Griotts garage lighting

[mikeyr]

I am in the final stages of my dream shop and planning for lights.

I got this flyer from Griotts pushing their tri-phosphor light http://www.griotsgarage.com/product/13093.do?code=EMRBQ and I like what I read about it from Griotts but I find very little else about it on the net.

I also know that Griotts does not make lights so he gets them somewhere else most likely MUCH cheaper. From web surfing, I am fairly sure these are Color-Gard 50 lights but is it a normal fixture or some special fixture, I can't find out. Also the Color-Gard 50's appear to be T-12's with non-electronic ballasts, I was planning on going with lots of Home Depot T-8's probably 8 2 lamp fixtures with a 4 lamp fixture over the workbench, these Griotts light sound good and everything I have read about them makes me thing that for my old aging eyes, these are better.

But where to them cheaper ?

 

[rockwithjason]

well it's hard to tell from the pic but those look like T5 lamps. T5's are bright and they use electronic ballasts. i would look into T5's with the same color temperature and see if you like those. you can order those from any supply house.

 

[sparky1562]

It's not a T5, but biax or twin tube lamps. I have not seen a shop light like this that uses biax lamps. Biax lamps will have more light output in a smaller package, which is what they are selling. Nothing really special about higher color rendering lamps, just cost more. I don't know much about the actual fixture, that is what your paying for.

The picture does not look like twin tubes, I agree.

If you have never seen or used 5000 K lamps, you might not like them. Very white, approaching natural day light. I like 4100 personally.

 

[d110pickup]

I'm pretty sure those are T5HO lamps & fixtures and I think this is the fixture.
http://www.aeilighting.com/t5l234.htm
Check it out and see what you think. The T5HO aluminum series.
I don't have an idea where the bulbs come from.
Mike

 

[sparky1562]

The one in the Griotts link specificaly says it is the twin tube version of there T5 fixture.

I would probably lean towards a T5 or T5HO 4ft version. I would like to see how they are mounting the biax lamp and supporting the far end. That picture on Griotts is not a biax lamp and they don't have any details. I wondeer who makes it for them.

 

[Dale]

It is a T5 fixture with a newer style lamp. Just do a Google search on the word "triphosphor." One place is the GE Lamp site: http://www.gelighting.com/apo/products/lighting/fluorescent/01.htm, the fixture seems to match this: http://www.aeilighting.com/t5l234.htm

 

[mikeyr]

That may have been one of my problems finding it, I googled tri-phosphor as per the Griotts web site and not triphosphor. I agree that the aelighting.com light looks the same and I have already asked them for more information (including price).

As to the other comment about maybe not liking 5000K lamps, i don't know, I have no idea. I just know that as I get older, I find it harder to see things without nice bright lights, in my current shop I have been known to go outside in the sunshine to clearly see things. In my new shop I planned on putting lots of T8's and thought 2 or 3 of these fixtures would help if they are as bright as claimed.

 

[swgray]

The six tube lights are T-8's. Since the 2 tube is a small version of the 6 tube, I'd think they'd also use T-8's in that fixture.

from Griot's: The six T8 fluorescent lamps produce 21,246 lumen even when mounted to a 9 foot ceiling this fixture produces over 150 foot-candles of light on a 42" high bench! (item#13014)

Either way, they seem a bit pricey for a 2 bulb shoplight type of fixture. I do like the daylight spectrum bulbs, as I have them myself. T12's 8 foot length, though.

 

[sparky1562]

It is a T5 fixture with a newer style lamp.

From the link:
"These are the same as the professional, high quality tri-phosphor, 5000 degrees Kelvin fluorescent 6-Tube Lights that we sell, but in a compact, twin tube design."

This particular fixture, in the link is not indicated to be a T5, but a biax lamp. That is what is confusing. The picture is not of a biax lamp. I think it is to expensive anyway. Something like a Columbia KL4-4 is a tank and will get the job done.

http://www.columbia-ltg.com/products/kl.html

 

[rickairmedic]

OK even if the powerball ticket inmy pocket is the right one there is still no way in hell I would pay $170.00 for a light fixture for my garage . I have 7 2 tube 4 footers and one 4 tube 4 footer . I have 6500 K bulbs in them and am quite happy and probably dont have that much ******* in all of them .


Rick

 

[mikeyr]

I agree way too expensive but while i usually can find what he sells this time I could not without help.

I need to start playing with lights as the build is happening.

 

[parish8]

i have always been a fan of the old school 8' ho. they are bright, cheap and light in the cold. i put 8 of them up in my garage 5 years ago and since then have only had to replace one light bulb. i spend a lot of time out there too.

i have put this exact fixture in a couple of other home shops for other people and they seem to like them too. this link is for ones without reflectors but you can get ones with reflectors if thats what you want.

http://www.homedepot.com/webapp/wcs...langId=-1&catalogId=10053&productId=100191284

 

[EPA7]

I realize this is an old thread, but I, too, am interested in the Griot lights. I was at their flagship store and saw them in person. They are very impressive, as they should be for the price. They are actually T8s, but I suspect HO bulbs. The 6-up is blinding, but also has really nice color/quality. Better than any other fixtures I've found, and I suspect that the bulbs really make a difference. Would love to find a cheaper option, but so far these are the best I've found.

Does anyone have updated experience with them?

 

[frankush]

Just a suggestion here. Pick up a 4' T8 fixture and some quality lamps. Something like a Phillips F32T8/TL735 or 741. These are triphosphur lamps. Wire it up and see if you like it. I would buy the fixture I need and then experiment with the lamps until your happy. It will end up costing a lot less in the long run. I use 8' fixtures with 4-4' lamps and run 735's. I am very happy. If you have a heated garage, you shouldn't need the HO's.