The VISES of Garage Journal

[mcmlvif100]

you guys and your dirt cheap prices are killing me. People in canada know what good vises are worth and they're hard to come by.

Am going to have to apologize in advance. Hollands 14 was a CL buy last fall. It's dirty and has some surface rust but was listed for $5 and just 5 -6 miles from our house. Had to buy it.

 

[mcmlvif100]

Wilton 9450 was free. Got it about 20 years ago. Was originally mounted to a factory welding (brazing) bench at the company where I worked. Helped with a sale of surplus equipment. The welding bench didn't sell so after the sale ended, I asked the manager if I could have the vise and she said take it. Did a quick clean up then and have used it since. Jaws were trashed to I only used it when I had something too big for my little Craftsman. Bought some of KMScott's replacement jaws last fall. Wish that I had done that sooner as I use the vise a lot more now.

 

[mcmlvif100]

Craftsman with 3 1/2 in. jaws is another CL purchase. Tops of the jaws are a little beat up but have wanted one of the older style Craftsman for a while. Priced at $25 and just a mile from our house made it too hard to resist. Am just going to mount it to one of my smaller workbenches and use it "as is".

 

[KMScott]

mcmlvif100, thanks for the kind words, you let me know how those jaws hold up and be sure to use them. I have a pin made for your Prentiss # 20 and will send you a PM for your address. Your 9450 and rtvinc 4" 940 Wilton are sure nice vises.

Kevin

https://wiltonviseparts.net

 

[Mark in Indiana]

http://mohave.craigslist.org/tls/3654442855.html

Worth this for an 80# reed?

If there is nothing wrong with the vise, $100.00 is a fair price. Consider the piece of junk that you would get for $80.00 from HF, or any of the big box stores.

 

[calimander]

Hollands #45. Weighs110 lbs

 

[calimander]

Has anyone ever seen another? It has 5" jaws. It was painted puke green and looked to be a school vise. It took some doing to remove that tapered pin. Glad to see there is a forum for us guys with a vise vice.


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[Outlander]

Trying to grab this guy http://montreal.kijiji.ca/c-acheter-et-vendre-outils-autre-Etau-W0QQAdIdZ463461666

For $25 it will look nice on my second bench.

 

[ADSR]

Am going to have to apologize in advance. Hollands 14 was a CL buy last fall. It's dirty and has some surface rust but was listed for $5 and just 5 -6 miles from our house. Had to buy it.

Holy ****!!!

You ****!

Did you at least knock them down to 4 dollars?

 

[ADSR]

Trying to grab this guy http://montreal.kijiji.ca/c-acheter-et-vendre-outils-autre-Etau-W0QQAdIdZ463461666

For $25 it will look nice on my second bench.

If you do get it, you ****!

That's an unreal deal for a vise that nice!

 

[Mark in Indiana]

Here's a little Craftsman 3-1/2" I picked up at a yard sale for $5.00. Outside of some welding slag on the slide that I can grind off, it works great. I don't think I'll get a "You ****" award, but it will make a great resto candidate so I'm happy.

 

[kukko]

This forum has messed me up in so many (not bad) ways. from a few pages ago, you can see an example of a stand made out of a semi-truck drum and a pipe, and I have been meaning to do something like that for a while. So I finally had the time to visit the scrap metal yard here in town for the first time ever earlier this week. I found a few things, and also saw some semi-truck brake discs and have been contemplating whether or not that would work better than a brake drum. So I went back to the scrap metal yard yesterday and noticed that this must be a very busy yard, because I only saw a few things that I recognized from just a few days earlier, and much stuff had been cleared out. There was the remnants of an old AutoCar truck that caught my eye, so I walked over to it to check it out. When I looked down, I saw a pretty "nice" looking brake disc and then figured I would walk around the yard some more before deciding about getting it. After walking a while, I went back to the front of the truck, saw the disc setting on the pile, then noticed something that caught my eye. Something that looked like the bar of a vise, with a rounded ball end. It was like slow motion, but my eyes followed the shape and then I could not believe what I saw half buried in the dirt/scrap metal pile. After I drug it out, I saw it was a Reed 106! Holy cr@p, I though this stuff only happened to others on the forum, and I was never expecting to find anything like that......ever. Anyway, I dug it out, made sure it did not look like it had been destroyed by the heavy machinery at the scrap yard, tried turning the handle (it did move, pretty well considering the condition it was in), then figured how to drag this monster about the length of a football field to the front counter to pay for it. I carried it slowly and painfully, and managed to get some help about 3/4 of the way to the scale. It weighed in at 135 pounds, and I had to pay $26 for it. I gleefully handed over the cash and loaded it in my car. Got it home, unloaded it, and have just really begun to get it apart for further cleaning. Everything came apart fairly easily considering the quantity of gunky build up on it. Looking forward to getting this one cleaned up and put back together. Does anyone know how to get the ball ends off the bar handle? The bar is really bent and I'd like to straighten it. Enjoy the pics.

 

[bl00]

Hollands #45. Weighs110 lbs

Nice Hollands. There have been a couple swivel jaw ones posted on here, although they may have been different model numbers or sizes.

 

[bl00]

. After I drug it out, I saw it was a Reed 106!

And YOU ****!

 

[Too_Many_Tools]

How big do the lugs need to be? On this one its two, and yes, that is all that is needed if the Wing nut on the bottom is reasonably tight. Those on mine are about 1/8 of an inch or so high. you would have ot be really loose on the wing nut for it to slip.

Jaw pics will have to come later, I'm on the run just now, but I believe they are removable; they are flat, I can see the line, but remember, this one is a reed not the Prentiss you are looking at.

Both are around turn of the century, possibly older, as this swivel design was mostly if not completely supplanted industry wide by the early 1900's

My only issue with them is you have to have easy access to under the bench to loosen the wing nut. so and open bench design is pretty much required.

Thanks for the info.

Looking forward to the pictures.

The vise I saw had almost no lug on the base plate...therefore that is why I am asking questions.

 

[mcmlvif100]

Has anyone ever seen another? It has 5" jaws. It was painted puke green and looked to be a school vise. It took some doing to remove that tapered pin. Glad to see there is a forum for us guys with a vise vice.

There was a Hollands 46 in the "Biggest bench vise ever made" thread - posting #72. Like yours, it had a swivel jaw and swivel base.

 

[Rusty Musket]

Well done Kukko! Now I want to go the scrap yard.

Does anyone know if Blue Point marketed their own vises? This 5" one popped up on Craigslist today and the seller says it is marked "Blue Point. Made in Spain" I am not sure if I have seen any Spanish vises on this thread.

 

[mcmlvif100]

Something that looked like the bar of a vise, with a rounded ball end. It was like slow motion, but my eyes followed the shape and then I could not believe what I saw half buried in the dirt/scrap metal pile. After I drug it out, I saw it was a Reed 106!

Great find. Hard to believe that someone just threw it away.

 

[Mark in Indiana]

I just finished this resto of my Athol 324 1/2 today.

 

[Brewsterg6]

Here's mine... after a quick paint job.

 

[fullthrottle24]

I just finished this resto of my Athol 324 1/2 today.

Mark, great job on that one. What color is that, looks like rustoleum hammered deep green, I have can, but have yet to use it.

 

[coolreed]

After restoring larger vises I decided to restore a few small ones. Here are two in the jaws of my big Yost. The top one is a small Prentiss and below is a small Athol.

 

[demoman]

Very nice find. You realize you will find yourself fantasizing about going there often to see if you can score another vise.
We run a scrap yard and you would not believe what people will throw away.
You ****!

This forum has messed me up in so many (not bad) ways. from a few pages ago, you can see an example of a stand made out of a semi-truck drum and a pipe, and I have been meaning to do something like that for a while. So I finally had the time to visit the scrap metal yard here in town for the first time ever earlier this week. I found a few things, and also saw some semi-truck brake discs and have been contemplating whether or not that would work better than a brake drum. So I went back to the scrap metal yard yesterday and noticed that this must be a very busy yard, because I only saw a few things that I recognized from just a few days earlier, and much stuff had been cleared out. There was the remnants of an old AutoCar truck that caught my eye, so I walked over to it to check it out. When I looked down, I saw a pretty "nice" looking brake disc and then figured I would walk around the yard some more before deciding about getting it. After walking a while, I went back to the front of the truck, saw the disc setting on the pile, then noticed something that caught my eye. Something that looked like the bar of a vise, with a rounded ball end. It was like slow motion, but my eyes followed the shape and then I could not believe what I saw half buried in the dirt/scrap metal pile. After I drug it out, I saw it was a Reed 106! Holy cr@p, I though this stuff only happened to others on the forum, and I was never expecting to find anything like that......ever. Anyway, I dug it out, made sure it did not look like it had been destroyed by the heavy machinery at the scrap yard, tried turning the handle (it did move, pretty well considering the condition it was in), then figured how to drag this monster about the length of a football field to the front counter to pay for it. I carried it slowly and painfully, and managed to get some help about 3/4 of the way to the scale. It weighed in at 135 pounds, and I had to pay $26 for it. I gleefully handed over the cash and loaded it in my car. Got it home, unloaded it, and have just really begun to get it apart for further cleaning. Everything came apart fairly easily considering the quantity of gunky build up on it. Looking forward to getting this one cleaned up and put back together. Does anyone know how to get the ball ends off the bar handle? The bar is really bent and I'd like to straighten it. Enjoy the pics.

 

[mcmlvif100]

Does anyone know how to get the ball ends off the bar handle? The bar is really bent and I'd like to straighten it. Enjoy the pics.

You might be able to straighten the handle without removing the ball ends. Will need to completely disassemble the vise and then take the handle and screw assembly to a hydraulic press. With a little fixturing and some patient application of force, you should be able to straighten it.

 

[gatewaysysop]

This forum has messed me up in so many (not bad) ways.

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Enjoy the pics.

Great story and great find. I have one of these and they are seemingly getting increasingly rare in this size. Definitely one of my favorites and a keeper. At the price you paid, that is definitely "You ****!" territory.

Congrats on an awesome find and for saving this beauty from the scrap yard.

 

[ADSR]

kukko

You ****, buddy.

Hell of a find and story!

 

[ADSR]

Here's mine... after a quick paint job.

That's pretty cool! Where in canada was it made? I've never seen one before

 

[Mark in Indiana]

Mark, great job on that one. What color is that, looks like rustoleum hammered deep green, I have can, but have yet to use it.

Thanks for your kind words. I used three coats of Rustoleum hammered deep green, a black magic marker for the lettering and a couple of coats of urethane clear coat. The slide stays untouched except for a thin coating of grease.

 

[wxm]

After restoring larger vises I decided to restore a few small ones. Here are two in the jaws of my big Yost. The top one is a small Prentiss and below is a small Athol.

Nice work shop.

 

[ZRX61]

I just finished this resto of my Athol 324 1/2 today.

Painted one of my Athols the exact same color

 

[KMScott]

Here is a Anthol 925 (5 inch jaws) I found in a backroom of a large company (Lexmark). They let me take the jaws for measurement. The vise has been in this backroom for over 25 years, and possibly there longer since the previous company (IBM) sold out to them. The paint is original and would be hard to duplicate. I liked the design of the brass cap even though they lost the other one. The handle ball ends are a great design too. Very nice vise but they won't sell it to me.

 

[mcmlvif100]

Here is a Anthol 925 (5 inch jaws) I found in a backroom of a large company (Lexmark). They let me take the jaws for measurement. The vise has been in this backroom for over 25 years, and possibly there longer since the previous company (IBM) sold out to them. The paint is original and would be hard to duplicate. I liked the design of the brass cap even though they lost the other one. The handle ball ends are a great design too. Very nice vise but they won't sell it to me.

Beautiful vise with an elegant solution for the brass caps.

 

[Mark in Indiana]

The paint is original and would be hard to duplicate.
I wonder if you could contact Starrett Co. and find out what the paint color formula is? Or maybe a paint shop that has people there that can create custom colors from a sample (I have a hard time with that one).

Very nice vise but they won't sell it to me.
That's too bad. Did you say to them: "You should get rid of that worthless piece of scrap metal, I'll be glad to haul it off for you"?

 

[KMScott]

It's mine when the company relocates, they promised. Like some big company's moving off shore or down sizing is always in the rumors. This vise is up where the developers are, they do not use it, it just sits there. How old is it? I am making a 1/2 dozen jaws just in case there is a market for them.

 

[Low Friction]

KBC Tools has some new old stock of Starrett vises. They probably have that vise if you want to pay around $600.

http://www.kbctools.com/USA/PDF/u0476.pdf

 

[mcmlvif100]

mcmlvif100, thanks for the kind words, you let me know how those jaws hold up and be sure to use them. I have a pin made for your Prentiss # 20 and will send you a PM for your address. Your 9450 and rtvinc 4" 940 Wilton are sure nice vises.

Kevin

Kevin,

New pin sounds great. Obviously, you work much faster than I do as I am still trying to get the Prentiss 20 completely disassembled. That said, I have a question about the dynamic jaw. From your prior post, Craig's Prentiss 20 has replaceable jaw inserts on both the static and dynamic jaws. The best that I can tell, my Prentiss 20 does not have replaceable jaws on the dynamic jaw. I included a picture of Craig's vise from your earlier post and 3 photos of mine. Does this make sense, am I missing something, or is it simply an older configuration? BTW - the static jaw does use replaceable inserts like Craig's vise.

 

[Fyrme]

Does anyone have a pic of a Wilton 1755 end cap that is removed? I have a friend that can probably make me one but I have no idea what it looks like, the dimensions or how it attaches to the vise. I appreciate any pics or info that can be provided.
Thanks,
Chad

 

[Outlander]

If you do get it, you ****!

That's an unreal deal for a vise that nice!

Please be advised my record for not sucking remains intact. Somebody grabbed it before I could organise to get there

 

[mcmlvif100]

Does anyone have a pic of a Wilton 1755 end cap that is removed? I have a friend that can probably make me one but I have no idea what it looks like, the dimensions or how it attaches to the vise. I appreciate any pics or info that can be provided.
Thanks,
Chad

Did a quick Google search for "Wilton 1755 vise parts" and found this website. Don't know anything about them / have never used them but might be worth checking them out.

http://www.ereplacementparts.com/wi...adesman-vise-parts-c-32774_155485_155601.html

Screen shot shows the 1755 end cap as part of the End Piece Assembly W/ Two Pins (figure 5). If it's like my 9450, the end cap is a light press fit into the end of the static jaw.

 

[KMScott]

Kevin,
I have a question about the dynamic jaw. From your prior post, Craig's Prentiss 20 has replaceable jaw inserts on both the static and dynamic jaws. The best that I can tell, my Prentiss 20 does not have replaceable jaws on the dynamic jaw. I included a picture of Craig's vise from your earlier post and 3 photos of mine. Does this make sense, am I missing something, or is it simply an older configuration? BTW - the static jaw does use replaceable inserts like Craig's vise.

We might have to get Craig in on this one. Craig mentioned to me that my vise is very old because of where the text is located. But looking at yours it seems it might be older yet. You do not need the tapered pin like mine has and I would be surprised if the jaws I made would fit on your #20 vise. I would love to send you one to check for fitting. I try real hard to get these old jaws correct because it is expensive to produce hard junk jaws.