Old warehouse rebuild to workshop in Portugal
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Hi Jose.
My Giullia it's a Junior. It was all rubild by me (of course with professional help). The color is Red Alfa.
About the Duetto and Spyder... Very dificult choise. Both are great... If i could i would keep both but if i had to chose... i would throw a coin in the air.
The MB W123 it was from my grandfather. Emotional car for me. I've made several trips on that car when i was a Kid. Can't talk about my classic's without talking about it.
The Ford A it's fantastic. It's so simple that you can do it all. The driving completly diferent from the european cars. If you drive your TC or TD and the the Ford A, it's like changing from a Kart to a tractor. Very fun drive, very relaxed and lots of torque at low rpm. You just let the car go and be awere when you want to stop... Don't hesitate to buy one in the future if you are considering it.
Best regards
Jorge
I think every thing is working right. They are a bit heavy but it seams to work right...
Talking about English Cars...
My 1937 MG TA when i bought it in England about 6 years ago
Below during the 2nd World War. In these photo you can see lots of details tipical of that period. Whatch closer and you will find some.
And before restauration (by the previous owner) when it was stored in a barn.
This car has lots of history. It was a car that belonged the Lancashire Police. I love it. It's only a pity i had to change the licence plate to a portuguese one in order to circulate in portuguese roads
A little bit offtopic but... maybe i will open a thread just to talk about this car history. More than the cars themselfs i like their past...
Jorge
My 1937 MG TA when i bought it in England about 6 years ago
Below during the 2nd World War. In these photo you can see lots of details tipical of that period. Whatch closer and you will find some.
And before restauration (by the previous owner) when it was stored in a barn.
This car has lots of history. It was a car that belonged the Lancashire Police. I love it. It's only a pity i had to change the licence plate to a portuguese one in order to circulate in portuguese roads
A little bit offtopic but... maybe i will open a thread just to talk about this car history. More than the cars themselfs i like their past...
Jorge
abstamaria
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MaxJax; Alfa Duetto
Jose is right. That's the beauty of a MaxJax. You can install another set of anchors to accommodate very narrow cars like the MG Ts (it is great that the three of us have these wonderful cars). I was just thinking, Jose, that since Jorge has all that space and no height restriction, he might be able to install a full size 2-post lift with arms long enough to take the MG and also the wider cars, without relocating the posts. But at the moment this is academic, unless Jorge decides to install a 2nd lift.
Quite by coincidence, a newly imported 1969 Duetto appeared at last Sunday's sports car club meeting. We have a number of "Kamm tails," but only two of the Osso di Seppia, including that new one. A 3rd one crashed in the mid 1980s.
I had a TR4 in 1967, and, when the Duetto came out with its 5-speed, double-overhead-cam engine, and so forth, my car felt very old-fashioned. The first one I saw was in the movie "The Graduate." The sight of that red Duetto on the San Francisco Bay Bridge, with Simon & Garfunkle in the background, still is imprinted on my brain.
Don't watch the video below, Jose. It may make you feel sad!
Best regards,
Andres
Jose is right. That's the beauty of a MaxJax. You can install another set of anchors to accommodate very narrow cars like the MG Ts (it is great that the three of us have these wonderful cars). I was just thinking, Jose, that since Jorge has all that space and no height restriction, he might be able to install a full size 2-post lift with arms long enough to take the MG and also the wider cars, without relocating the posts. But at the moment this is academic, unless Jorge decides to install a 2nd lift.
Quite by coincidence, a newly imported 1969 Duetto appeared at last Sunday's sports car club meeting. We have a number of "Kamm tails," but only two of the Osso di Seppia, including that new one. A 3rd one crashed in the mid 1980s.
I had a TR4 in 1967, and, when the Duetto came out with its 5-speed, double-overhead-cam engine, and so forth, my car felt very old-fashioned. The first one I saw was in the movie "The Graduate." The sight of that red Duetto on the San Francisco Bay Bridge, with Simon & Garfunkle in the background, still is imprinted on my brain.
Don't watch the video below, Jose. It may make you feel sad!
Best regards,
Andres
e-tek
Well-known member
No - please don't!! The more information in one thread, the ore interesting (IMHO!)
Great garage, work and insight to European life - thanks Jorge!
abstamaria
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Mg ta
I agree with e-tek, Jorge; keep all in one thread. I agree also that the insight into how things are in Portugal is really great. But the thread also emphasizes how similar car guys are all over the world.
That's a great looking TA. We have one TB here, which I think is identical to the TA, excpet for the XPAG engine. Both look very much like my TC, as the additional width of my TC is hardly noticeable. I installed stud Blockley tires on my TC - not correct for a post-war car but very racy looking!
Andres
I agree with e-tek, Jorge; keep all in one thread. I agree also that the insight into how things are in Portugal is really great. But the thread also emphasizes how similar car guys are all over the world.
That's a great looking TA. We have one TB here, which I think is identical to the TA, excpet for the XPAG engine. Both look very much like my TC, as the additional width of my TC is hardly noticeable. I installed stud Blockley tires on my TC - not correct for a post-war car but very racy looking!
Andres
Thaks e-tek. You are right, one tread only makes it much more interesting.
I was in your garage thread. Very nice your 240Z.
Jorge
Re: Mg ta
Yes Andres. Apart from the engine and some small details (like the centralized lubrification sistem on the TB) the last TA and the TB are very simililar. The TA had some small changes during its life. Mine is one of the first series. There were made around 3000 TA. The TA's were fited with MPJG engines and the TB alredy fited the XPAG like the TC.
The TB is the most rare. There were only made about 360 units. The the War begun and the production stoped.
Jorge
Yes Andres. Apart from the engine and some small details (like the centralized lubrification sistem on the TB) the last TA and the TB are very simililar. The TA had some small changes during its life. Mine is one of the first series. There were made around 3000 TA. The TA's were fited with MPJG engines and the TB alredy fited the XPAG like the TC.
The TB is the most rare. There were only made about 360 units. The the War begun and the production stoped.
Jorge
Back to the thread topic, let's talk about wall and floor finish.
After considering several solutions finally me and my architect decided to do the workshop floor with a ceramic mosaic with 60x60cm( abot 2feet x 2feet). The walls will be covered with the same ceramic mosaic but with 60x120cm tall. Here goes a photo os the floor mosaic.
Andres, i know its not white, but don't worry, no red strip.
The rest of the walls will be white with a very smooth finish.
This kind of creates an inviolable cacoon on the floor and the walls at 120cm tall (4 feet) and then tall withe walls and ceiling.
The big view will be a sober, clean and smooth look.
I think it will work...
Jorge
After considering several solutions finally me and my architect decided to do the workshop floor with a ceramic mosaic with 60x60cm( abot 2feet x 2feet). The walls will be covered with the same ceramic mosaic but with 60x120cm tall. Here goes a photo os the floor mosaic.
Andres, i know its not white, but don't worry, no red strip.
The rest of the walls will be white with a very smooth finish.
This kind of creates an inviolable cacoon on the floor and the walls at 120cm tall (4 feet) and then tall withe walls and ceiling.
The big view will be a sober, clean and smooth look.
I think it will work...
Jorge
wonderful thread so far! I love the look of the lift you plan to use they have so much more interest than a twin post,but as for functionality a twin post is hard to beat. im sure you will make the correct choice that fits your needs . As for the pool how are you removing the tiles? hammer and chisle?
Thaks Crawler07.
The tiles are being removed using hammer and chisle. It was applied 25 years ago, but still very hard to remove. Very glued and looks like glass.
I could glue the new titles on top of the old one, but I prefer to do it the right way. This way the new one will be glued at least for another 25 years.
Abot the lift I will install the scissor lift because all is alredy done for that. In the future,my needs will tell if i install a 2nd more usable 2 post lift.
Jorge
ejm1961Tbird
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Great garage and great cars - very interesting!
In the WWII picture of the 1937 MG TA, what is on the left headlight?
In the WWII picture of the 1937 MG TA, what is on the left headlight?
Thanks for asking ejm1961Tbird. I thought no one had observed the details on the WWII period photo.
During WWII , in order to prevent aiding enemy aviation bombers, in 1st September 1939 the Blackout rules were imposed to all civilians of Britain.
This Blackout rules period begun imediatly after sunset. They were applied to all source of lights, not only cars, for instance the windows on the hauses should be couvered with a blackout curtins or other type of opaque material.
On Car several rules were imposed. For instance headlights were fitted with slotted covers to deflect the beam down to the floor, or on the rear only the obligatory red light was allowed and even that should be shaded.
This rules caused several traffic accidents. Thousands of people died in consequence of that accidents and in order to the pedestrians could see the cars better, the car owners shoud paint the bumpers whithe and also a withe strip on the sides.
On my TA WWII period photo you can now identify better some of those rules appled
Love this stuff...
Jorge
JimVonBaden
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Hi Jorge,
Very impressive work so far.
My wife is also from Portugal, Torres de Borro area, and we have a condo in Lisbon. We visit at least once a year.
Jim
Very impressive work so far.
My wife is also from Portugal, Torres de Borro area, and we have a condo in Lisbon. We visit at least once a year.
Jim
ejm1961Tbird
Well-known member
Jorge,
I knew about the black-out rules during WWII, but I had no idea about the covers on the headlights with openings to point the beams downward, or the white stripes on the car. Very interesting! Thanks for sharing your great build and cars.
I knew about the black-out rules during WWII, but I had no idea about the covers on the headlights with openings to point the beams downward, or the white stripes on the car. Very interesting! Thanks for sharing your great build and cars.
Hi Jorge,
Very impressive work so far.
My wife is also from Portugal, Torres de Borro area, and we have a condo in Lisbon. We visit at least once a year.
Jim
Hi Jim. Lovely place Terras de Bouro. Lots of mountains, trees and water.
Portugueses are all around world.
Thanks for reading Jim.
Jorge
JimVonBaden
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That is the turth. My wife, who works for the Portuguese Embassy in Washington DC, and says the same all the time. There appear to be more Portuguese outside of Portugal than inside!
Jim
That is the turth. My wife, who works for the Portuguese Embassy in Washington DC, and says the same all the time. There appear to be more Portuguese outside of Portugal than inside!
Jim
Your wife is right Jim. That's the way portuguese do it for more than 500 years.
In 1499, a portuguese caled Vasco da Gama went from Portugal to India always by sea.
In 1500 Pedro Àlvares Cabral crossed the Atlantic by sea reaching Brazil.
1519 the portuguese Fernão de Magalhães serving at that time the Spanish Crown, navigated all around the world for the first time.
From then on there were portuguese in all 5 continents.
Small country in size, but people with lots of guts to do all that on small wooden ships.
Jorge
abstamaria
Well-known member
Hello, Jorge. It seems you and your architect are putting in much time and thought in planning the garage. That is a very interesting idea, and I am excited to see it applied. We used 60x60 tile too on the garage, the house, and the pool deck and coping.
What is the device on the left wing of the TA, by the LF tire?
Andres
Some trivia: Magallanes (Magellan) had on his crew an Asian sailor, captured or recruited from an earlier voyage. In the log of his last, epic voyage, Magellan wrote that the Asian sailor spoke the dialect of and knew the natives of the new islands he "discovered"for Spain - the Philippines. From that, the Asian sailor is assumed to be from the Philippines and therefore the first to have circumnavigated the globe (from the Philippines and back)! Anyway, Magallanes was killed in a battle here. His no. 2 Sebastian Elcano continued the voyage. I'm not sure if Elcano was Portuguese as well.
What is the device on the left wing of the TA, by the LF tire?
Andres
Some trivia: Magallanes (Magellan) had on his crew an Asian sailor, captured or recruited from an earlier voyage. In the log of his last, epic voyage, Magellan wrote that the Asian sailor spoke the dialect of and knew the natives of the new islands he "discovered"for Spain - the Philippines. From that, the Asian sailor is assumed to be from the Philippines and therefore the first to have circumnavigated the globe (from the Philippines and back)! Anyway, Magallanes was killed in a battle here. His no. 2 Sebastian Elcano continued the voyage. I'm not sure if Elcano was Portuguese as well.
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Hi Andres.
I alredy noticed that your garage floor is 60x60 white tile. Looks real good on your garage. Mine is darker but i think it will be nice. Let's see...
As I wrote on the post #55, the divice i think you are refering to is a cover on the light to deflect the beam down to the floor during the blackout rules on WWII.
About the cincunavigation you are absutely right. Fernão de Magalhães (Magellan) died before ending the trip on a batlle on the Mactan island. The expedition followed by the comand of the Portuguese João Lopes Carvalho and 2 months later with the Spanish Sebastian Elcano.
Probably on the crew there were several Asian sailors. Some of them Phillipines for sure. Asians and Portugueses had comercial relations for several years at that time.
Funny how the world is so small. Asians, Americans and Europeans talking about 500 years old history on the Garage Journal. I'm loving this forum...
Jorge
I alredy noticed that your garage floor is 60x60 white tile. Looks real good on your garage. Mine is darker but i think it will be nice. Let's see...
As I wrote on the post #55, the divice i think you are refering to is a cover on the light to deflect the beam down to the floor during the blackout rules on WWII.
About the cincunavigation you are absutely right. Fernão de Magalhães (Magellan) died before ending the trip on a batlle on the Mactan island. The expedition followed by the comand of the Portuguese João Lopes Carvalho and 2 months later with the Spanish Sebastian Elcano.
Probably on the crew there were several Asian sailors. Some of them Phillipines for sure. Asians and Portugueses had comercial relations for several years at that time.
Funny how the world is so small. Asians, Americans and Europeans talking about 500 years old history on the Garage Journal. I'm loving this forum...
Jorge
abstamaria
Well-known member
I meant that thing your lower right hand arrow is pointing to (below the headlight, above the license plate), Jorge.
Yes, it's a small world. The great thing about GJ is that I can drop in and comment on your build as if you were just next door.
Best regards,
Andres
Yes, it's a small world. The great thing about GJ is that I can drop in and comment on your build as if you were just next door.
Best regards,
Andres
AndrewBigA
Well-known member
Wow/ subscribed!!!
Hi!
It seems to be some kind of fog beem covered whith a rag!!!
By the way, Jorge, nice garage and great cars!
In fact is the fog light covered also because of the blackout rules. Fog lights where not allowed to be used during that period.
Best regards
Jorge
Cheburator
New member
El Cano was Basque - be careful - they are very sensitive about Basque and Spanish in Bilbao...
Btw, great thread and love the planning and execution...
abstamaria
Well-known member
Ah, a covered fog lamp. Many thanks.
So Elcano was Basque. Now I know. Many Basque settled here, and yes they always make that distinction. Not too many Portuguese though, as we fell on the side of the World given the Spanish.
Andres
So Elcano was Basque. Now I know. Many Basque settled here, and yes they always make that distinction. Not too many Portuguese though, as we fell on the side of the World given the Spanish.
Andres
ODIS
Well-known member
A very interesting thread: Challenging garage project, some home remodeling, history, a review on very collectible cars and great dialog among some very nice folks. Thank you, MG 30 for taking the time to share your build on this world-wide forum. Will be another of my "go to" threads to see how you are progressing.
Ody.
Ody.
Thanks AndreBigA
More developments on the pool
Now that stairs are made, i need to drill some holes on the concret wall to install new pipes and the water nozzles that will clean the water on the pool. I could keep the old ones but they were too old and sonner or later they would give problems
In this photo you can se the "hole" where will be installed the underwater window. On the other side of the window is the garage
The machine that was used to drill the holes for the water nozzels.
I hope that so many detailing photos doesn't transform the topic too boring.
Jorge
Now that stairs are made, i need to drill some holes on the concret wall to install new pipes and the water nozzles that will clean the water on the pool. I could keep the old ones but they were too old and sonner or later they would give problems
In this photo you can se the "hole" where will be installed the underwater window. On the other side of the window is the garage
The machine that was used to drill the holes for the water nozzels.
I hope that so many detailing photos doesn't transform the topic too boring.
Jorge
Thaks very much Ody. I'm glad you are enjoying the thread. i liked soo much some of the threads of the GJ that i felt obligated to give my contribution to this great forum.
Jorge
You are right, El Cano was Basque. My appolagies for the mistake.
One more interesting historical fact about the Blackout:
The sunset hour change a litle from day to day. To inform the civilians of the Blackout period, there were informative placards that were actualized contantly.
Jorge
The sunset hour change a litle from day to day. To inform the civilians of the Blackout period, there were informative placards that were actualized contantly.
Jorge
mbpauls
Member
Wow i cant wait to see that pool full of water looks like it is going to be very nice and you have quite the collection going on.
Jorge
The all of your topics are interesting, including the hole boring. please keep posting and adding commentary.
It is always interesting to see how people around the world accomplish tasks, sometimes the same and some times differently, and I never know which it is until it is shared.
The all of your topics are interesting, including the hole boring. please keep posting and adding commentary.
It is always interesting to see how people around the world accomplish tasks, sometimes the same and some times differently, and I never know which it is until it is shared.
Maybe you would like to see some of my hand tools. I buy USAG tools brand. Very good reputation here in Europe and qualitity acording to that reputation.Life warranty.
Some of them were out off place or missing on the the tool cart but you can see the "picture"
Jorge
Some of them were out off place or missing on the the tool cart but you can see the "picture"
Jorge