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Garage/Carport in the making

NineFingerFury

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Well, my wife and I have been talking, and she is cool with us paving the area I now park my car (mud pit) along with replacing our cracked 12'x15' driveway. After we dig it out, we'll be using my grandpa's cement mixer to do the new 35'x45' driveway, on top of which I'll be building a carport/garage big enough for both cars and a little room to get work done on them.

Here's the layout of our property as of now, along with pics of the site for future carport/garage.

Right now, I'm in the planning/pricing out stage.

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Man, what I would do for a 75x140' lot. It would appear to me, that you are only limited by your budget. When you have some plans down on paper, feel free to share them.
 
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Well, with the septic, I can't build anything in the area behind the current garage. Also, according to the county, I can't build anything wider than 12' or something on the side of the garage because of rules concerning how close I can build next to my house and the property line...
 
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Current idea to rearrange garage allowing me to fit car in to do work until we build. Thoughts? I have 12'x20' to work with. Everything in there needs to be in there somewhere.
 

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You have a large back yard, but your cut off by the septic area. Any chance of a sewer line coming by anytime in the future? Looks like many homes surrounding you. Any access possible on the right side of the house? Ideally I would want the new garage in the left hand part of the backyard, but you can't drive over the septic lines, and you would need a hard drive as the soil looks pretty saturated back there. Sort of a catch-22. Have you thought about building in the area where your car is currently parked? Are you in the city limits? Usually around here at least the county could care less what you do.
 
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Sewer line won't happen unfortunately. The right side of the house would work, but the street mailboxes are right where I don't want them, and we just put new lawn in the front yard last year, so I'd hate to rip it all out too.

As for building where I park the car now, that's my plan. I need to find out what the county requires as far as where I can build first. I remember there being some sort of rule about how close to the property line, how close to the house and how close to the street I'm allowed to build. My fear is that in that space (roughly 24x45) I won't be able to build something with the dimensions I'd hoped to have (at least 20x20) because of regulations.

I'm out of the city limits in Unincorporated King County, but King County still requires me to meet their regulations and I need a permit unless it is under 200sqft.

Pisses me right off. I know my neighbors didn't get permits because they all have shops/sheds/carports where they technically shouldn't. When I brought it up to the lady at the Department of Development and Environmental Services, she said there was nothing she could do, but if I wanted to, I could report my neighbors...WTF? Told her no thanks and then she told me I could build a garage in my front yard.

If you couldn't tell, I'm a little frustrated at this point. I live on a freaking .25 acre lot with a 1,000sqft home and can't build a freaking thing I want on it because of the septic and where they decided to build the house 40+ years ago.
 

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Thanks for answering my questions. I can feel your frustration as I would be having the same going on. I do live in a city, but in 1975 when I moved here, and built my house, the codes were so lax that nobody really questioned me on anything. At the time I had a similar situation as yours. I had a one car garage with the house, but did not want to do anything except keep the wife's car there so she could come and go without getting wet, cold, etc. I do have an acre lot, but my house was positioned so that only a drive way could fit on the left side and I could not extend the garage, and it was brick which is bear to add on to anyway. (My septic was in the front yard and to the right of the house). So what I did is spend $4000.00 to build a driveway (road actually) around my house and into my back lot. I was able to build a 20X30 ft garage/shop in the back of the house so it looked like it had been planned that way, and I still had room for an 8X16 ft shed later on. You can see this in my thread. When I built the house (1975) I had to put in a septic system (cost $1,800) as the sewer was being done and was about three months away. I had to move in so I did the septic anyway. Three months later, the city fired up the sewer, and one day I got a knock on my door and a letter saying I "WOULD" hook on the now working sewer or they would cut off my water service!! On top of that, they wanted $350.00 from me "NOW" for a sewer tap fee. Remember I had a three month old well working septic system. To end it up, I got a lawyer, and we had to agree for me to pay sewer fees every month on my water bill even though I kept the septic. Later, I got on the sewer at the first sign of septic trouble. The SOB's even wanted and then finally waived the sewer tap fee when I got on it in 1998.
Sorry for the long story, but things can work out. The problem is the pain, frustration and money that most of us don't have.

Good Luck! Let us know how it goes, ok?
 
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Just talked with Tough Shed today about a shed in the back and they confirmed my fears. I have a 20' setback rule as well, meaning I need to be 20' back from the street. 5' from property line to adjacent property, and 6' from the house for fire code. The short of it is I can't have a garage. Super cool.
 

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Just talked with Tough Shed today about a shed in the back and they confirmed my fears. I have a 20' setback rule as well, meaning I need to be 20' back from the street. 5' from property line to adjacent property, and 6' from the house for fire code. The short of it is I can't have a garage. Super cool.

Probably could get an exception from the street 20 ft setback rule. My old house had protruding garage and had exception for setback from day one - - thus the builder got approval to build it that way.

Looks like if you built an "L" on left side of house, that would be best. Bump out existing garage the 12 feet to left, then build forward to street like 16 ft. Cool way to handle roof would be giant lam beam at peak of roof that everything tied into it. This could let you have say 9 ft tall walls on left side and cripple in right side to existing roof. The front 16 ft of new garage 24 ft wide would have full trusses (if you want), or stay with cathedral ceiling like the back half. Good thing about using the lam-beam is the back left corner would be tall enough for you to have lift. You would end up with super deep 2 wide garage (ie nearly 4 car) of approx 24' x 36'.

An old quote . . . . . Never Say Never . . . . . Go For It !!
 
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Man, what I would do for a 75x140' lot. It would appear to me, that you are only limited by your budget. When you have some plans down on paper, feel free to share them.

Man I know how it feels to have a ton of space but no money. That said the space is mine and money can come later.

Good luck with your project, it looks like you are headed in the right direction.
 

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Do you really want to pour a 35'x45" concrete drive using a mixer ? Once you figure up your cost for stone,sand and portland cement I bet you'll have more than a ready mix truck along with an aching back for the entire process.
 
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NineFingerFury

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Do you really want to pour a 35'x45" concrete drive using a mixer ? Once you figure up your cost for stone,sand and portland cement I bet you'll have more than a ready mix truck along with an aching back for the entire process.

Don't even know if we're paving the whole thing now. Part of that was going to be for garage that might not happen. We'll at least replace and extend current driveway out to the street (12x45). But yes, if we do pave it all, a truck might be worth it.
 
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