Outlawmws
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Nice job, now you need to get onto the pipe vise. Then mount it on a 2X4 and when you need it clamp it in the craftsman...
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Nice job, now you need to get onto the pipe vise. Then mount it on a 2X4 and when you need it clamp it in the craftsman...
Mark in Indiana
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Pipe vises are great for reworking the spindle / handle, as long as you wrap a rag around the area where the clamping takes place. The 2 x 4 idea is a good one. Here's a picture of how I mounted mine:
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ZRX61
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My newest score of the day, a Record No.5
This is my first English vise and my first Record.
Does anybody have a suggestion for the correct color of blue it should be painted?
Mine is painted the same color as the Columbian in post #8201. It's a rattlecan color from Lowes or Casa Cheapo. Looks much better than the original blue.
bigcaddy
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Any ideas on how to properly break this thing down? With the dynamic jaws back end closed, i can't get it past the threaded nut inside the stationary jaw. I've never pulled one apart and can't seem to figure out the procedure to get it in pieces and back together.
Who the hell designed these damn things anyways? Leave it to the English to take a simple idea, re-invent it and make sure it gives everybody a headache.
Ill be patiently awaiting my instructions to disassemble and a verbal beatdown from our members across the pond.
phy6
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Prentiss 23 now in service.
Threw some paint on her the other day, just to get her in service. Later, when I finish the other vises, I'll go back and do a proper restore with smooth paint (I wanted to do it in Lamborghini Orange Pearl). For now, some bling to grab people's attention.
A 2 liter bottle for scale.
Threw some paint on her the other day, just to get her in service. Later, when I finish the other vises, I'll go back and do a proper restore with smooth paint (I wanted to do it in Lamborghini Orange Pearl). For now, some bling to grab people's attention.
A 2 liter bottle for scale.
va.grouseman
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Phy6 Any Idea what the wholes on the side of the swivel jaw are for? 2 on one side and 1 on the other. Other Prentiss' have those to.
A couple of vises I cleaned up. The Yost just got a basic cleaning, paint is decent so it will be left alone. The Yost is in nice shape, not beat up and wellded, the slide is very ncie compared to some that were used as anvils! The 3.5" Wilton Bullet got a full disassembly, bead blast and wire wheel to ready it for sale.
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phy6
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Not sure. They don't seem threaded. Maybe they used to have an add on attachment? Or it could have been used to hold that piece in a jig while the swivel was being machined, it's kind of an odd shaped piece.
I have been wondering the same, locating holes for machining.
demographic
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Any ideas on how to properly break this thing down? With the dynamic jaws back end closed, i can't get it past the threaded nut inside the stationary jaw. I've never pulled one apart and can't seem to figure out the procedure to get it in pieces and back together.
Who the hell designed these damn things anyways? Leave it to the English to take a simple idea, re-invent it and make sure it gives everybody a headache.
Ill be patiently awaiting my instructions to disassemble and a verbal beatdown from our members across the pond.
Any use to you?
Mark in Indiana
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. While making a pitch to sell my Athol 324 1/2 x vise last night, the customer said that it was too much vise for him I replied that having too much vise is like having too much money. Since quality vises are hard to find in my area, I think he will be back. I thought you guys would like hearing about someone not wanting too much vise.Outlawmws
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Maybe he needs a fly tying vise? 
bigcaddy
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Yes!! Thats what i was thinking of doing but it didn't seem right so i figured i would ask here. Thanks again and keep your eyes out for some more pictures later today. I've been tying up some loose ends in the garage the past few days, in between chores
bigcaddy
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Isn't that rich! You should of asked him if he buys his sockets one at time, for when he encounters a new size bolt head.
Then again, an Athol 4.5" vise, compared to a typical Craftsman 4" vise that a homeowner is going to have, is a difference of 55+ pounds. I remember my first Athol 4.5" and it was a beast. I've got a few more in the shop, on the floor, where they will stay since i'm not going to pick them up.
Maybe it is "too much vise" for his little garage bench.
Mark in Indiana
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Isn't that rich! You should of asked him if he buys his sockets one at time, for when he encounters a new size bolt head.
Then again, an Athol 4.5" vise, compared to a typical Craftsman 4" vise that a homeowner is going to have, is a difference of 55+ pounds. I remember my first Athol 4.5" and it was a beast. I've got a few more in the shop, on the floor, where they will stay since i'm not going to pick them up.
Maybe it is "too much vise" for his little garage bench.
I will agree that my Athol would be too heavy for use on my roller cabinet or trailer hitch mount. However he needed one on his bench...unless it's a Fisher-Price bench
bigcaddy
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I just finished up half of my Prenitss 56 that i picked up a few weeks ago at a sale.
I still have the dynamic jaw to address but that will get tackled later this week, after i break apart that Record No.5 and get him prepped.
The Prentiss is in great shape with most of the damage to the jaw inserts being on the upper 1/2" leaving the lower portion with a good amount of bite to them.
I still have the dynamic jaw to address but that will get tackled later this week, after i break apart that Record No.5 and get him prepped.
The Prentiss is in great shape with most of the damage to the jaw inserts being on the upper 1/2" leaving the lower portion with a good amount of bite to them.
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Mark in Indiana
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Well, he came back and bought a Craftsman 4-1/2" vise instead. Ended up a win - win.
johnfrankl
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I just picked up a 4.5" jaw vise in good working condition with the following markings:
"L M & V CO
LOWSVILLE, NY"
I suppose the "55" is the model number, and I have seen similar listed as "Fulton," but none with these markings. I am assuming they stand for "Lowsville Machine & Vise Co" but any information would be greatly appreciated.
"L M & V CO
LOWSVILLE, NY"
I suppose the "55" is the model number, and I have seen similar listed as "Fulton," but none with these markings. I am assuming they stand for "Lowsville Machine & Vise Co" but any information would be greatly appreciated.
Builderrhys
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Some of mine, Record No 0, No 1, No 2, No 3, No 4 and a 112. I seem to use the Record No 3 more than any other. Regards, Rhys.
just picked this Wilton C1 up date coded 6-84 couldn't get him ant lower then $200 he started at $350 theres no hammer or drill marks no wear on it and 2 little grinder marks on the serrated jaw, and 2 small marks on the front jaw it self the paint is really hiddeous and thick but i looked the vise over pretty carefull and this thing should clean up real nice
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KMScott
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Great Buy tedster, Imagine losing out over $25-$50 on that vise. That vise will last you your lifetime. A cheap price to pay for years of quality clamping. Good job and post more pictures when you finish restoring it.
yea i think i did good on this C1 and its in pretty darn good shape usually when you find a big vise with pipe jaws the vise has had the snot beat out of it this one looks like it has had minimal use i think i will build a set of A2 TOOL STEEL
smooth faced jaws for this one too and put the vise on the mill and clean the anvil up on it.
i will post more pics as i make progress
smooth faced jaws for this one too and put the vise on the mill and clean the anvil up on it.
i will post more pics as i make progress
KMScott
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tedster, How hard do you heat treat them jaws to. Did you make them 3/4 thick. I like smooth jaws to. Serrated jaws are not to popular in machine shops.
i didn't heat treat them A2 is pretty hard before heat treated,they may get some smuck marks on them but not like cold rold, there like 7/8 if they get smucked up to bad i can reface them and counter sink the holes a little more its easier then making another pair
we have 8' 400 wiltons at work i work in a proto type shop and 1' 450 wilton
3 have cold rold jaws the rest A2 the cold jaws don't hold up good at all the A2 works pretty good without heat treat.
the pipe jaws are heat treated.
A2 is harder to heat treat its a longer process then doing 4140 or other steel
the A2 heat treat is not in house where i work
Derrickwade
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My new project. It is a 1760 and the date on it is July of 1983.
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Project?!
Spray it with some degreaser; pressure wash; reassemble with fresh lube. Good for another 30 years.
I remember the summer of '83...
Derrickwade
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spent21
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I cleaned mine up this past week:
Mechanically, she's in really good shape... Cosmetically, she's been abused.
My dad brought two of these home when I was a kid. He still uses an identical one in his shop, although his is in better shape than this one. I snagged this one around '06 since it was still in his storage, I needed a vise, he wasn't using it, but more importantly, he wasn't around.
Mechanically, she's in really good shape... Cosmetically, she's been abused.
My dad brought two of these home when I was a kid. He still uses an identical one in his shop, although his is in better shape than this one. I snagged this one around '06 since it was still in his storage, I needed a vise, he wasn't using it, but more importantly, he wasn't around.
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ZRX61
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Any ideas on how to properly break this thing down? With the dynamic jaws back end closed, i can't get it past the threaded nut inside the stationary jaw. I've never pulled one apart and can't seem to figure out the procedure to get it in pieces and back together.
Who the hell designed these damn things anyways? Leave it to the English to take a simple idea, re-invent it and make sure it gives everybody a headache.
Ill be patiently awaiting my instructions to disassemble and a verbal beatdown from our members across the pond.
It's been a while, but you have to release the threaded nut before you can separate the static from the dynamic.
*Assembly is the reverse of disassembly"
bigcaddy
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It's been a while, but you have to release the threaded nut before you can separate the static from the dynamic.
*Assembly is the reverse of disassembly"
Thanks, ZRX61 and the others that lead me in the right direction. I just finished pulling the thing apart and cleaning it. The paint was actually in excellent shape, just hidden beneath a 1/8" thick layer of grease and crud. Too bad i used a harsh cleaner and it faded the paint but the surface rust already warranted a repaint so its not a total loss
I'm off to hopefully purchase the paint now
scottbob
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Well, it did loosen up! My first vise restoration...worth the effort for sure. I know that's not the factory color but I'm into IH and have a couple cases of IH red sitting here. This thing works like its brand new! Does anyone know if these vises only had a lockdown on one side? The other side had a plug in it that looked so good I didn't even know there was a hole there until I tore it down.
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Outlawmws
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HTGT, How do you get everything to stick to the wall like that? If I could do that I could probably double the available floor space in my garage!
va.grouseman
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I'll bet the whole wall is one big magnet.