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This is the second time in 6 months that Ive got a cab from them that is locked w/o a key. The first one I drilled out the lock. This one I would like to have a lock so I'm asking if there is a member that will either send me thier #136 key so I can get one made(I will then return it),of get one made from yours and send it to me (I will pay you for it). If I cant find one in a couple days I guess I will drill this one out too.Dont tell me to call HF about it because I tried and the whatever that answered the phone didnt know what a lock is.I could only understand about every 3rd word any way.Thanks in advance!
 
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Can you post a picture of the lock? I know they have used two types of locks on the boxes. Ill check what numbers I have.
 

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I must have a different style lock. My two cabinets have keys A1960 and A1776.

As an aside, with all the guys who have HF cabinets (or in may cases, multiple HF cabinets) we should try to organize a lock swap so more of us could possibly end up with keyed alike units.

If you can't find a key and decide to drill it out, I would split a set of 5 matched locks with you. HF will sell them for I think $30 plus shipping. I only needed 3 that were keyed alike and really couldn't justify the extra cost for the extra two locks.
 
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Out here where I live, a locksmith would cost more than the cab is worth! Ive got 6 cabs and every one has a different lock.If they will sell 5 for $30,maybe i should buy 10 and then sell off the extras.I can go down and get a pic of the lock type from the other boxes.
 

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Here is the info I got when I emailed them:

Harbor Freight CS said:
The part you are looking for is one that we carry as a stock item. Unfortunately, you can not order it on the web site. You can however order this directly from the inbound sales department by calling 1-800-423-2567. Please allow 8-10 business days for delivery.

SKU# Part# Description Price (plus tax & shipping)

12892 90320 5LOCKS W/SAME 5KEYS 1PC $30.99 ea


These are apparently phone order only as the website doesn't have them on it and the stores don't stock them.
 
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I know you've tried HF and not had good luck...sorry to hear that. I did have good luck with HF. You actually need to get them to connect you to a 'technician.' When I was trying to order a replacement for the lock I had to drill out, since the key was locked in it at the store, they had more than one option available, so they had me talk to a 'technician,' who was able help me figure out which part number would meet my needs. In this case, there was the possibility of ordering either one lock, or a set of locks, which leads me to believe that you could order enough replacement locks, keyed alike, to make all your cabinets the same.

With that said, this is a very common lock style, used in office furniture and filing cabinets of all sorts. If you remove the lock body and take some basic measurements, there are a lot of places online which would sell you replacement lock bodies. Just make sure you keep the adapter (the little metal plate, screwed onto the end, which connects the lock body to the internal locking mechanism), so you can attach it to the new lock.

Removing and reinstalling the lock body was a ******...mainly because of access. If I remember correctly, it was a clip, which slid into slots on the lock body...not the screw ring, which I was expecting.

If you end up buying new locks from a third party, you can get whatever level of security you need, from the basic brass key to the locks with the barrel key.

I'll go down and take a look at my keys in a moment. I seem to remember that the key had an unusual design (not a standard key or barrel key), looked a lot like a mini-Christmas-tree, instead of other keys I've seen.

I would recommend wearing safety glasses when you drill out the lock...a piece of flying shrapnel could fly out toward your eye (ask me how I know).

Hope this helps.

Kev.
 
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I know you've tried HF and not had good luck...sorry to hear that. I did have good luck with HF. You actually need to get them to connect you to a 'technician.' When I was trying to order a replacement for the lock I had to drill out, since the key was locked in it at the store, they had more than one option available, so they had me talk to a 'technician,' who was able help me figure out which part number would meet my needs. In this case, there was the possibility of ordering either one lock, or a set of locks, which leads me to believe that you could order enough replacement locks, keyed alike, to make all your cabinets the same.

With that said, this is a very common lock style, used in office furniture and filing cabinets of all sorts. If you remove the lock body and take some basic measurements, there are a lot of places online which would sell you replacement lock bodies. Just make sure you keep the adapter (the little metal plate, screwed onto the end, which connects the lock body to the internal locking mechanism), so you can attach it to the new lock.

Removing and reinstalling the lock body was a ******...mainly because of access. If I remember correctly, it was a clip, which slid into slots on the lock body...not the screw ring, which I was expecting.

If you end up buying new locks from a third party, you can get whatever level of security you need, from the basic brass key to the locks with the barrel key.

I'll go down and take a look at my keys in a moment. I seem to remember that the key had an unusual design (not a standard key or barrel key), looked a lot like a mini-Christmas-tree, instead of other keys I've seen.

I would recommend wearing safety glasses when you drill out the lock...a piece of flying shrapnel could fly out toward your eye (ask me how I know).

Hope this helps.

Kev.

Yea,they are pretty much all alike,but theres no way I;d pay them $39 for one. I'd have to wear saftey glasses because I cant see where to drill w/o them!
 
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The only thing different is the little tab thingy on the back that is held on by a little screw. The OD and length is the same on these two out of different style cabnets.
 

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I'm not sure but looking by the pictures, is it possible to stick a hack saw in between the drawer and edge of box and the tang off the back side of the lock ?
 

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I'm not sure but looking by the pictures, is it possible to stick a hack saw in between the drawer and edge of box and the tang off the back side of the lock ?

That tang isn't really replaceable. That piece is specific to the cabinet whereas the lock is generic. If he ever wants it to lock again he needs to leave that alone.
 

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That tang isn't really replaceable. That piece is specific to the cabinet whereas the lock is generic. If he ever wants it to lock again he needs to leave that alone.

Not necessarily, it really wouldn't be a big deal to weld the tab back together.
 

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So...how exactly do they manage to lock the keys INSIDE of the box? If they are not supposed to lock the boxes at the factory because the keys are inside, then why do they have master keys at the factory to begin with?
 
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They are locked at the store. The mechanism allows drawers to be open, but the key is in the 'locked' position. So, as soon as you close the drawer, with the set of keys in it, you no longer have access to that cabinet.

I got a deal on my 7-drawer end cabinet, because it was locked up at the store. There is a sample 13-drawer cabinet at my local HF which has been on display, and locked up, for months.

You'd think they would get wise and tape to the keys to the bottom of the cabinets or something.

Kev
 

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They are locked at the store. The mechanism allows drawers to be open, but the key is in the 'locked' position. So, as soon as you close the drawer, with the set of keys in it, you no longer have access to that cabinet.

I got a deal on my 7-drawer end cabinet, because it was locked up at the store. There is a sample 13-drawer cabinet at my local HF which has been on display, and locked up, for months.

You'd think they would get wise and tape to the keys to the bottom of the cabinets or something.

Kev

Those type of cabnits you can turn upside down and all but the top drawer will open.:D
 

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That's just a standard cam lock that you can buy at most hardware stores or millions of places on the internet. The only difference is the cam on the back of it. Usually they come with a few different cams in the package. They are held on by the large screw on the back.

You should be able to drill that one out and just replace with using the old cam.

I checked and there are load of different manufacturers that use that code number for keys and many use different blanks and cuts. So, just getting a random locksmith (or anyone else) to simply code cut a key number 136 would e like buying a pig in a poke.

If someone else can post pics of both sides of their key that uses the same 136'ish code series for a HF lock, I can figure it out and send you a couple of keys.
 

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There was another guy posting a thread about a discount he got on two display HF cabinets because the keys were missing. He drilled them out and ordered a couple of new locks from HF for $15.
 

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That tang isn't really replaceable. That piece is specific to the cabinet whereas the lock is generic. If he ever wants it to lock again he needs to leave that alone.

If Trbomax orders a new lock, it should already have the tang on the new lock cylinder shouldn't it ?

Somehow, he needs to get the drawer open to replace the "keyless" lock with a new one. Cutting the tang off would allow the drawer to open.
 

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If Trbomax orders a new lock, it should already have the tang on the new lock cylinder shouldn't it ?

Somehow, he needs to get the drawer open to replace the "keyless" lock with a new one. Cutting the tang off would allow the drawer to open.

Most likely not. The tangs used in cabinets like this that lock all the drawers are unique to that model of cabinet. They are not usually included with the lock as that makes it more difficult to stock all the necessary replacements.
 

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Most likely not. The tangs used in cabinets like this that lock all the drawers are unique to that model of cabinet. They are not usually included with the lock as that makes it more difficult to stock all the necessary replacements.

Well that freaking *****, a 5 cent stamped metal tang not included with a lock. :mad:
 
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Check your local sears yet? They sell lock replacement for their boxes.

I wouldnt buy it from sears if it was $.99,but thats another story.I guess I'll drill it out and check at the hardware when I'm in town next,or the online places suggested.
 

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I totally forgot to mention...when I bought the HF cabinet and the keys were locked in it and I had to drill the lock, HF customer service sent me the replacement lock FREE. It was their fault, so they replaced the lock. I did have to get them to get the 'technician' or 'engineer' on the line, to determine exactly which lock option to send (they had a couple of options for that cabinet), but they didn't charge me for the locks or the shipping. I think it took a good 3 weeks to arrive, but it didn't cost a dime, apart from my time and effort to replace the lock myself.

Kev
 

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They are locked at the store. The mechanism allows drawers to be open, but the key is in the 'locked' position. So, as soon as you close the drawer, with the set of keys in it, you no longer have access to that cabinet.

I got a deal on my 7-drawer end cabinet, because it was locked up at the store. There is a sample 13-drawer cabinet at my local HF which has been on display, and locked up, for months.

You'd think they would get wise and tape to the keys to the bottom of the cabinets or something.

Kev

But those appear to just be a standard cam lock. If the keys are stored in the top drawer, they wouldnt be able to lock it without a master key. If its in any other drawer you should be able to open it by turning it upside down and allowing the bar that secures the drawers to slide the other way. I dunno, Im not real familiar with the HF boxes. Im just having a hard time figuring out how they manage to lock so many keys inside boxes unless they have a unique design....Hf with a unique design, lol. Really though theycopy everything, so I dont see how they came up with a lock that wasnt easily defeated
 

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I bought a set of ~$15 auto-jigglers when I was helping repo a few cars and you can use one of them to pick any simple tool box or masterlock in less than a minute. Well worth the investment after a little bit of practice.
 

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But those appear to just be a standard cam lock. If the keys are stored in the top drawer, they wouldnt be able to lock it without a master key. If its in any other drawer you should be able to open it by turning it upside down and allowing the bar that secures the drawers to slide the other way. I dunno, Im not real familiar with the HF boxes. Im just having a hard time figuring out how they manage to lock so many keys inside boxes unless they have a unique design....Hf with a unique design, lol. Really though theycopy everything, so I dont see how they came up with a lock that wasnt easily defeated

This. When a got the side cabnit for the 44" roll-a-round it was locked the key was taped to the bottom of the second draw. Just turned it upside down pull second draw out and there was the key.
 

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These locks are the easiest things in the world to pick. Bend a paper clip and rake it across the pins while gently turning the lock.

I can pick them in about 5 seconds and anyone who hasn't done it can learn how to in about 5 minutes after watching a you tube video or two.
 
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