Any audi/vw guys?

[redline380]

I'd like to see your tools and what it takes to work on the newer models. I currently own a 2001 a4 and have most of the specialty tools to work on my own vehicle. I think the only major tool i am missing is an ohc valve spring compressor. I am just trying to reach out to any audi/vw guys. and if youre interested, i am a mod on an audi forum and am always looking for new members who are experienced in wrenching

 

[gibbon_guy]

VCDS, 12pt triple square, stubby, regular, and ball Allen, torx, 5 sided torx, wire terminal tools, radio removal tools, haldex wrench, cam lock bar, crank lock pin, cam holder, tensioner tools, several 12pt sockets like 9mm, 19mm, 30mm, coil pulling tools (luxury), repair manuals. I am missing stuff probably.

 

[redline380]

huh, i'd like to know what a 5 sided torx is. i don't need the cam lock bar or the haldex wrench. but what are the 9 and 30 mm 12pt needed for?

 

[gigamel]

5-sided torx = Torx-plus tamper proof (or security)

http://www.wihatools.com/700seri/716_IPR_serie.htm

 

[MattPersman]

VIM makes some http://www.amazon.com/dp/B001UNAS0I/?tag=atomicindus08-20

 

[robe5000]

huh, i'd like to know what a 5 sided torx is. i don't need the cam lock bar or the haldex wrench. but what are the 9 and 30 mm 12pt needed for?

He might mean "ribe" aka polydrive, an M10 polydrive is required for some of the head bolts
I work on VW engines in a line of forklifts, same engines as the cars so I have all the engine tools, I'll make a list and take some pics if I get a chance today

 

[mailpup]

I have a few specialized tools for the VW/Audi 1.8T engine. A 3387 pin wrench (Hazet) for timing belt tensioner pulley, Schley 67600 crank pulley holding tool, 3366 cam chain adjuster, T10008 lock plate and 3411 lock carrier set.

 

[Cryptic1911]

full set of triplesquare / xzn? bits, full set of torx, standard metric sockets.. lots of 10,13,18,19mm, 15/16 or 27mm 12pt impacts for axle bolts, schwaben valve spring compressor, clutch alignment tool, and especially vcds from ross-tech. I was just using mine last night to clear some fault codes

 

[purplezr2]

Triple Squares(various including axle to transmission and flywheel bolts)
Torx(all over the places)
ETorx(bottom end bolt)
Cam Adjuster compressor tool(for removing CCT on 1.8t and 2.8 v6)
Polydrive and M10 triple square long for headbolts
14mm and 17mm Hex for axle bolts
30mm 12pt for axle bolts
9mm 12pt clutch bolts
Ross-tech VCDS
Good selection of 8,10,13,16,17,18,19,21 mm tools in the form of different sockets and wrenches

That is without looking in my drawer

 

[redline380]

He might mean "ribe" aka polydrive, an M10 polydrive is required for some of the head bolts
I work on VW engines in a line of forklifts, same engines as the cars so I have all the engine tools, I'll make a list and take some pics if I get a chance today

that makes sense. That's the tool I need for my headbokts so I got one off the mac guy. As far as vcds goes, I don't really need it that bad. The program I run on my computer allows me to do diagnostics scan, as well as remapping pretty much every other engine parameter.

 

[djb2]

He might mean "ribe" aka polydrive, an M10 polydrive is required for some of the head bolts
I work on VW engines in a line of forklifts, same engines as the cars so I have all the engine tools, I'll make a list and take some pics if I get a chance today

The "five sided driver" may be the pentalobe driver used for the radio retaining screws.

A Polydrive is a 6 spline driver that is very very similar to the old Bristol multiple spline system.

 

[AV tinker er]

I had to buy a 30mm 1pt for my 00 Golf's axel bolts, and the replacement half shaft came with a 6 point.

 

[robe5000]

The "five sided driver" may be the pentalobe driver used for the radio retaining screws.

A Polydrive is a 6 spline driver that is very very similar to the old Bristol multiple spline system.

Ha! And I just bought a set of polydrives on Monday, guess I better learn to count

 

[V70R]

Add a 14mm hex bit socket for your rear drive axles. Make sure your 16mm Tsquare bit is a tamper-proof style otherwise it is pointless for transmission service. 21mm crowsfoot for tie rod service. If your rack goes out, a 22mm universal socket will be your best friend for the power steering banjo bolt. Long metal rod to clean sunroof drains and prevent rear module from becoming damaged from water. Grab a Bentley manual!

 

[RKA]

8mm stubby hex socket (shorter than a typical short bit) for rear calipers (SO sells one), spring compressor similar to the design of the sir tools portable unit for the rear springs. If you're dealing with any cars with a canister oil filter housing, there is a drain tool for canister to minimize the mess along with a shallow 3/8" drive 36mm socket to remove that canister. Perhaps some long threaded bolts to support the lock carrier in the service position. Rear brake caliper tool (turns the piston while compressing). Motiv brake bleeder.

 

[Rusty Musket]

Good timing on this thread! I have a few VW/Audi tools that came with another purchase and there are some who's function I cannot figure out. I am betting you guys will know. The last two are a radio removal tool and an airbag removal tool but I am not sure of the specific applications.

PS. I have no use for these so they are heading for my "sale" pile.

 

[DPDISXR4Ti]

FWIW, I recently did a pretty extensive amount of service on my 1.8T (2002 A4) and I didn't need any specialty tools. The primary driver behind the service was the timing belt replacement, but it turned into a a full-on "While you're in there" sort of deal. The timing sprockets are NOT prone to moving, so as long as you mark them as a safe-guard, no issues there. Replacing the timing chain tensioner gasket (another common leaker), is supposed to require a special tool, but I had no issues doing the job without it.

Admittedly I didn't anything invasive to the engine, but for basic service I didn't need to add a single tool to my arsenal.

 

[V70R]

Rusty Market- The first image looks like an airbag tool, and tool no. 2 is for door handles. Most of that stuff is applied to mk4 (1998- beettle, 1999.5 golf/jetta to 2004.5) vehicles.

 

[P0234]

VCDS, Elsawin and Etka

 

[zx2slow]

My vag-com cable gets the most use. I have a schwaben triple square set and a fuel filter clamp tool, otherwise standard tools will do 99% of jobs.

 

[redline380]

thanks for the replies guys. i'd like to mention i have aquired a few of the specialty tools that are required.
MAC Triple square set- I am going to have my neighbor put a hole in the center of the 16mm bit with his lathe so i can use it on the transmission drain
MAC 17mm allen socket
Cam Chain Tensioner Tool
Matco T-belt tensioner tool, I changed to a manual tensioner on the tbelt system to delete the problematic hydro unit
Polydrive headbolt tool- I have the Triple Square headbolt tool, but i made it. I bought a cheap lisle triple square bit and welded it onto a 6 inch 3/8 extension. My car runs the polydrive units, but i had to take a head off an older model with the triple square bolts and i didnt want to waste money on a good one if i was only going to use it once. I still might buy a good one just in case

i still got a few things to buy but im off to a good start. i normally just went down to my landlords diesel shop to do work on my car, but i figured if i ever get a place for myself i'll want to have tools.

 

[DPDISXR4Ti]

MAC Triple square set- I am going to have my neighbor put a hole in the center of the 16mm bit with his lathe so i can use it on the transmission drain

Thanks for the heads-up on this, as I have a set of ZXN/Triple Square sockets, but not the tamper-proof type. Why the heck would they make a drain plug tamper-proof any way!? FWIW, Borg-Warner would use a tamper-proof head on the bolts you weren't supposed to remove unless rebuilding the transmission. Now that makes sense!

It goes without saying that I hope your buddy has some good bits to cut through that Matco bit.

 

[AV tinker er]

Is there much else that uses triple square or did Torx take over?

 

[jjjrmx5]

Is there much else that uses triple square or did Torx take over?

Triple square was a way to keep "home mechanics" and non dealer repair shops out of the CV joint and engine repair area by what was then Audi and VW and what is now the VAG (Volkswagen Auto Group).

No intent to try to take on Torx. Just a way to keep the work inhouse and keep DIY folks out.

Japan uses the double hex/bi-hex to do the same thing.

90% money grab.

Torx is still a GM, Ford and American car mfgr. love child. I don't see them a lot in Euro makes.

They do show their head in certain applications but not to the rate of hex and the like.

 

[redline380]

im not sure on which applications but i know the diesel shop down the road from me has a set of triple squares, so i know they are on some type of tractor. but i can tell you they are certainly used on audi/vw. not a ton, but they show up

 

[purplezr2]

Triple square was a way to keep "home mechanics" and non dealer repair shops out of the CV joint and engine repair area by what was then Audi and VW and what is now the VAG (Volkswagen Auto Group).

No intent to try to take on Torx. Just a way to keep the work inhouse and keep DIY folks out.

Japan uses the double hex/bi-hex to do the same thing.

90% money grab.

Torx is still a GM, Ford and American car mfgr. love child. I don't see them a lot in Euro makes.

They do show their head in certain applications but not to the rate of hex and the like.

Vw/Audi uses torx alot, ****** case, diff case, head lights, core supports, cam hold downs. I would say I use torx almost as much as hex on VW/Audi.

 

[redline380]

Vw/Audi uses torx alot, ****** case, diff case, head lights, core supports, cam hold downs. I would say I use torx almost as much as hex on VW/Audi.

central mn? where exactly if you dont mind me asking...

as for torx on audi's, at least b5 chassis (with 06a block if you wanna get specific), i can probably tell you exactly where all of them are, and you hit most of them. of course there are a ton of hex too. i like how a lo of bolts are 5mm allen/10mm hex. it gives you options

 

[MadTinkerer]

Practically every fastener on a Mercedes is torx or e-torx

 

[xurusaibobx]

best tool you need is a hose clamp pliers...

 

[V70R]

Research the brand of Polydrive Bit Socket before purchasing...most have poor fitment into your factory headbolts, as most are intended for use with non-OE headbolts. Hazet, or the factory tool is your best bet. As for Torx- Volkswagen has done a big transfer from hex to torx in the MK5 and newer platforms, and B6 a4/Passat chassis.

VAG= Volkswagen Audi Gmbh