need help with ideas for a shed thinking 12' X 14' HELP

[Jwestercamp]

View media item 30190So i have a decent sized garage but would like to get all of the lawn junk and stuff that migrates into the garage into a decent sized shed. I have a John Deere 455 with a 60" deck need to fit in here. Kids bikes, snow blower, yard goodies etc. I am thinking a 12' X 14' shed. Would also like to add a bonus loft in the shed. Any thoughts would be helpful. I have to make the shed portable so it will be on skids. I have seen some that the floor is 2X6 construction. Would like to add some type of design so the outside looks nice. Was thinking of doing a roll-up overhead door and maybe a 10' sidewall or 8' any input would be helpful thanks all!

 

[marty_p]

My $0.02:
12' W x 16' L x 8' sidewalls, then use a gambrel (barn) style roof for a nice loft!

 

[964haus]

I recently built a 10x16 on skids and added a shed dormer (no pun intended) on one side to match our main house (and to make it somewhat interesting). I built it using 2x6s laid on 3 skids.

Matthew.

 

[crazytrain]

figure on a size you think would work and build or buy a bigger one. You will fill it, I promise!

X2 on the loft.

 

[Always_Thinkin]

My $0.02:
12' W x 16' L x 8' sidewalls, then use a gambrel (barn) style roof for a nice loft!

X2. My father built a shed similar to this. We noticed two things that we should have built differently. First if we would have put a rollup door in both ends it would allowed for easier access to things because you will pack things in there. One door makes it difficult to get to things at the opposite end of the shed. The other was ventilation. I realize you won't spend a lot of time in there but when you do you don't want to be sweating your but off.

 

[Jwestercamp]

Matthew any photos of yours and anyone have a sense of overall costs. Thanks all

 

[vlpronj]

In mine, I've made a 2' high platform I can roll a push mower under. It would be useful to put any number things on the top of; as it happens I have another push mower on it at the moment.

 

[kbs2244]

Go to the book display at your local big box building supplu store.
The will have at least 5 books on shed building.
All styles and sizes.

 

[Kevin54]

In the house on the other computer I have a program I got online. You put in your dimensions you want and it will give you a complete material list plus how to cut all of the lumber to put it together.

I'll post it when I go in.

 

[theoldwizard1]

Floor joist should be at least 2x8 pressure treated.

Unless you like furry critters (raccoons, skunks, possums), you need to get it up off the ground by at least 12-18". Enough to let a lot of air and light underneath it

 

[Kevin54]

Floor joist should be at least 2x8 pressure treated.

Unless you like furry critters (raccoons, skunks, possums), you need to get it up off the ground by at least 12-18". Enough to let a lot of air and light underneath it

Our shed is a 12' x 16' and has 7' walls. When we bought the house it was sitting on a bed of gravel. A couple of years later we moved the shed. I had a guy come with two skid loaders to move it. He laid down a rather thick pile of crushed stone, #57's which are about 3/4" in size. He leveled the stone and set the shed on it. It has been setting there for probably 6 years now and has not shifted on bit. It's flush down on the gravel. The floor is made out of 4"x4" treated lumber and has tongue and groove flooring screwed down with deck screws. If you raise it up off of the ground, you'll be sure to have the varmits taking up residency under there.

 

[svronthmve]

PT 2x4 joists spaced 12-16" on center over 2 to 3 4x4's running lengthwise is more than adequate support for a shed frame sitting on the ground or gravel. Using 2x8's is just plain overbuilding it and adding cost. Use 3/4" decking and you'll have no problems holding mowers, power equipment, etc.

 

[Nelson58]

What about building it on a concrete slab? Overkill? You use tapcons to secure PT bottom plates for the 2x4 stud walls, frame on 16" centers like a house.

Nelson

 

[964haus]

Matthew any photos of yours and anyone have a sense of overall costs. Thanks all

Here's a link to my build - I tried to be fairly detailed just in case someone was looking to do the same. I know when I was doing mine, a few photos from some members around here really helped.

http://garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=163328

I haven't updated in a bit but since the last entry I added VCT flooring and I'm getting ready to build a workbench.

I will try to put some thought to price - partly don't want to know but I'm guessing in the $7-9K range. Can look through receipts a bit more....

Hope this helps,
Matthew.

 

[964haus]

Also, re critters. Once I did the floor, I went around the perimeter adding wire mesh - I stapled it to the floor, then dug down about 6-8" and bent the wire to form an 'L' . I then back filled with road gravel to prevent digging. No signs of entry..

M.

 

[Jwestercamp]

so here is an update found out that anything over 70 soft have to have a building permit. Thinking about doing a 14' X 16' wont cost much more. Thinking am going to pour a slab i believe that i and do that for not much more than building a floor. Any thoughts i think i can do a 4" slab for around 3 per sq/ft or a little less. Think a found a deal on an overhead door. The door will be 8 wide by 7 tall, and $300 installed. Just trying to decided on sidewall height and roof slope thinking of an 8' and have storage in the trussesss. thanks

 

[Kevin54]

Sorry I didn't get back to you last night. I came into the house, ate, was talking to the wife and ended up dozing off. Here is the site I was telling you about http://www.deplans.com/plans/ click on the red links on the left side to get to the program you want. If you click on the pictures theirself, they'll just give you plans for the picture. The links on the left let you input your own size then it will generate the cut pattern and material list.

 

[CNGsaves]

so here is an update found out that anything over 70 soft have to have a building permit. Thinking about doing a 14' X 16' wont cost much more. Thinking am going to pour a slab i believe that i and do that for not much more than building a floor. Any thoughts i think i can do a 4" slab for around 3 per sq/ft or a little less. Think a found a deal on an overhead door. The door will be 8 wide by 7 tall, and $300 installed. Just trying to decided on sidewall height and roof slope thinking of an 8' and have storage in the trussesss. thanks

Once you pour concrete and attach building, you now have PERMANENT Building according to real estate tax treatment in my neck of the woods. Of course the shed will be a lot nicer, but realize that your Real Estate taxes are going to go up since this will be taxable square footage just like a detached garage. Around here the portable sheds are popular since the county can't tax you any more.

I'd make a "mystery call" to your local real estate tax department and see what annual taxes are going to be on permanent slab storage building. That will help you decide whether to go skids or slab.

 

[msgross]

I bought my 8x16 shed locally for $1300 delivered (painted to match house). Wish I would have gone with 12x16... I did the dutch barn style roof and added my own loft on each end... My JD 316 just rolls in the front wo make sure you have plenty of width for the doors...

mine looks like this but longer... http://myerstownsheds.com/the-high-barn.html

placed it on a gravel pad.

 

[Jwestercamp]

well unfortunagely here anything over 70 sq/ft is taxable on skids or not i thought i would be safe and was going to do the wood floor route but found that out figured i might as well pull a permit and build it the way i want it. Going down to pull the permit today. Hopefully pour the slab within the next week or so. I will post photos if people want. I am thinking of 14' x 16' or 14' x 18' thinki it wont cost much more to do the 16 or 18 over the 14 originally but i just dont want the thing to look to crazy and have the neighbors bitching. Hmm. Any thoughts?

 

[38Chevy454]

Since std lumber dimensions are 4x8, or 8 ft length, try to make your size to be 8 ft high walls, and the floorplan to be 12x16 for example. Minimizes cutoff loss. At least make it a half interval of 4 ft, like 14x16. You can use 24 inch wall stud spacing unless you live in some crazy weather area.

I don't have any pictures, but I built a 12x16 at one of my old houses and used the Hardi-panel for siding. The 8 ft walls and even 4 ft dimensions means a lot less cutting of the panels. I did mine raised on the precast concrete deck piers, but I sunk them down into the ground on top of 2x2 cast pieces. I used 2x8 PT floor studs and put my door as two 4 ft wide doors on the 16 ft wall. Made it real easy to get things in and out, incl small yard tractor.

 

[PCO6]

figure on a size you think would work and build or buy a bigger one. You will fill it, I promise!

X2 on the loft.

I agree. I built my shed at 10'x16'. That's so close to a 1 car garage that I soon realize that that's what I should have done!

 

[JimVonBaden]

Sorry I didn't get back to you last night. I came into the house, ate, was talking to the wife and ended up dozing off. Here is the site I was telling you about http://www.deplans.com/plans/ click on the red links on the left side to get to the program you want. If you click on the pictures theirself, they'll just give you plans for the picture. The links on the left let you input your own size then it will generate the cut pattern and material list.

Very interesting. Thanks Kevin!

Jim

 

[Jwestercamp]

I am struggling with this as well. I have a nice 3.5 stall garage that is about 1,200 sq/ft already and where this shed will be going i can not get a car into anyway. But it would always be nice to have that option. I think i am going to go with the 14' x 16' going down for plans today. I am hoping if i do most of the labor myself i can built this thing for around $10 sq/ft any thoughouts?

 

[Kevin54]

I have a 12' x 16' with 7' walls and about a 4/12 pitch roof. My buddy has a 12' x 16' shed, but his is made like a barn. He has 7' walls, but he has a 1/3 loft area. It gives him way more room to store items than mine does. His doors are on the long wall in the center, so in the other end that didn't have a loft, he made a 3' loft. When winter comes, a lot of our outdoor items goes into the shed. I'm lucky if I can get to the back of it. So a loft is something to really consider for storage.

 

[Nelson58]

Sorry I didn't get back to you last night. I came into the house, ate, was talking to the wife and ended up dozing off. Here is the site I was telling you about http://www.deplans.com/plans/ click on the red links on the left side to get to the program you want. If you click on the pictures theirself, they'll just give you plans for the picture. The links on the left let you input your own size then it will generate the cut pattern and material list.

Kevin, that site rocks- what a time saver. Thanks!!

Nelson

 

[Jwestercamp]

OK went downt to the buidling department max size is 12' X 18' so that is what i am going to go for. I got my building permit. Now i need to start preping the site getting it ready for the shed. Going with a barn style look i thinkg that should be pretty cool. Going to have one overhead door which will be a 8' wide by 7' tall and it is going to be a carriage style to dress it up a bit. Going with 4' X 8' siding the cement board that i will paint. Any thoughts so far?

 

[Jwestercamp]

Kevin, What do yo think of the 12' x 16' are you happy or wish you would have done a 12' x 18'? thinking the 2 feet is cheap but dont want it to look wierd

 

[Kevin54]

Kevin, What do yo think of the 12' x 16' are you happy or wish you would have done a 12' x 18'? thinking the 2 feet is cheap but dont want it to look wierd

A 12' x 18' won't look any different than a 12' x 16' really. The shed was with the property when we moved here 20 years ago. But to be truthful, although it is a great shed, my buddy's shed that iis built in the barn shape with the loft(s), I'm actually jealous,. Even though the footprint is the same size, he can probably pack twice as much **** into his than I can.

If you can go 12' x 18' Max, I would take it to that size. And if you can build a barn style shed so you have overhead storage, then take that to the limits also. You can NEVER have TOO much storage.

 

[crf731]

Here are a couple of photos of the 10 x 20 shed I just built.

I was allowed 200 sq ft without a permit. I wanted to park my compact tractor in it so I didn't really want a wooden floor. Decided to built it like a small pole shed with a gravel floor.

I'm not quite done with the trim on the door end yet, but it didn't turn out to bad.

The lumber was about 500.00

The sheet metal i ordered cut to size once it was framed and was about 1300.00

 

[Jwestercamp]

Thanks Kevin that is what i am going to do. Getting excited about the build it will take me a week or so to get the site ready. I will upload photos as i progress.

 

[Kevin54]

Thanks Kevin that is what i am going to do. Getting excited about the build it will take me a week or so to get the site ready. I will upload photos as i progress.

Yep....that's a requirement of this site. Any building, construction, deconstruction, fabrication, or just basic "check this out" requires pics.

Looking forward to seeing it.

 

[Jwestercamp]

i look forward to getting it all up. I am planning on running power to the shed that way i can put up some yard lights and interior lights. I just got a smokn deal on an 8' X 7' overhead door $400 installed, and it will have windows insulated, and is it a "carriage house" look it is a demo door, and just bought shingles to match my house 1/2 price. excited. Need to do some more deal scoping to save some $$ on this project The city issued the permit today. They asked due to size and overhead door if it will be a garage, i said no and they went out and doubble checked to make sure there wasnt a driveway to it. Sad part is this thing is bigger than the garage in my first house. I had a mustang which barely fit. In this shed i can fit a mustang plus a quad LOL

 

[JustinS]

Sorry I didn't get back to you last night. I came into the house, ate, was talking to the wife and ended up dozing off. Here is the site I was telling you about http://www.deplans.com/plans/ click on the red links on the left side to get to the program you want. If you click on the pictures theirself, they'll just give you plans for the picture. The links on the left let you input your own size then it will generate the cut pattern and material list.

I tried to access that site and can't, is it down for everyone else?

 

[Jwestercamp]

Ok Status update, got a bunch of trees dropped sawed up, and a buddy of mine let me borrow his bobcat to level the site. Alot of work now it looks like i may have to put in a partial retaining wall because we are into the hill alot more than we wanted to be. Here are some photos of work so far

 

[Jwestercamp]

any know how to attach photos?

 

[Kevin54]

I tried to access that site and can't, is it down for everyone else?

I tried it and it works for me. If you are using Opera for your browser, look down in the left hand corner of your monitor.

 

[J Banning]

subscribed!

Looking to do a shed of my own of similar size this year since I'm out of room in my garage.

 

[Jwestercamp]

trying to upload a few photos update the concrete is done

 

[Jwestercamp]

can anyone walk me thru moving photos from my album to here