shooting4life
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First post here. I recently purchased our first home. I'm not much of a shop guy but a big gun guy. My safe could be seen any time I opened the garage so I built a cabinet around it.
Now you need to casually stencil "THERE ARE NO GUNS IN THIS CABINET" across the front. They will never look there.Kidding. Looks good. Out of sight, out of mind. I have a similar but different problem. My garage is well organized and stocked with expensive tools.... and the garage door is open whenever I am out there. Hard to stick the larger tools/equipment in a cabinet out of sight.
Out of sight, out of mind. I have a similar but different problem. My garage is well organized and stocked with expensive tools.... and the garage door is open whenever I am out there. Hard to stick the larger tools/equipment in a cabinet out of sight.

First post here. I recently purchased our first home. I'm not much of a shop guy but a big gun guy. My safe could be seen any time I opened the garage so I built a cabinet around it.
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Shooting4life, if it were my cabinet, I'd:
A. Lock it - Those ammo cans walking off would ****. Remember that you are responsible for all weapons and ammo in your possession and can be found liable if a round or weapon stolen from your house is used in a crime. At least that's how it is in IL.
so in IL. some jackwade breaks into my house steals guns and ammo and gets out without getting shoot.then goes and shoots somebody that i'm liable.what about if somebody steals my car and runs over somebodyor steals my toolbox and uses my snap on hammer to beat somebody to death with it thats my fault too,
said it before but damm i'm proud i live in the south.
Shooting4life, if it were my cabinet, I'd:
A. Lock it - Those ammo cans walking off would ****. Remember that you are responsible for all weapons and ammo in your possession and can be found liable if a round or weapon stolen from your house is used in a crime. At least that's how it is in IL.
B. Wire in a VERY loud siren or a home alarm door open sensor and a hidden on/off switch. I.E. wire the switch over behind the mini-fridge so no one will see it or think about it. The home alarm sensor could work VERY well if you wire it/set it in a way that it is always armed unless you specifically shut it off. Then, if you are ever forced to open the safe, you can open the cabinet (or the actual safe itself) and that will notify the police automatically.
I plan on adding a motion sensor security camera that faces the safe in the garage
Shooting4life, if it were my cabinet, I'd:
A. Lock it - Those ammo cans walking off would ****. Remember that you are responsible for all weapons and ammo in your possession and can be found liable if a round or weapon stolen from your house is used in a crime. At least that's how it is in IL.
so in IL. some jackwade breaks into my house steals guns and ammo and gets out without getting shoot.then goes and shoots somebody that i'm liable.what about if somebody steals my car and runs over somebodyor steals my toolbox and uses my snap on hammer to beat somebody to death with it thats my fault too,
said it before but damm i'm proud i live in the south.
That is why I want to get the F*** out of Communist Controlled Chicago Democratic Illinois!!! We are planning on moving within 5 years.. TX or AZ on the list for now.. I'm sure as we keep looking, we might add others to explore.
Burtonrider10022, you shoot any IDPA/IPSC/USPSA/3gun matches in the area? If you do, then we've probably run into each otherIf not, you should!! Lots of fun
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That is why I want to get the F*** out of Communist Controlled Chicago Democratic Illinois!!! We are planning on moving within 5 years.. TX or AZ on the list for now.. I'm sure as we keep looking, we might add others to explore.
Burtonrider10022, you shoot any IDPA/IPSC/USPSA/3gun matches in the area? If you do, then we've probably run into each otherIf not, you should!! Lots of fun
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good god no, I'm luck if I have time to sleep let alone hit the range. Full time job w/ ~10-20 hrs OT + part time job + full time student (brick and mortar, no online) = not enough time for guns :-(
Although I may (or may not, if "she" is asking) have bought a lower receiver two nights ago... Black Friday sales FTW lol
PM me though about the matches, over break and during the summer I'd love to get involved. I'm by no means a top shot but I am pretty good.
Shooting4life, if it were my cabinet, I'd:
A. Lock it - Those ammo cans walking off would ****. Remember that you are responsible for all weapons and ammo in your possession and can be found liable if a round or weapon stolen from your house is used in a crime. At least that's how it is in IL.
so in IL. some jackwade breaks into my house steals guns and ammo and gets out without getting shoot.then goes and shoots somebody that i'm liable.what about if somebody steals my car and runs over somebodyor steals my toolbox and uses my snap on hammer to beat somebody to death with it thats my fault too,
said it before but damm i'm proud i live in the south.
So not to derail this conversation, but after 15 minutes of Googling I can't turn up any state or federal statues that reflect this, lest of all any in Illinois or the Chicago area specifically. The handful of relevant results that DID come up were all civil cases that ultimately were defeated or dismissed.
In several states you *can* break *a* law if you fail to report a weapon as stolen within a reasonable timeframe and it is used in the commission of a crime, which in all but the most narrow interpretations is a reasonable expectation of a responsible gun owner. But again, nothing about being liable for the crimes committed with the weapon.
Some states have laws requiring you to secure your firearms in some way (either trigger locks, gun safes, etc), register them annually, etc., but again, nothing that states if the gun is stolen you are liable for the crimes committed with it.
If somebody can cite an actual statue or code somewhere that defines this, please do so. Heresay with laws like this pisses me off. People are incited enough to parrot what they hear from somebody's brother's third cousin's husband (or Fox News, which is roughly the same thing), but they can't be bothered to check it out for themselves.

Oh yea...I feel it coming IBTL
I don't think an individual can be held responsible if someone breaks into that individuals home, steals ammos and guns, then commits a crime with said weapons. If that was the case, the prisons would be so full of innocent people that half the population would be locked up. About the only time an individual can be held responsible for someone else's actions with a firearm is if the individual is irresponsible with it and a minor, child, gets that firearm, plays with it and shoots someone else. And that is usually within the confines of the home.
Your cabinet/safe looks great and the precautions you've taken are more than enough already. Well done.The cabinet is locked. The inside of the left door also has a cane lock as well. In california we just have to keep kids from getting to our stuff. Seeing as how I don;t have any kids that should not be a problem.
Also, I plan on adding a motion sensor security camera that faces the safe in the garage that send updates to my phone when activated. I also am going to add a couple of fire sprinklers above the cabinet, but that will be further down the road.
I've seen several guys rocking the Gladiator Garage cabinets, but does anybody have any of the newer Kobalt cabinets from Lowes in place? To me they look equally as cool as the Gladiator stuff, and the prices I've seen on them haven't been too terrible. Was curious if anybody wanted to comment on how well they hold up, quality, etc.
Seems like an entire thread could be devoted to ikea items repurposed for shop use. I found this solution to keep my wrenches from sliding when closing the drawers. Cheap, low profile and just strong enough. Some magnetic knife holder, with a name I cannot pronounce nor spell despite my Scandinavian ancestry.
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Seems like an entire thread could be devoted to ikea items repurposed for shop use. I found this solution to keep my wrenches from sliding when closing the drawers. Cheap, low profile and just strong enough. Some magnetic knife holder, with a name I cannot pronounce nor spell despite my Scandinavian ancestry.
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That's an old Clodbuster R/C.
Remember, he was referring to "Bizarro-World", ie Illinois. People deserve what they get for living there...
He is a loathsome, offensive brute, yet I can’t look away.
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Great piece of garage art.3/4 shelves and melamine face frame and doors.
He is a loathsome, offensive brute, yet I can’t look away.
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