The VISES of Garage Journal
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wrenchguy
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i can't find zoomies c1, where r u guys seeing it? zoomie pm sent. thanks.
EOC_Jason
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J HAV
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Mark in Indiana
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^^^what he said^^^.
Steevo
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Quite a while ago, I posted a couple of pics of a Columbian 203-1/2 that I picked up at a yard sale:
I finally got around to sandblasting, cleaning, painting and re-assembling the vise:
Here it is lined up with a few friends:
I finally got around to sandblasting, cleaning, painting and re-assembling the vise:
Here it is lined up with a few friends:
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Outlawmws
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Nice job Steevo!
zoomieport
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Well done SteevO!
ssffnomad
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Dude, nice work.
GETRIDAONE
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[/URLtoolfanatic
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Here is a "Paramo" No.3 which I picked up today, 4" jaws and pretty much in perfect condition bar some light surface rust. I'm debating whether I'll bother repainting, might just clean off the grime and grease it up for use. I couldn't believe the condition of it when I got it home, it's so rare here to see one of these (or a Record) second hand that hasn't been abused or had a hard life. Happy days!
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zoomieport
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EOC_Jason
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OOooooo.... Ahhhhh......
That one is a total junker, just throw it in a box and send it to me...
zoomieport
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OOooooo.... Ahhhhh......
That one is a total junker, just throw it in a box and send it to me...
Don't get me wrong, this one is nice... But that 1952 was a peach!!!
KMScott
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Zoomie
How did the one pipe jaw you were looking for work out. Did you locate where to pick up the clips. I should think about making them if they are hard to find. I can not tell by the pictures if they are both new or did you replace just one. You keep forgetting to show the jaws. Another great job, you guy's are lucky to be in a place where you can find these big guys. One C2 sold out here last week for $735. at a auction, it was nice but to much for me.
Kevin
How did the one pipe jaw you were looking for work out. Did you locate where to pick up the clips. I should think about making them if they are hard to find. I can not tell by the pictures if they are both new or did you replace just one. You keep forgetting to show the jaws. Another great job, you guy's are lucky to be in a place where you can find these big guys. One C2 sold out here last week for $735. at a auction, it was nice but to much for me.
Kevin
zoomieport
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Kevin,
I ended up buying a new set from Wilton (ouch!)...
I didn't post the jaws before because they are decidedly unexciting... I was just browsing your website http://wiltonviseparts.net/ and without measuring, I am assuming the 450 jaws fit the C1... Do you know?
Anyway, here are the pictures of the jaws, I know the serations are your thing, but these aren't that great... looks like I might be in the market for a new set from you...
I just sent you an email and I am on my way to the post office, expect a package...
Thanks!
Mike
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zoomieport
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By the way Kevin... I need jaws for my Morgan 180, 160, 150, 145, 140, 135 and 130!!! Looks like you'll be working the weekend! HAHAHA!
EOC_Jason
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If only someone had the vision to stock up on vise jaws 50+ years ago on these old vises before the companies went out of business, they could of made serious bank today...
Low Friction
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Of course Morgan still supplies replacement jaw inserts for their vises from yesteryear. Slab/T/U style.
toomanytoyzz
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Just got back from picking this guy up for $25. Here's the CL ad http://baltimore.craigslist.org/tls/3840140491.html. With no pics I wasn't too confident UNTIL he sent one over via text messaging. Ten minutes later I was heading to Maryland to pick it up. To me, it's more neglected (left outside) than abused which if I had a choice when shopping for a $25 bullet I'd pick the neglected one. Gonna give it the needed tear down, molasses bath and paint to put her back in duty. I'll be sure to post up the finished product.
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KMScott
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Where would I find these jaws you are talking about. The only place I found that mentions Morgan vises is this site. http://www.milwmal.com/v_mach.htm Doing a Google image search does not come up with any pictures either. I would be interested in purchasing a set.
zoomieport
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KMScott
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He Zoomie, you are correct. The new style C1 has 5/8 x 1=1/4 x 4-1/2 jaws. But if your vise is the old style that has the Chicago on the casting then the jaw sizes would be 5/8 x 1.0 x 4-1/2 both with 5/16:18 screws.
Thanks for the pictures and a mention of my site. Look forward to your American Standard jaw insert.
Kevin
KMScott
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Thanks Mike. I will give them a call.
Hy guys! This is my first post in your great Vises forum. Let me introduce myself: My name is Dimitar - everybody call me Mite or Mitko, i'm 18 - years old and i'm from Bulgaria. I usually write in Tools from the old world forum. I just Love tools and everything linked with them. I have a two workshops and a lot of tools. I work seriously with vises since 3 years and today i already have 4 bulgarian and two chinese vises. I'll show you my vises after time because pics of them are on the other PC.
Greeting from Bulgaria!
Greeting from Bulgaria!
Mark in Indiana
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Welcome Mite. I assume that you will have some interesting Bulgarian vises. Looking forward to the pictures.
EOC_Jason
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Finally blasted off the static jaw on this Parker Union 974-1/2... Just a few little cut marks, but otherwise very clean and not abused... So nice to use a blasting cabinet hooked up to a 15HP compressor, no longer do I have to wait for it to build up pressure... 
Pics were before I wiped it down and put on some primer. (The heat & humidity here in Texas means any bare metal will start rusting quick!)
I really want to paint it the hammered verde green like a wilton but can't find the paint anywhere. I'm going to try hitting up one more Lowes today before giving up and going with a different color...
Color suggestions?
Pics were before I wiped it down and put on some primer. (The heat & humidity here in Texas means any bare metal will start rusting quick!)
I really want to paint it the hammered verde green like a wilton but can't find the paint anywhere. I'm going to try hitting up one more Lowes today before giving up and going with a different color...
Color suggestions?
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Rusty Musket
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zoomieport
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Rusty,
Wild A$$ guess...
That Parker has three mounting holes and a round base, therefore it can be mounted stationary, or fit with a swivel base.
All of the Parkers I've had, seem to me, were either... "cornered or stationary" or swivel base, they weren't able to do both...
I'm sure a Parker expert will be along soon to assist!
Mike
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Rusty Musket
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Thanks Mike. I am heading out now. I need another vise like a hole in the head but I do have a soft spot for Parkers. The script on this one (not shown in pics) is not as pretty as some of the older ones but the vise is close-by so probably worth a look.
EOC_Jason
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It is a later model... You can tell by the collar on the front, it looks like a piece of flat steel instead of their fancy cast curvy piece.
Don't know if the A's were Union Mfg or not... Would be nice if there was a pic of the other side.
Don't know if the A's were Union Mfg or not... Would be nice if there was a pic of the other side.
wrenchguy
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Back in May I was asking about the "B" on a recent parker/union 975B, my guess is someone may have to come up with sales catalogs from that time frame to determine what the A's & B's mean. good luck, nice vise u got there, here's mine.
psychob0b1977
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Back in May I was asking about the "B" on a recent parker/union 975B, my guess is someone may have to come up with sales catalogs from that time frame to determine what the A's & B's mean. good luck, nice vise u got there, here's mine.
just a little observation here,
the 974a pictured is NON-swivel.
the 975B pictured on the otherhand is a swivel base.
maybe the "a" is a non-swivel designation, and the "b" is a designation for swivel.
wrenchguy
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psycho, from what i know, (ain't much) the 2nd number in the 3 digit model number indicated whether it was a swivel model. 7's were swivels, 5's were fixed. I seen in past pages A's on swivel bases. thanks.
2nd look, his "A" does looks to have a reinforced boss all the way to the edge of the base, where mine ain't. guessing here.....
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Rusty Musket
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Thanks for the input everyone! I went and looked at it last night but did not bring it home. It was the first Parker I have seen with that very simple flat steel collar. The half-round collar with "Parker" written on it is one of my favorite features of these vises so I was a bit disappointed to find it absent. The bottom of the base is machined flat with a hole in the center. The hole was stuffed with crud so I did not verify that it was threaded but I would guess that it is and maybe once had a swivel base. The original handle is long gone and there is just a large bent bolt in there now. I will probably pass on this one and finish the projects I have already.
Here is the link if anyone else is interested.
http://portland.craigslist.org/clc/for/3857591774.html
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EOC_Jason
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Yes, the #'s identify the swivel or stationary and jaw size...
Difference from A to B that I can see:
1. Reinforced boss on the back on the A
2. The hardened jaws mate to the casting at different angles
3. Front collar & face is different
Taking a stab in the dark it seems like they tweaked the design to simplify the casting shape and machining of the jaws. (Thus reducing costs)
Difference from A to B that I can see:
1. Reinforced boss on the back on the A
2. The hardened jaws mate to the casting at different angles
3. Front collar & face is different
Taking a stab in the dark it seems like they tweaked the design to simplify the casting shape and machining of the jaws. (Thus reducing costs)
wrenchguy
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it must be a late parker just b4 union buy out. with aluminum model tag, i was thinking that tag was union/parker. just guessing..... good luck.
isn't that late 974 worth $65.00?
isn't that late 974 worth $65.00?
EOC_Jason
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Sure, if it had the swivel base and the handle wasn't a long bolt...