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Urrea Screwdrivers - First Impressions

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I noticed that HD was selling Urrea (pronounced: oo-ray-uh) screwdrivers, so ordered myself a set of these Vato Locos. They are very reasonably priced; the most expensive of the set you see here was $2.69, the cheaptest was $2.01.

As you may know, Urrea is the Mexican Proto. They used to be a single company, then split apart at some point. (If anyone knows when please let me know.) Urrea continues to put out a lot of "classic" Proto designs, and these are like finding NOS Proto yellow-handles which they called "Bet'r-Grip" as early as 1954. They were produced by Proto through at least 1979, at which time they were unceremoniously called "Plastic Handle." [Edit: No, I see mention of them as far as 1981.] You can still find original Proto yellow-handles at the markets, but all the Philips #2s are thrashed, of course. Here they are, resurrected.

Now, this is probably a good place to pause, and wait for everyone to get their Urrea/urea/yellow jokes out of the way.

(Waiting.)

Done with the potty humor? OK then. Onward we go.

First impressions are very positive. The handles feel excellent, and are a "quality" smooth plastic, they don't feel or look cheap to my hand or eye. They are a hot, glowing yellow, as you can see; should be easy to find. I always liked the feel of the Bet'r Grips (have a number in my classic Proto collection) because they're deeply fluted, but relatively slim. (I don't like fat square grips.) Easy to spin, but also easy to grip. Plus, I often have to work into corners where a fat grip just gets in the way, so slim's generally best for me.

The shafts are nicely satin-chromed, with some sort of anti-slip somethingorother on the tips. On one 'driver it was applied crooked on one side. I felt lucky Urrea offered a square-shank standard, which is my preference. Throw an adjustable wrench on that Ese and crank it good, Mang.

I admit I have a pro-Mexico tool bias (part of my pro-North America bias). Americans treat Mexico like a backwater, but it is (or was recently) the seventh richest large country in the world. [EDIT: Now ranked 11th.] It's wealthier than Canada. It's 3x as wealthy as Saudi Arabia! No reason to think they can't manufacture quality.

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Now, do they have good tips, or soft as butter? I'll let you know. Let me put these Vatos to work for awhile and I'll report back.
 
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The Stanley buyout of Proto Usa in 1984 ended the deal with ProtoMex. They were allowed to continue using the design of the tools but had to change the name.

I own 3 transition era wrenches double marked Proto (in the oval shape) and Urrea.
 

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I also picked up a set of the drivers from HD. They have held up fine from some light use, but I have to admit when my hands are greasy/sweaty/wet they slip very easily. I am interested to see what your experiments show!

(My two hammers and ratchet I picked up are fantastic for the price).
 
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The Stanley buyout of Proto Usa in 1984 ended the deal with ProtoMex. They were allowed to continue using the design of the tools but had to change the name.

I own 3 transition era wrenches double marked Proto (in the oval shape) and Urrea.

Oh, it was part of the Ingersoll-Rand sale, then. OK, cool, thanks for the quick reply. Don't be shy about posting up a photo if your dual marked Proto/Urrea. I've never seen that, and would like to.
 

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I bet! They are a smooth plastic. I'd imagine they'd be like holding a fish when they're oily.

Pretty much, but as long as I keep that in mind and grab something else for stuff like they are nice. Pretty good for electronic work and such. A good value for the money.
 

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Funny but every time my MSC catalog comes in the mail they are always pushing the urrea brand, the prices seem very reasonable. I don't know how good they are maybe other members can tell us more about them.
 

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Well that's a PISS poor name, isn't it?! LOL!! (I know, I know - but someone had to...)
 
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Well that's a PISS poor name, isn't it?! LOL!! (I know, I know - but someone had to...)

Finally! Was waiting for someone to break the tension and make a urine joke.

In previous threads I have seen people say they would not own this brand just because of the name. Normally I would say that's pretty crazy, but the dude is one of my good friends on this forum so I'll stifle myself. (cough cough bull cough cough cough.) At least he won't steal my drivers.

I don't get involved with that company because they have a terrible name. Just one "di" away from sounding like something I want no part of.
 
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Etek, that is probably the first good joke on the name. And there have been a lot of them.

The pic as requested: Two single marked and two dual marked.
 

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So are they really Hencho en Mexico or Taiwan? There has been some mention on other threads that the company has outsourced some production.
 

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Finally! Was waiting for someone to break the tension and make a urine joke.

In previous threads I have seen people say they would not own this brand just because of the name. Normally I would say that's pretty crazy, but the dude is one of my good friends on this forum so I'll stifle myself. (cough cough bull cough cough cough.) At least he won't steal my drivers.

Ah, my old quote made me laugh.

Looking at your new pics, I was attracted to the tools and able to look past the name; they look like these lemon cough lozenges that my gramma gave me as a kid; fond memories.

And, is it any crazier to avoid a brand because of the name than to seek one out because of the name? Hello, King **** anyone?!

I appreciate your perspective on Mexican tools, btw.

Good to see you and GMonkee at the same time!
 
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Looking at your new pics, I was attracted to the tools and able to look past the name; they look like these lemon cough lozenges that my gramma gave me as a kid; fond memories.

Well...I had not thought of that! Perhaps they would be good for an oral fixation, I'll give them a try...

MMmmf! Foof goof im my mouf! Wemmony!

:lol_hitti

Who says we don't put our tools to extreme tests here at GJ?

Hey, at least these handles SMELL GOOD, not like my PB Swiss red ones, aka the "baby barf PB swiss" style.

(GEEZ Bull look at your post count! We were even two years ago!)

So are they really Hencho en Mexico or Taiwan? There has been some mention on other threads that the company has outsourced some production.

Oh, these are proudly Hecho, you can even just barely see the word MEXICO in the photo, check the second driver down.
 
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I have about 35 or so Urrea screwdrivers (ordering mistake) I use them as my beater screwdrivers and do a lot of regular screwdriver stuff with them too. they have held up awesome, both at my job as a truck engine mechanic and at home renovating my house. They are comfortable and the yellow is slightly off from the Proto versions. I would buy again and recommend to anyone. Mine are stamped Mexico.
 
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Bolster,
I have two screwdrivers with the Proto shaped handles and marked Bet'r Grip, but the handles are clear plastic with silver metalflake in the plastic. Maybe made for the ladies ? Do you remember me from the other tool site ?
Gort.

Sure Gort, how ya doin'. Hard to forget a giant robot. Did you have the same or different name on the other site? Am I getting you confused with Evil Dr? Evil was a great guy and sold me some excellent swag. If that was you, thanks.

Regards the glitter Proto drivers: Whoa! Never seen nor heard of. Awesome snag. Can we see pictures?

...they have held up awesome, both at my job as a truck engine mechanic and at home renovating my house. They are comfortable and the yellow is slightly off from the Proto versions. I would buy again and recommend to anyone...

Aha--thanks for the report! Roger re: the color, the Urreas are more "toxic yellow" whereas the Protos were more "schoolhouse pencil yellow."
 
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The Urrea P#2 was in my hand all day yesterday (for locksmithing duty, which requires a lot of off-angle turning) and I'm pleased to report that the tips do NOT appear to be soft. I have a general idea of what a soft tip is like (from No-name and Cman screwdrivers) and I also own PB Swiss, Felo, Snap-on, Williams, & Wiha P#2 drivers, for comparison.

The tip of the Urrea P#2 is still feeling crisp, although there are now bright spots showing through the black "traction" material they put on the tip. My other "black traction coated" P#2s (from PB Swiss, Wihi & Felo) show the same wear patterns and bright edges. Wear-through is less noticeable on the "grey traction coated" material on the SO and Williams.

So far it is performing more like an upscale, than a downscale, screwdriver. My personal opinion is that all P#2 drivers, regardless of mfgr, are "disposables" and just don't hold up very long. But some are far worse than others.
 
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Would you be adverse to taking a photo of the PH2 next to a quarter or a Pepsi so as one may judge size of the grip?
 

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I just put in an order for the 19 piece set. For the price I'm willing to give them a try. Proto wants 3 times the price for their new version of this set. For that much difference I'm thinking I'll try the brand-new circa mid-80's set by this former Proto subsidiary.

I'll report back here on my impressions and how they work out.

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Other drivers would probably supply a better comparison, no?

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Here's a closeup of the tips. By far my worst tip is the Wiha Insulated. It cams out of virtually everything. You can see it came from the factory with rounded corners on the tip, and an extended "snout" on the tip that I think must hold it out further of the screwslot. The Wiha gets little use due to electric-only duty, but it's by far the least satisfying of the "upscale" drivers I own.

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I'm not claiming that the Urreas are "the best drivers ever" or anything close to that. (My favorite is actually the PB Swiss.) The Urrea has no anti-cam-out ridges, for example. And you can see in the photo that the Urrea is a little "rougher" in its manufacture than the more expensive drivers. Definitely a no-frills handle (which I happen to like, as it spins easily due to its slimmer profile).

I'm simply saying they appear to be good quality for a "budget" driver, and I like that you can order a single driver without having to order an entire set, for a reasonable price ($3). And, I also like that it is of North American manufacture (Altamira, Mexico, due south of the tip of Texas).
 
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I think your Wiha is a No. 1 tip and the others are No. 2.

That's how it looks, right? I agree. And it ACTS like a #1-1/2, if such a thing existed. But I actually bought a #1 Wihi in the same set and it is smaller yet. And you can see that the Wiha is plainly labeled PH2. But I definitely take your point, and agree. Many times I've wished I owned a Wiha 2-1/2, so it would perform better in #2 slots. It's like my Wihas are a half size off.
 
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I admit I have a pro-Mexico tool bias (part of my pro-North America bias). Americans treat Mexico like a backwater, but it is (or was recently) the seventh richest large country in the world. [EDIT: Now ranked 11th.] It's wealthier than Canada. It's 3x as wealthy as Saudi Arabia! No reason to think they can't manufacture quality.

I have no problems buying mexican tools. If its a good quality its good quality but that ranking is based on GDP alone, or final goods and serivces produce. It doesn't take into account GDP per person which would have been a better inicator as canada and saudi arabia have realitvly small populations. (33 and 28 million compaired to 112) Also doesn't take into account standard of living which could be measured by HDI (human developement index)
 

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You convinced me. Next month's tool budget is all Urrea. This month's got blown on an iPhone and Volkswagen parts. Oops.
 

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I see those handles all the time under the names Pretul, Proto, Urrea and Foy-Gelb.
I would rather have that Felo woodie or better a set. Wood handles just say something nice to me.
 

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Mexico manufactured is ok by me. Mexico buys lots of US goods (as does Canada) and if we trade fairly with our neighbors perhaps illegal immigration will slow down a bit.

I have one Urrea wrench that I found at a yard sale and it was pretty crusty but I do need some new screwdrivers as you can't do everything with a bit driver. I plan on trying the Urrea drivers.

Thank you for the review
 
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I'm posting this photo on behalf of Gort. He owns these vintage glitter-style Bet'r Grip Proto screwdrivers. I have never seen anything like these before. Pretty cool.

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Thank you for the tip comparison! Most photos online are so small you can barely tell it's a screwdriver, heh. Gonna get some PB Swiss eventually.
 
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Thank you for the tip comparison! Most photos online are so small you can barely tell it's a screwdriver, heh. Gonna get some PB Swiss eventually.

I know! I think marketers think that the handle is the most important part of the screwdriver.

I like sharp square profiles on my P#2 tips. As you can see virtually all of the high quality drivers have them. Then there's the Wiha on the right, and the edges of the bit are all rounded (from the factory).

I also threw a calipers on the tips and the Wiha are definitely undersized, compared to the others. No wonder it cams out all the time.
 

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Bolster,

Thanks for the excellent review on these screwdrivers. I came pretty close to dropping almost twice the price on a comparable set of Williams drivers before I found the Urrea set at HD and found this thread. The lower price is appealing, as are the bright yellow handles...theoretically harder to lose. Now that you have had the drivers for a few months, and hopefully put some more miles on them, how are they holding up?
 
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