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Crawlin

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I liked the vidoes. Its good to have guys doing the testamonials,that people know or have seen. I have seen alot of those guys on Speed Tv for example, building nice stuff. I never knew there was that many gearwrenches out now. I have some of the first reversable sets and they are great for the money. I have a set of MACs that dont feel any better and were 2 or 3 times more. Now I am looking at getting some of those stubbys.
 

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Pretty slick videos. It looked liked you assembled some key members from Street Tuner Challenge and Chop Cut Rebuild off of Speed Channel. The videos were good but, unlike a Snap on video, you really didn't show the capability of the wrench. Yes, you showed people loosening nuts and bolts with ease but, you could have emphasized the fine 72 tooth 6 degree engagement angle more. You could have demonstrated on an engine obscurely positioned bolts where a socket and ratchet wouldn't fit but, a flexhead gearwrench, or stubby, half moon, or s shaped worked with ease. You could have demostrated the surface drive feature by either breaking a bolt loose with the open end or using the boxed end on a slightly rounded fastener (the lawyers might not like it). I like your tools and own most of your line. I use your tools daily. I noticed that the subject of country of origin was never brought up in the 11 minutes and 3 seconds of video. I always thought modern ratheting wrenches started with the Matco proswing series and not the Gearwrench line but, that's based more on exposure from the tool trucks that visited me than history. Keep up the good work. I'm waiting for you guys to come out with an X long, X beam Gearbox line of wrenches.:beer:
 

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"Credited with launching the ratcheting wrench"?

By whom? Ratcheting wrenches have been around a lot longer than GearWrench has.
 

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Nice videos. I had no idea you had that many products. I only have your flex combo ratcheting wrenches and sourced them many years ago. Great product but your videos lack some real evidence of how useful your tools are for access and speed.

I would have expected to see them being compared to the competition showing how yoru tool gets into areas other(s) can't or how the ratcheting action speeds the process into seconds versus many minutes with having to reposition the wrench for each couples inches of swing.

After seeing your website, I have a few more tools to add to the want list.
 

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good vids. I like to see tools in action and listen to the ratcheting.
 
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"Credited with launching the ratcheting wrench"?

By whom? Ratcheting wrenches have been around a lot longer than GearWrench has.

This point is regarding the modern forged ratcheting wrench. Yes, there were laminate wrenches before GearWrench, but they were no where near the market penetration of real, forged ratcheting wrenches of today.

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Steve
 

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This point is regarding the modern forged ratcheting wrench. Yes, there were laminate wrenches before GearWrench, but they were no where near the market penetration of real, forged ratcheting wrenches of today.

Thanks,
Steve

The statement should reflect that, then. "Credited with launching the modern ratcheting wrench" or "forged ratcheting wrench" would be acceptable.

As it is written, it is much too broad and simply untrue. I can't blame a company for promoting it's products, but any claims should be justified.

Just my opinion as a US consumer and potential customer.
 
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Still no real answer on six point ratcheting wrenches...

Six point ends on a ratcheting box wrench could be very annoying to engage the fastener in a tight spot. Even a six point socket can be a little annoying when you have to keep pulling it out and spinning the socket with your fingers a few degrees to get it to line up. With a ratcheting box wrench,this would be even more tedious.

If the fastener is really so tight that you need a 6 point wrench,then you should probably break it loose with a regular wrench or a socket anyway.
 

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I think the strength gained by a 6-point in this design would be minimal. The hex ring is pretty thin to minimize the overall size of the box end. A 6-point might reduce the number of stress risers, but not improve radial strength to any great degree.

Disclaimer - Of course, I am not an engineer.
 
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I really like my MAC 6 point flex wrenches. The 6 pt design is no awkward or hard to use at all.
 

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I think the strength gained by a 6-point in this design would be minimal. The hex ring is pretty thin to minimize the overall size of the box end. A 6-point might reduce the number of stress risers, but not improve radial strength to any great degree.

Disclaimer - Of course, I am not an engineer.

I am not an engineer either, but I think that the strength of the ratcheting mechanism would be the limiting factor in determining if a six point design would offer any advantage over a 12 point one. I have owned Gearwrenches since 1998 and I do not ever recall rounding a fastener with one. I have locked up a few by exerting too much torque a few times though.
 

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Six point ends on a ratcheting box wrench could be very annoying to engage the fastener in a tight spot. Even a six point socket can be a little annoying when you have to keep pulling it out and spinning the socket with your fingers a few degrees to get it to line up. With a ratcheting box wrench,this would be even more tedious.

If the fastener is really so tight that you need a 6 point wrench,then you should probably break it loose with a regular wrench or a socket anyway.

Thanks, thats a much better answer than the one provided by GearWrench Brand.
 

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Thanks, thats a much better answer than the one provided by GearWrench Brand.
There's nothing wrong with Steve's answer; I think that it is perfectly valid and explains their position adequately.

I also cannot see the point of a 6pt ratcheting wrench. Heck, I don't even see the point of a 6pt combination wrench at all. To prevent rounding out a fastener, use the open-end of a wrench. I think that it's better practice to use a non-ratcheting tool for an initial loosen or final tighten anyways.

If one is rounding out a fastener, or has to deal with one that's already rounded out, a ratcheting box end isn't ideally appropriate regardless of its design.
 

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There's nothing wrong with Steve's answer; I think that it is perfectly valid and explains their position adequately.

I also cannot see the point of a 6pt ratcheting wrench. Heck, I don't even see the point of a 6pt combination wrench at all. To prevent rounding out a fastener, use the open-end of a wrench. I think that it's better practice to use a non-ratcheting tool for an initial loosen or final tighten anyways.

If one is rounding out a fastener, or has to deal with one that's already rounded out, a ratcheting box end isn't ideally appropriate regardless of its design.

Thanks Stuey, I will ask you for answers to all my qustions next time.
 

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Thanks Stuey, I will ask you for answers to all my qustions next time.
There's a line, you know. At the current pace, I'll be able to answer your first question in the year 2013, probably around the last week of March, maybe the first week of April, depending on the weather and how complex Merkava's inquiries are.
 

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Still no real answer on six point ratcheting wrenches...

If you really want a 6 point ratcheting wrench, look at the Mac edge ratcheting wrenches. They feature a modified 6 point end with ridges to grip damaged fasteners. They're Taiwan made and come in a variety of shapes and sizes. They have a fine 72 tooth action so, positioning them on a fastener isn't really an issue. The open ends are also modified to grip fasteners better. They show up on ebay all the time and some go at bargain prices while others sell over retail for no rhyme or reason. I don't care for their reversing switches but, that's just me. Your results may vary.:beer:
 

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I'm with Will, ratcheting wrenches have been around a lot longer than gearwrench. Try like 30 years longer. I also like the part where they show the "competition", which is apparently a complete ***** who has never seen a wrench before, let alone used an open end to loosen a nut. Why do advertisers always feel that showing the other guy as complete **** is what will sell more product? It cheapens the product advertised, as far as I'm concerned. It was a well put together video, but I still won't be purchasing any gearwrench products, or anything else coming out of china.
 

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I still won't be purchasing any gearwrench products, or anything else coming out of china.
What brand of computer equipment do you use? Phone? What brand of clothes? Appliances?

In all seriousness, I'm only intending to be minorly antagonistic, I really am curious about whether any of these things are produced in the US, Canada, England, or similar.
 

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I know, I know. Most computer chips are produced in Taiwan (got mine from a custom computer maker in the US, with tech support in Wisconsin), my razr is from china (I need a new one soon, maybe I can find one made here? (yeah right)), clothes are from a variety of countries, none china, their fabric is always scratchy and stiff, but I finally found a good source for american made apparel, appliances I couldnt say, but if my father had any choice about where they were made, he bought american. It's becoming harder and harder to find everyday items produced here, or Canada, England, etc. For a country that became a superpower because of manufacturing might, we sure don't make much anymore.
 
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