaces and redid the electrical. It runs well and will be a solid tool!
And now, the task remains to get it to Steven. There are two possible ways - one is to let it hitch a ride from someone traveling between Denver and Ohio or to ship it.
I'll try my luck with getting a rucker (ride) for it, but if that doesn't work, shipping it is!
Back in December I ran a contest, giving away a free saw/jointer combo unit. The unit is small, but it is still useful for rough cutting lumber and surfacing it. When I ran the contest, I asked a simple question - tell me why you want it and best answer wins!
Steven put in a very heartfelt answer, wanting to use it to build things for handicapped children as a part of his 'Amazing Workshop'. As such, he won the contest hands down, and has been patiently awaiting the tool.
Here is the contest thread in question:
http://garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=129584&highlight=giving
Here is where the combo unit started when I got it:
Here is where it is at now:
I haven't done a lot to it - I rebuilt the saw and cleaned up the cast iron surfaces and redid the electrical. It runs well and will be a solid tool!
And now, the task remains to get it to Steven. There are two possible ways - one is to let it hitch a ride from someone traveling between Denver and Ohio or to ship it.
I'll try my luck with getting a rucker (ride) for it, but if that doesn't work, shipping it is!
Last edited:
If it comes down to shipping, post the total here and be ready with a paypal account. I'll be happy to chip in, and I'm sure others will too.
Wingnut65
Well-known member
+3
Great work, Dave to get bring this back to life so it can live on to make more sawdust.
Great work, Dave to get bring this back to life so it can live on to make more sawdust.
lowheat
Well-known member
I'm new to the site... and amazed.
Hemihead2
ALLIANCE MEMBER
Count me in.
odie
Well-known member
I'd be willing to chip in as well.
gr8laker
Member
Hi. When dealing with a less-than-pro drywall finish, I mix some powdered drywall mud in with the primer, & apply with a long-nap roller. This hides the imperfections nicely. Just be careful not to put it on too thick.
OP
Red Leader
Well-known member
Thanks guys for all your generous offers.
I've made a post up on the OWWM forums to see if I can find a 'rucker' (ride for a tool) from Denver to Portsmouth:
http://owwm.org/viewtopic.php?f=29&t=115188
I am going to try that route and see if I get any bites. If not, then shipping becomes the next option. I'm guessing that this combo weighs about 150-200lbs and I know nothing of shipping freight, so any tips would help. The good news is that the saw does come apart extremely easily for any type of transportation.
Thanks again - your offers are very moving.
-RL
I've made a post up on the OWWM forums to see if I can find a 'rucker' (ride for a tool) from Denver to Portsmouth:
http://owwm.org/viewtopic.php?f=29&t=115188
I am going to try that route and see if I get any bites. If not, then shipping becomes the next option. I'm guessing that this combo weighs about 150-200lbs and I know nothing of shipping freight, so any tips would help. The good news is that the saw does come apart extremely easily for any type of transportation.
Thanks again - your offers are very moving.
-RL
OP
Red Leader
Well-known member
Calling All Locals...
The next Colorado 'old tool' gathering is upon us! It is slated for next weekend (Saturday, May 19) and should be a blast! I hosted the last one - this time it will be at another member's place.
You can read more about it here:
http://owwm.org/viewtopic.php?f=29&t=115188
If you are interested in attending, I'll put you in contact with the head honcho.
Thanks!
The next Colorado 'old tool' gathering is upon us! It is slated for next weekend (Saturday, May 19) and should be a blast! I hosted the last one - this time it will be at another member's place.
You can read more about it here:
http://owwm.org/viewtopic.php?f=29&t=115188
If you are interested in attending, I'll put you in contact with the head honcho.
Thanks!
Hey, checkout uship.com
Drivers bid on picking-up your item if they have other freight in the same direction.
The longer and longer you wait and turn-down bids for being too expensive... the cheaper the freight bids get.
From Denver, you should be sitting pretty on easy access.. you may get as low as $100, but realistically at $130.
I received a quote to ship a pallet from chicago for $90 @700 lbs.
.
Drivers bid on picking-up your item if they have other freight in the same direction.
The longer and longer you wait and turn-down bids for being too expensive... the cheaper the freight bids get.
From Denver, you should be sitting pretty on easy access.. you may get as low as $100, but realistically at $130.
I received a quote to ship a pallet from chicago for $90 @700 lbs.
.
takeiteasy
Active member
OP
Red Leader
Well-known member
That is a VERY nice find! Great save! It will serve you very, very well! Any plans for it?
Sorry I've been kinda out of the loop. I've been rather busy with the kiddo / job complications, etc. Working on catching up with the thread. =)
The saw/jointer is drool worthy. It's eye candy already - can't wait to make some sawdust.
The saw/jointer is drool worthy. It's eye candy already - can't wait to make some sawdust.
Last edited:
takeiteasy
Active member
Well, I still have a long ways to go on the garage, so it will definitely come in useful for building all my cabinets, etc. Then I've got other little projects and crafty things to do around the house, and a shed, and a fence....lots of opportunities.
OP
Red Leader
Well-known member
Freight shipping is pretty cheap if you can make a crate for it or strap it down to a pallet and get it to the shipping company's dock. I recently shipped a 500-pound engine from Los Angeles to Spokane, which is over 1200 miles. It was only $159 to ship.
The broker I used was www.freight88.com
The broker I used was www.freight88.com
machine_punk
Well-known member
Another option for shipping heavy, relatively small things, is Greyhound. They put the item under the bus, in the cargo area, and you just pick it up at the local bus station. My dad used to have heavy things for work shipped to him this way all the time.
M_P
M_P
OP
Red Leader
Well-known member
Thanks guys for the neat ideas. I'll do some research on all those options and we'll take it from there!
-Dave
-Dave
OP
Red Leader
Well-known member
Well, no real huge updates for the weekend (yet!).
I spent today running around with the wife and son which was pretty fun, then repairing the exhaust on the Honda and changing its oil, as well as the Kawasaki's oil.
Thank the Lord I decided to do a late night cleaning of the garage on Thursday night. I had no idea I'd need the space so urgently! The Honda's exhaust pipe split in two and was dragging on the ground Friday afternoon. Was going to weld it, but didn't want to torch holes in it (haven't welded since I was about 12 haha) so I just used a metal coupler. It is not that permanent, but I feel it may actually be more long-wearing than a weld repair since it broke at a weld joint and I could see it happening again.
4runner's oil should get changed tomorrow, but not before we celebrate the wife/mommy
That's all for now! I'm hoping when I get some time (whenever the heck that will be), I'll rig up the routing jig to surface the workbench top. I need to keep moving on that project!
I spent today running around with the wife and son which was pretty fun, then repairing the exhaust on the Honda and changing its oil, as well as the Kawasaki's oil.
Thank the Lord I decided to do a late night cleaning of the garage on Thursday night. I had no idea I'd need the space so urgently! The Honda's exhaust pipe split in two and was dragging on the ground Friday afternoon. Was going to weld it, but didn't want to torch holes in it (haven't welded since I was about 12 haha) so I just used a metal coupler. It is not that permanent, but I feel it may actually be more long-wearing than a weld repair since it broke at a weld joint and I could see it happening again.
4runner's oil should get changed tomorrow, but not before we celebrate the wife/mommy
That's all for now! I'm hoping when I get some time (whenever the heck that will be), I'll rig up the routing jig to surface the workbench top. I need to keep moving on that project!
It's a small world.
Bruce is the brother of one of the guys in the Mustang club I am in. We have met a few times, mostly at Pate swapmeet in Fort Worth. About 50 miles from me.
OP
Red Leader
Well-known member
While I promise to have a real update later this evening, I thought I would entertain with some cool things I've seen recently.
Want to finish your shop with something super cool and unique but don't have a lot of money? Try OSB! I was recently at an Illegal Pete's in Denver and they had one of the coolest ideas I had seen in a long time - they sandwiched about 8 pieces of 3/4" OBS together and sanded the whole thing perfectly smooth, then finished with an amber/clear poly coat. The result was absolutely stunning. When I first saw it I thought it was all made from crazy pieces of spalted maple, until I was looking at it from about 6 inches away
Here are some non-closeups of the interior:
If I ever go there again I'll try and take some close up shots - it was really amazing looking.
I'm guessing that it is probably a higher quality OSB - most of the strands were going the same way, but there were pieces here any there under the finish that were going off in random directions, which led me to believe that it was OSB. I could always be wrong but I couldn't think of anything else it could be.
If I need to do more finish work in the garage, I am totally trying out finished OSB!
Also, completely random and having nothing to do with my thread, I caught a glimpse of this and thought it was just too cool not to post up here in the thread. A Morgan three wheeler:
Want to finish your shop with something super cool and unique but don't have a lot of money? Try OSB! I was recently at an Illegal Pete's in Denver and they had one of the coolest ideas I had seen in a long time - they sandwiched about 8 pieces of 3/4" OBS together and sanded the whole thing perfectly smooth, then finished with an amber/clear poly coat. The result was absolutely stunning. When I first saw it I thought it was all made from crazy pieces of spalted maple, until I was looking at it from about 6 inches away
Here are some non-closeups of the interior:
If I ever go there again I'll try and take some close up shots - it was really amazing looking.
I'm guessing that it is probably a higher quality OSB - most of the strands were going the same way, but there were pieces here any there under the finish that were going off in random directions, which led me to believe that it was OSB. I could always be wrong but I couldn't think of anything else it could be.
If I need to do more finish work in the garage, I am totally trying out finished OSB!
Also, completely random and having nothing to do with my thread, I caught a glimpse of this and thought it was just too cool not to post up here in the thread. A Morgan three wheeler:
toddmcdong
Well-known member
Those pieces of wood are called parallam beams - essentially what you described, but minus the labor of fixing all of the osb together. You can order them in almost any size from your lumberyard. Depending on how you cut and sand it, they can take on some very cool looks.
OP
Red Leader
Well-known member
Alright guys! I'm one step closer to getting the workbench finished!
I made all the components for the router-flattening table trick. Thanks to mdback1for suggesting it and shoottx for posting some articles about it. I had stumble across the technique some time ago but had completely forgotten about it until ya'll said something Thanks for having my back!
Here is the router sled:
I don't have a super wide bit and it isn't carbide, but it will do. Since its free because I already have it I made the sled out of slat board scrap I had around. The board had a bit of curve to it. That got taken care of with the oak side pieces (also scrap), but even those weren't fully flat, so then I used this:
To take care of that! Thanks Steven Biars for letting me use your jointer
I'm going to use these:
...to screw up underneath the bench top to act as supports for the rails. They will be shimmed as necessary.
Here are the rails:
If I was made of money I'd go out and get MDF or something better than what I'm using and reinforce it and go the whole 9 yards, but I feel pretty good about being able to do this and not spending any extra money. It won't be dead perfect but it will get me close and be a LOT better than the bench currently is.
Hopefully I'll have a chance to do it sometime this weekend, but with the big tool get-together on Saturday, the wifey is already being really generous by watching the little guy for all that time. We'll see what happens. Man, I'm anxious to finish this thing!
As soon as I start routing, expect lots more pictures!
-RL
I made all the components for the router-flattening table trick. Thanks to mdback1for suggesting it and shoottx for posting some articles about it. I had stumble across the technique some time ago but had completely forgotten about it until ya'll said something
Thanks for having my back! Here is the router sled:
I don't have a super wide bit and it isn't carbide, but it will do. Since its free because I already have it
I made the sled out of slat board scrap I had around. The board had a bit of curve to it. That got taken care of with the oak side pieces (also scrap), but even those weren't fully flat, so then I used this:
To take care of that! Thanks Steven Biars for letting me use your jointer
I'm going to use these:
...to screw up underneath the bench top to act as supports for the rails. They will be shimmed as necessary.
Here are the rails:
If I was made of money I'd go out and get MDF or something better than what I'm using and reinforce it and go the whole 9 yards, but I feel pretty good about being able to do this and not spending any extra money. It won't be dead perfect but it will get me close and be a LOT better than the bench currently is.
Hopefully I'll have a chance to do it sometime this weekend, but with the big tool get-together on Saturday, the wifey is already being really generous by watching the little guy for all that time. We'll see what happens. Man, I'm anxious to finish this thing!
As soon as I start routing, expect lots more pictures!
-RL
Last edited:
OP
Red Leader
Well-known member
Just in case any of you were interested in attending the nations biggest and coolest vintage woodworking machinery convention, registration is now open and will fill up extremely fast:
http://owwm.org/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=115567
To look at more information about Arnfest, please check out this link:
http://arnfest.com/
I have never gone but I hope to one day. If anyone is looking for to sell their tools and want them to go to 'good hands', or buy an entire woodworking shop in 1 swoop, or just hang out and talk old tools, this is the place.
http://owwm.org/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=115567
To look at more information about Arnfest, please check out this link:
http://arnfest.com/
I have never gone but I hope to one day. If anyone is looking for to sell their tools and want them to go to 'good hands', or buy an entire woodworking shop in 1 swoop, or just hang out and talk old tools, this is the place.
OP
Red Leader
Well-known member
Thanks! It is my favorite, humble disaster
In garage news - the radial saw (Craftsman, 1952) has been moved out of the garage, the 1960 Craftsman RAS and metal cart have been given away, the Homecraft scroll saw has been sold, as have the Craftsman jointer and Atlas cabinet saw. I look forward to the extra room I'll be getting and re-organizing soon!
My first step to be able to do the epoxy floor this summer is slowing shaping up and the first step is being completed!
tinbender 66
Well-known member
You got some serious momentum goin' there! It should be a good summer for you