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where do marine mechanic's get their specialty tools?

NathanC

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Hey everyone I will be getting into the marine trade soon and one thing I have noticed is snap-on or any other big tool trucks don't offer specialty tools for this trade. I'm not talking basic stuff like ratchets and sockets, i'm talking bellow's tools, gimble tools, mercruiser shift alignment, engine alignment bar, hinge pin tool, different sterndrive tools and pullers etc etc... where do you marine guys get your tools (besides oem Mercury or sierra)? :rocker:
 
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Sounds like you're headed toward the smaller end of the recreational market with things like stern drives and outboards. I don't spend much time on those other my own boats, but my techs generally have to get those sort of things from Mercury/Mercruiser, Volvo Penta, Yamaha, etc. Basically the manufactures.

Some shops have the more common specialty tools on hand so you only need to provide your typical hand tools.
 
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Sounds like you're headed toward the smaller end of the recreational market with things like stern drives and outboards. I don't spend much time on those other my own boats, but my techs generally have to get those sort of things from Mercury/Mercruiser, Volvo Penta, Yamaha, etc. Basically the manufactures.

Some shops have the more common specialty tools on hand so you only need to provide your typical hand tools.

That seems to be the only place to get these tools! Ive tried researching other companies with no luck
 

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Can't get them locally I bought mine from eBay.
Starting off you won't need your own shops supply those.
I'm going to be getting out of the trade in year
 
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chevyguy377

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There are spec's out there to make
An alignment bar iboats.com and bring those
Specs to a machine shop and have one made up
As you start working you may be able to get a discount
For marine specific tools thru your work
 

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Nathan,

In Canada and the U.S for that matter, certain specialty marine tools can be purchased through marine distributors (C-C, Kimpex, Land & Sea, T&H etc.) However as the others have already identified, the shop ultimately supplies them and they invariably come directly from the manufacturer. And given the monopoly they charge crazy prices. Go price out a new Verado diagnostic tool, make sure your sitting down.

Unless your ultimate goal is to also work from home and moonlight, it isn't cost effective to purchase most of these obscure tools. There will be enough specialty tools that you can purchase from Snap-On to help work on marine engines that will burn through all of your pay cheques for the first few years. Try changing the two lower plugs on 3.0L Optimax without taking the shroud off. A number of mechanics sell their stuff when they retire but again some experience will help you determine what you will be working on enough to justify specialty tools. It is a job after all and unless it is financially justifiable, the opportunity cost of your money is too great.

Good Luck, do you have a marina already lined up?
 
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Nathan,

In Canada and the U.S for that matter, certain specialty marine tools can be purchased through marine distributors (C-C, Kimpex, Land & Sea, T&H etc.) However as the others have already identified, the shop ultimately supplies them and they invariably come directly from the manufacturer. And given the monopoly they charge crazy prices. Go price out a new Verado diagnostic tool, make sure your sitting down.

Unless your ultimate goal is to also work from home and moonlight, it isn't cost effective to purchase most of these obscure tools. There will be enough specialty tools that you can purchase from Snap-On to help work on marine engines that will burn through all of your pay cheques for the first few years. Try changing the two lower plugs on 3.0L Optimax without taking the shroud off. A number of mechanics sell their stuff when they retire but again some experience will help you determine what you will be working on enough to justify specialty tools. It is a job after all and unless it is financially justifiable, the opportunity cost of your money is too great.

Good Luck, do you have a marina already lined up?

well it's a pretty big relief that the shop buys all the specialty tools. I figure there may be a few I will have to buy but no big deal. and like you said I can buy from snap on for some stuff. right now i'm just working on getting all the necessities in my box.

I do pretty much have a place lined up. they are still thinking about taking me on as an apprentice but hopefully they say yes because it's a merc dealer so I will get good experience on the job!
 
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one other question guys, Is there a need for torx, torx plus tamper proof, tripple square and hex socket bits?? when I think of i/o's i dont think there are any on them or outboards. I know seadoo's has quite a few hex/allen head bolts.
 

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one other question guys, Is there a need for torx and hex socket bits?? when I think of i/o's i dont think there are any on them or outboards. I know seadoo's has quite a few hex/allen head bolts.

You'll need both without question. Great bogo deal on right now with Snap-On for torx sockets and two ratchets!!!
 

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How far back will you be going on your repairs ?

I am in the Antique Outboard Clb of America, Florida Chapter. I have purchased all the special tools needed for the Mercury automaitic transmission outboard models made from 1957-62 from
www.johnsmcintoshvintagemercuryoutboard.com.

Check out that site. His tools are first rate !

Another place you might try is posting a free ad on the antique outboard club web site www.aomci.org and say you're looking for used Mercury tools. Make sure you put your email and phone in your ad.

finally Google : John's Old Mercury site

place an ad on the wanted part of the classifieds. You will need to reginster a user name and get a password. There's a lot of old Mercury dealers that would probably sell old Mercruiser tools.

Hope this helps, John
 

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Like everyone said most special tools are supplied by the shop. If your doing I/O work I woul def. look into getting an alignment bar as well as bellows tools and some of the most common bearing and seal drivers. You can get them from distributors like Land & Sea or from your shop since they are a dealer. Don't get it all at once though. I've been in the business 15 years and collect tools as I've needed them or if I found some for sale. Good luck.
 
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Like everyone said most special tools are supplied by the shop. If your doing I/O work I woul def. look into getting an alignment bar as well as bellows tools and some of the most common bearing and seal drivers. You can get them from distributors like Land & Sea or from your shop since they are a dealer. Don't get it all at once though. I've been in the business 15 years and collect tools as I've needed them or if I found some for sale. Good luck.

Thanks for the advice, I have located an alignment bar used for $60 so I think i'm going to pick that up soon. and I am looking at a bearing and seal drivers from snap on right now. I ordered a bunch of stuff of the truck today so it should be here next week. :rocker:
 

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I work on a lot of seapoo's. Some tools you can build yourself, and others you're just boned.
 
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