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Craftsman 154 pc. tool set VS. Stanley 201 pc. tool set

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I'm lookin at some new tool sets to buy and at first I thought the C-Man 154 piece is a good deal for around $100, but now I'm thinking that by the time I have to take a broken piece back for warranty Sears will be all China-Man by then. I heard that the Stanley 201 piece is actually not bad and it cost less than the C-Man 154 pc.
 
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I'm lookin at some new tool sets to buy and at first I thought the C-Man 154 piece is a good deal for around $100, but now I'm thinking that by the time I have to take a broken piece back for warranty Sears will be all China-Man by then. I heard that the Stanley 201 piece is actually not bad and it cost less than the C-Man 154 pc.

Craftsman set all the way the 09-35154 sell like crazy i sold 4 sets today Its a great set at a great price. The sockets that come in it arent the crappy easy read ones its the regular ones that I love
 

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Even though I am a truck tool junkie, I will tell the truth from experience. For the money, the Stanley tools are not bad. They are imported, some Cman is still made here, so I lean towards Cman for that reason, but...............I bought "lowly" Stanley tools for my truck box because I didn't want high end tools stolen :lol: The Stanley ratchets are fairly well made, internals looked good. I have used to tools hard, they seem fine.

If you are making an investment in a master tool set for long term use, get the Cman, if you need a durable affordable tool to get this and that done, the Stanley is decent for the money and origin.

You have to mail the Stanley tools to Stanley for replacement, Cman you can goto Sears.

Walmart sells the 201 pc. Stanley set for 69.99 :shocking: Alot of durable tools for the money...........Husky is also Stanley and Home Depot will exchange them. Husky and Stanley are similar to Blackhawk.........Stanley is Proto and MAC also..............the internals of the Stanley look just like the MAC ratchets inside :shocking:

Stanley is a great tool for the money. Good luck
 

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The biggest plus to the Stanley set is, the ratchets are better than the low end raised panel Cman ones. I have a take with Cman set, and Stanley set..........honestly the Stanley set is much higher end feeling than the Cman. If you campared the Stanley to upgraded Cman ratchets I would change my mind. Base set to base set. The Stanley trumps the Cman here in that respect. :dunno: If country of origin doesn't matter get the Stanley, and for the price of the Cman you could add some longer extensions, FAT MAXX pliers, add on wrenches, ans some other odds and ends........the best "China" tools are Stanley, GearWrench and Blue Point.........
 

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stanley sent me a new ratchet,no questions asked,their customer service is fantastic

Yes! I had an extendable 3/8 drive ratchet, I had it for 12 years, and finally frigged up the handle...mailed it to them, they promptly sent me a new one. It was a 12 buck ratchet that held up to some serious torque...the internals didn't break. The detent for the extendable handle locked up..... it is still on of my favorites, a 3/8 ratchet that extends to about 16 inches.....
 

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I'll echo the others, the Stanley stuff isn't bad. I've got a bunch I bought in smaller sets about 15 years ago. All has been fine, except the 1/2" ratchet which started skipping. Cleaned the guts, no obvious problems... not sure why it skips.
 
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I might just be better off getting the Stanley set...I wanted to buy some new USA tools for the new year,but I guess I could get some good used ones at the flea market after I buy the Stanley set.
 

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Yes! I had an extendable 3/8 drive ratchet, I had it for 12 years, and finally frigged up the handle...mailed it to them, they promptly sent me a new one. It was a 12 buck ratchet that held up to some serious torque...the internals didn't break. The detent for the extendable handle locked up..... it is still on of my favorites, a 3/8 ratchet that extends to about 16 inches.....

i dont think i have ever seen one,neat:beer:.my ratchet return was just a 1/4 drive,i dont know if it is a different policy now,but they just sent me a new one,i didnt have to send anything back.i was shocked but in a good way
 

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I'd personally get the Craftsman set and then upgrade the ratchets to one of the many, many popular choices on the forum.
 

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if the craftsmans are usa then get them and upgrade the ratchets. funny fact though, my craftsman socket set, my snap on standard 3/8" fits the place the RP and has been in that spot since.

i bet other ratchets would fit in the same place. makes upgrades nice so it all stays together.
 
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I'd personally get the Craftsman set and then upgrade the ratchets to one of the many, many popular choices on the forum.

Seems like the most ideal way to do it in my mind. Grab a ratchet you like and you're good to go, sell what you don't want.
 

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Long time user of a Stanley black chrome set. In a full time mechanic job no less.
The coloring is wearing off the sockets some and that is the worst problem I have had.

I'd have to go Stanley, the ratchets are as faultlessly good as day one of use, no sockets broken, ill fitting or defective in an other manner. Just good solid user tools.
Not many say that about their new CM socket sets straight out of the box. Then having to replace the ratchets right away just seems wrong.
 
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Seems like Stanley tools are a lot better than most people think. Funny thing is last week I was helping my neighbor install his garage opener and he had HF wrenches and had the nerve to say Stanley doesn't make good tools.

I looked at his wrenches and they said "INDIA".
 
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If I had to start over again today and needed a few things to make a living with the Sears is ok but the Stanely is good and cheap, I would seriously have to consider this, available at Walmart. I hve been using some of the allen and tork type stuff from there lately. At 70$ it makes them near disposable in cost.
 

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You can get the Craftsman for $75 right now. Online for $80 then use SEARS2012 and get another $5 off
 

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I've had good luck with my Stanley set I got on clearance at Walmart several years ago , long before I was aware of COO issues. I don't use them in a professional environment but the have held up well. Cost has always been a big issue for me and they are very accessible too. It would be nice to be able to walk into a store and warranty on the spot though.
 

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Long time user of a Stanley black chrome set. In a full time mechanic job no less.
The coloring is wearing off the sockets some and that is the worst problem I have had.

I'd have to go Stanley, the ratchets are as faultlessly good as day one of use, no sockets broken, ill fitting or defective in an other manner. Just good solid user tools.
Not many say that about their new CM socket sets straight out of the box. Then having to replace the ratchets right away just seems wrong.

Well, not just me, I guess Stanley is MAC tools "Blue Point" line, just sold in stores...................really, lol..... It is not a fluke, Stanley may be king of the cheap non-USA tools. :lol_hitti Some Stanely stuff, like some of the Fat Maxx tools, and boxes are made here.

Glad we are being honest and no lying to save face. I love truck brand tools, but....................I'll give credit where it is deserved. :thumbup:
 

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I've had good luck with my Stanley set I got on clearance at Walmart several years ago , long before I was aware of COO issues. I don't use them in a professional environment but the have held up well. Cost has always been a big issue for me and they are very accessible too. It would be nice to be able to walk into a store and warranty on the spot though.

Part of the reason for this type of tool is not to worry, even notice the more expensive the more problems and the higher the worry factor?

The cheap tool has afforded work that never could have been done, it has been a boon to industry, especially ag and small biz. I still see places too stupid to tool men up even at 15$, if you are in business can march right down to the discount store and buy your way out of a lot of problems in a hurry. If you are poor and need to make a living, how does it do anyone any good to sap some poor ******* with hundreds in payments mostly go to the rich anyway, credit, hi sales margins,

I got no issue if someone wants to fork up a hundred dollars for a 3/4 end wrench but buyer beware, ranks up there with might as well play a lottery ticket. If you are in business you can earn money with your tools no doubt, but rate of return, reliability, exposure to theft loss, no way would I take the hi road today for every hard line item, if it was about useful value it would be Walmart all the way.

Some of it comes off the same line in different package,,, even in the same stores and if you can give up the absolute top tier brand etc. Sales and quality and cost are 3 different issues. Look at hand can openers sometime in walmart, its super because its simple and with about 7 items can see it all. The quality was the best in the cheapest and the most expensive, in fact is the same unit. The cheap one had a plain grip and was the base model for what must be several re brands with different grips.

One of the toasters at Menards is the same way, they must figure no one really buys many 13$ ones, they shop up a little but its the same unit as the 39$ one with a different trim, some products different box, different warranty etc, you name it.

Hand tools the same way, someone in Asia makes this wrench, its the base model, Stanly looked at them, they do not want to be warranty center,,, like the can opener with walmart,,, especially on many cheap items, there is engineering that can see the difference, one thickness in the stamping, etc, the sheet metal in the 13$ generic toaster was way better than the 25$ B&D and has outlasted 3 or 4 of them not to mention one that about killed me.

Same with the Stanley,,, blank wrench,,, they didn't make a cheaper one for Walmart, same one,,, the branding people take the same wrench and logo, finish it up a pinch maybe, promote its warranty with spit, sponsor races, fuel trucks, thats great they pay some big execs, some bankers, everyone gets a sliver thats for sure and it has its place, that is a different issue than how good is the wrench,,, I would say for 3$ compared to one of the list prices we see of 105,,, less than the sales tax in my state a guy can use a world class tool. Blindfolded no way, no how a guy would know the difference, blind man couldn't tell them apart, strongest man on earth couldn't bend the handle especially in normal service and when we put an additional 2 ft the other day with a cheater handle on a 5$ wrench, it works, multiple times the possible human un assisted manpower let alone the avg mechanic its a joke to think otherwise in millions of cases where a cheap wrench was sufficient to the task.

If I had to hire on a couple temps, if I had to have to add 5 grand to this in tools you don't think it would be a factor. Same can be said for waxing the 5 grand investment and fussing over it,,, heard many of times,, its a shame they treat it like that,,,, to me,,,, looks well used, was depreciated out 10 yrs ago and since they obviously didn't do much maint they going to replace it.

With that thought here is how I come to this conclusion,,, torx and hex bits and combination wrenches first but needed replacements for lost damage or needed them on the spot, bought sets off the shelf when snapco was 200 for 15 with the thought,,, I will upgrade,,, well low and behold some sets still in truck/farm shop service a decade later

Some other cheap tools have place and they cant seem to get exact or don't understand the tool, a pair of generic lineman's, diagonals, they work, they work good until you get to really abusive work, cutting hardened wire, screws on occasion, the jaws dull way sooner, a daily user needs a Diamond or Klein, Channeloks are the same, even knockoffs do not have the exact same geometry and jaw life in severe service. They save the day in some places but the durability is limited. Adjustable wrenches is a place where a last stand happened, lots of branded or semi branded picked up the right blank, I bought a 4 piece set on sale ATD off the shelf at auto parts one day just for giggles, 16$, every one flawless, as good as any and I actually like the 12 better than the dozen proto or dozen Diamond, several ridgids. some craftsman, if I had to take one I wouldn't discriminate if they were laid out on the bench.
 

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Ever notice how 2 guys can buy the same truck, one buys the unit closer to baseline and the next spends an extra 10K on it swears his is far superior based on the fact it cost more,,, like its a different truck. Lots of equipment is a base unit with dressing, fridges, same hardware under the jacket in many cases.

I bet who makes Stanley now makes the new Craftsman,,, hahaha, except sears has them cheapen it. The Stanley is the good one.

I will agree a few suspension guys on cars have a couple specific wrenches they might abuse but for the rest of the world these tools are lightly loaded or sitting in a box. It may be blunt to say but anyone that is spalining not using this stuff when the need arises as some kind of value or that it isn't sufficient or worthy of their polish is all fine for collectors, the company, the bank is full of ****. A 30$ set of wrenches in the hand it worth a 700$ one on 10 wish lists.

I have bought sets of these for specific uses, put in trucks etc, had them fully pay for themselves the next day in one incident. Twice in a week in particular. I remember I was a super for a service company, something happened, I went to the store next day, found a dozen pair of channeloks on sale, bought 5 good 12 inch adjust ables, couple vise grips and some big azzed wrench rolls for like 40 a pop and that was robbery from a local hardware,, ha. I seen the stuff later, they had long term operators it was neat to see how some of those hand tools survived for years, even the 3 or 4 wrenches the truck really needed still floating around.
 

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Heck the biggest loser tool in the market,,, both for the consumer and to the company is the Sears ratchet, about useless no matter what the price,,, like how much would have it cost to make it semi service worthy like the Walmart tool, 50 cents, maybe a buck tops. Of all the marketing schemes they come up with they should have the re-introduction of the improved ratchet. All the wrenches and sockets with a few exceptions, maybe they fix the sockets but they work as expected. I got new ratchets no better than the old, new right out of the box, just never right. I got a NAPA about the same speed and in comparison the Taiwan that replaced them have been flawless and still only half worn out with absolutely no maintenance.
 

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I'm lookin at some new tool sets to buy and at first I thought the C-Man 154 piece is a good deal for around $100, but now I'm thinking that by the time I have to take a broken piece back for warranty Sears will be all China-Man by then. I heard that the Stanley 201 piece is actually not bad and it cost less than the C-Man 154 pc.

I think you are over thinking it, and reading to much on this forum. If you do not abuse them the tool will not brake. I have not broken any sockets from craftsman or extension or ratchet. Use the right size drive for the right nut size, and do not put cheater bars on them. And you will be fine.

If you want a good asian set, go for a lowes kobalt set. The ratchet in their sets are much nicer then the craftsman or stanley one.
 

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I put 2 ft of extra extension on a craftsman 3/4 end wrench a couple days ago, worked. There was some time we broke a few Craftsman sockets, mostly right out of the box when they did break, just enough to be annoying. 20 yrs ago, maybe more could get 9 pieced deep 3/8 drive on sale for 10$, or so. A couple times in my career loaded up on hand tools, big sets from Craftsman. Several extra socket sets, they were so cheap it didnt pay to buy singles for duplication.

Even combo wrench sets, could buy 3/8 to 3/4 for 10 on sale, USA, warranty. Probably bought half a dozen maybe more of those alone at one point. Singles were 3.
 
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