King Tony M7 or Klutch impacts

[ex-x-fire]

I found 1 post about the M7 on here, a bunch of guys said they were ordering them. Anyone have an opinion on them yet? Are the more compact then the Klutch impact? The only measurements I found was the stem to stern measurement, 4 9/16" for the M7 & 4 7/8" for the Klutch. They rate the M7 100ft/lbs higher & it cost more.
What about those super short sockets that King Tony has too.

 

[JJThrasher]

I want the M7 it looks good. Sady its not in my box yet.

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[BK13]

I played around with an M7 at a local shop the other day. I might have to get one, it was pretty nice.

No experience with the Klutch.

 

[AmericanPreferred]

I have the Klutch, it has a lot of hit IMO. It does measure slightly bigger than the M7, but the hook on the top makes it taller than M7 (I ground mine off the first day), and the selector switch is abnormally thick on the back making it slightly longer than the M7. Both are from Tiawan. Same maker with contract issues? That dang hook is pretty odd on an impact that was made to be small. The M7 costs roughly twice as much, and only has one reverse speed where the Klutch has 3. I have been looking for a parts diagram for the M7 to compare, no luck so far. My shallow impact sockets are just a little longer than the KT's. If I need one shallower I will cut it down, so far no need though.

 

[deltaphisig]

A hobby user here, but I am VERY pleased with my Klutch compact gun. I use it for near everything I can put a socket on. Fast, powerful, and light enough to use all the time. Only time I had an issue was getting a flywheel off an engine. Honestly, I was more worried about cracking the flywheel with the puller than I was about lack of power. Keep it oiled and it will do just fine.

 

[Tarheelgarage]

I use the Klutch super short quite a bit in the shop for tight areas and it has a lot of balls for it's size.

I bought it last year at Northern Tool on sale for $69

The case/body is scratched all to hell but it has not let me down.

 

[TDWendt]

I abuse my m7 every day. Love it.

 

[ex-x-fire]

Will either of these handle lug nuts, caliper bolts, strut bolts, ect without too much trouble? I'm using an old mac (IR 244 version) that's rated at 490ft/lbs, it plenty strong but heavy & bulky.

 

[AmericanPreferred]

I have been trying to compare mine with my IR2135ti. My plan was to tighten a nut and bolt till it quit, then see if the IR will tighten it further, problem is the angry little gun just strips or breaks whatever bolt I have used so far. Half inch grade 5 was the largest good bolt I had laying around, no match for the Klutch. I am going to say I think it will do the things you mentioned. I would still love to see an ipl for the M7, see if it has a spring loaded motor like the Klutch.

 

[SMKS]

Will either of these handle lug nuts, caliper bolts, strut bolts, ect without too much trouble? I'm using an old mac (IR 244 version) that's rated at 490ft/lbs, it plenty strong but heavy & bulky.

Well, the M7 model in question is rated at 450 ft-lbs, according to the manufacturer. I can't vouch for that, though, as I've never used it.

http://www.mighty-seven.com/products/detail.asp?id=284&uID=1&cID=2&M=0

 

[Skin]

I find it odd they only make 1/2" versions of it. The thing is smaller than an MG325. 3/8" anvil versions first would seem to make more sense.

 

[AmericanPreferred]

There is a 3/8 version of the M7. Tooltopia offers both. Right around $150 each. I have seen the 1/2 about $135ish on Amazon. Not the same as the Klutch on the inside. Thanks for the ipl link.

 

[SMKS]

I find it odd they only make 1/2" versions of it. The thing is smaller than an MG325. 3/8" anvil versions first would seem to make more sense.

They do make a 3/8" version.


http://www.mighty-seven.com/products/detail.asp?id=391&uID=1&cID=1&M=0

 

[Skin]

oh neat, will have to try one sometime. They don't list it on the King Tony site for some reason.

 

[jfcasey]

A couple of my co-workers have m7 guns and beat the snot out of them. One of them blew it up in about 2 years of use on a lube rack I.E. rotated tires on ~15 cars 5 days per week, the other guy has had his for 3 or 4 years and still uses it daily.

I find them pretty nice but don't have the cash for a second gun. One thing that stands out aside from the size is how fast they are.. or atleast sound. They feel like they hit twice as fast as my IR 2135 does.

 

[ex-x-fire]

So I'm thinking, for the price & size of the m7, the performance & durability is pretty good. Thanks for the opinions.

 

[Marlin]

I have been trying to compare mine with my IR2135ti. My plan was to tighten a nut and bolt till it quit, then see if the IR will tighten it further, problem is the angry little gun just strips or breaks whatever bolt I have used so far. Half inch grade 5 was the largest good bolt I had laying around, no match for the Klutch. I am going to say I think it will do the things you mentioned. I would still love to see an ipl for the M7, see if it has a spring loaded motor like the Klutch.

Not really a good way to compare the two, as most IR impacts are biased to get more power in reverse than forward.

 

[Skin]

This is a very small impact, I like that a lot. Not balanced real well (the entire body is metal) but to be expected considering there isn't much room to spread weight out.

M7 Paper Specs
Torque Range 100-300 Foot Pounds
Max Torque 350 Foot Pounds
Free Speed 8000RPM (curiously the sticker on the back of the tool says 9000)
Sound Pressure 85dBA
Vibration 2.8m/S
COO Taiwan
Price:$140.00

MG325 Paper Specs
Torque Range 100(?)-325 Foot Pounds
Max Torque 425 Foot Pounds
Free Speed 10700RPM
Sound Pressure 99.1 (Can be muffled though)
Vibration 4.54m/S
COO USA with global components.
Price $409.00

So on paper the 325 seems to be a bit stronger. Keep in mind though the M7 is essentially muffled all the time while the MG325 muffler, when installed, will reduce its torque output and RPM specs from those listed. I'll be comparing the two for awhile, and I do use my 325 muffled as I like my hearing, so we'll see how they actually compare.

Took some quick comparison shots of it and an MG325.

 

[TheGrooveking]

Thanks for posting the pics, please let us know how they compare in actual use.

TheGrooveking

 

[ex-x-fire]

So Skin, you got the 3/8 version? The 1/2 is rated at 500 & the 3/8 is rated at 350ft/lbs. I wonder whats different to cause a loss of 150 ft/lbs. They look the same, besides the square drive.
Speaking of impacts, what does bolt capacity mean? The largest size of bolt it'll break?

 

[Skin]

So Skin, you got the 3/8 version? The 1/2 is rated at 500 & the 3/8 is rated at 350ft/lbs. I wonder whats different to cause a loss of 150 ft/lbs. They look the same, besides the square drive.
Speaking of impacts, what does bolt capacity mean? The largest size of bolt it'll break?

The paper specs are certainly suspect. The regular 4610 (1/2 version of what I got minus the quiet rating) is rated for 450 max torque and a working torque of 150-350. This makes more sense to me if its the same model as the 3/8" version but with either less or no muffler (hence higher torque) and a 1/2" drive anvil. Obviously the muffled version of the 4610Q isn't going to be more powerful than the non-muffled 4610.

I suspect the 4610Q is literally the same impact as the 3610Q with only different anvil sizes between the two and something has been lost in the translation when it comes to the specs found online.

Bolt capacity is essentially a suggested optimal size for the impact.

 

[Skin]

Hooked up a universal and fitting today, played with it a bit. Definitely slower in reverse than the MG325, hits about as hard in reverse as well. It absolutely hits harder than the MG325 in forward which is interesting. The feel of it impacting reminds me of the CAT2150.

Wish I had one of those torque boxes to give numbers, think the best i'll be able to manage is a torqueing down some bolts and seeing which has the easier time of removal.

 

[ex-x-fire]

If you give it a good review i'll buy one!

 

[ex-x-fire]

Hooked up a universal and fitting today, played with it a bit. Definitely slower in reverse than the MG325, hits about as hard in reverse as well. It absolutely hits harder than the MG325 in forward which is interesting. The feel of it impacting reminds me of the CAT2150.

Wish I had one of those torque boxes to give numbers, think the best i'll be able to manage is a torqueing down some bolts and seeing which has the easier time of removal.

What do you think of it after using it for awhile?

 

[Skin]

truthfully haven't used it much. Found it noticeably weaker in reverse than the 325 in terms of what it could break free so I tend to reach for the latter first. It would probably be more useful if rust wasn't welding every fastener to its component.

 

[ex-x-fire]

Hmmmm. I work in the rust belt too.

 

[01ps]

I have the m7 1/2". Don't use it every day ( I use my cordless milwaukee most of the time.

However it is a great gun and very powerful for its size. It'll do almost everything from axle nuts to caliper bolts to suspension. I can't think of a time it hasn't worked. I doubt it'd do a really rusted large bolt but it will work just fine for daily use. I'd compare it to a ratchet vs a breaker bar, you'd reach for a ratchet most of the time but you'd use the breaker bar for a really tough job.

Plus it's compact size is almost unbeatable. It actually surprised me when I took it out of the box.

 

[loranger]

I have the Klutch impact and like the M7 it is tiny! I have only been disappointed one time when I had a seized bolt. I had to break it loose a few turns with a breaker bar and was finally able to hammer it out with the impact.