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Bret888

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Grouseman, I don't know what they have in common? The blue one is another that I have never seen before.

Jason, that Parker looks great!
 
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I don't have a 975B, but there is another member here that has one that posted around the same time I did with my parker. Check the last few pages and I'm sure you will see his.

EDIT: Found his post HERE

I can measure my 974-1/2B tomorrow if you want, but I'm pretty sure they are ~4.5"

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I have a question on your 975B Parker. Does the jaw width measure 5" or does it measure 4-3/4 wide. I have a jaw from autopts off of a Chas Parker and it measures 4-3/4 wide. I am cutting stock as I type to build a couple sets. But would like a verification on this size. Is it possible the Parker's changed the widths in later years. I did not get what model jaws I am using as a example.
 
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Bret888

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I went to an auction today, based on a poor blurry picture, of a workbench that had what looked like a turtleback vise mounted on it, possibly an Emmert. I got there early, and sure enough it was an Emmert, tilt linkeage and all. On the other end, was a W.C. Toles, Chicago vise too! The bench itself, was very old, trestle type built, probably originally out of a pattern shop of 100yrs ago, when Oil City PA was booming. The son of the Dr. that passed away, said it was in the house when they moved there, in 1960.
8 hours later, they finally got to the basement where the bench was, and I got it, vises and the junk on top for $80.
I also got a little Wilton Shop King for $15, that has never even been mounted, but has some rust.

As you can guess, I am pretty happy!
 

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Mark in Indiana

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I went to an auction today, based on a poor blurry picture, of a workbench that had what looked like a turtleback vise mounted on it, possibly an Emmert. I got there early, and sure enough it was an Emmert, tilt linkeage and all. On the other end, was a W.C. Toles, Chicago vise too! The bench itself, was very old, trestle type built, probably originally out of a pattern shop of 100yrs ago, when Oil City PA was booming. The son of the Dr. that passed away, said it was in the house when they moved there, in 1960.
8 hours later, they finally got to the basement where the bench was, and I got it, vises and the junk on top for $80.
I also got a little Wilton Shop King for $15, that has never even been mounted, but has some rust.

As you can guess, I am pretty happy!

I need a little of your luck.
Good find! :thumbup:
 

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We have a winner. There is a Guru amongst us. (bloo) is absolutely right, each of those vises has an internal lockdown and when you clamp down, they no longer swivel. Very good bloo. I wouldn't have guest it in ten years if I hadn't accidently stumbled on it when I loosened the clamp on the versa, and the pedestal nearly broke my foot. Since I am vise poor, would someone mail bloo a cigar.
 

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EOC Jason, That 8'' Rigid----That's the Holy Grail. We can call off the search now. Rare find, Congrats.

The hunt will not end until we find a 9" Reed!!!

I finished up my C1 today, I wasn't sure about painting the pipe jaws, but I didn't want to leave them bare and start to get rust in places I couldn't keep oiled. I think the black complemented the safety blue quite nicely.
 

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The hunt will not end until we find a 9" Reed!!!

I finished up my C1 today, I wasn't sure about painting the pipe jaws, but I didn't want to leave them bare and start to get rust in places I couldn't keep oiled. I think the black complemented the safety blue quite nicely.

Very nice job on the 1C. You must now have to get all 4. I don't know how close you are to Baytown but go to J & B pipeline supply. They had a lot of different vises and parts strung over there property. Lots of used stuff. I my first reed 108 I bought came from there for $400 and needed and new nut. Anyway chewck it out or pm me.
I agree that there needs to be another reed 109 or 209 out there somewhere even if it is not for sale I can't believe a 209 has not been located just to look at.
 

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I haven't gotten any pictures yet, but I'm working on my 43 year old Littlestown HDWE & FDNY #450. I won this vise as a door prize at a CB jamboree back in 1970. They had been giving away a bunch of neat radios and antennas, when the vise came up I poked mt friend Steve that I was there with and said I couldn't win a radio, I'll probably win that damn vise. Sure enough they drew my ticket number for the vise. What the heck was I going to do with a big *** vise like this? So I sold it to my dad for $20. I don't thing he ever used, it just sat on the floor under his work bench until he died and we cleaned out the house and shop so my mom could move into an apartment to be closer to us.
It had sat on the floor under my work bench until I read this thread last week and got
inspired to do something with it.
I took it apart and cleaned to old dried grease off of it and then got after it with my soda blaster. Then a little scraping and sanding the parts that wouldn't get paint like the hard jaws and the anvil surface. I gave it a couple coats of Rustolem primer and then 2 coats of satin green. I'm not sure I like the color but I couldn't find the pale green it was originally painted and didn't like and thing else I could find.
I'll try to post some pix of it later today, I'll snap a couple of it still apart before I reassemble it.
I've really enjoyed this thread, and all the others on GJ, I waste A LOT of time here :)


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my 975 b in question measures out at a full 5".

I don't have a 975B, but there is another member here that has one that posted around the same time I did with my parker. Check the last few pages and I'm sure you will see his.

EDIT: Found his post HERE

I can measure my 974-1/2B tomorrow if you want, but I'm pretty sure they are ~4.5"
 

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my 975 b in question measures out at a full 5".

Thanks Wrenchguy, I have a lot to learn on these Parker's. Seems the older Chas Parkers have a different jaw cut, and the newer ones are much simpler to make. The one set of jaws I am building now are for the Parker 259x and the width on these are a strong 4-3/4. Not sure how many are out there but they will be challenging, I'll build a couple extra. Again thanks to you and EOC-Jason.

Kevin
 

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Well I finally got the pix of the Littlestown vise I restored resized and ready to upload.
here you'll see it taken apart, being soda blasted, painted and painted the letters. I pretty please with it,
It's not the same color it was originally, it was a light green, I couldn't find anything close so I just used Satin hunter green.
I just noticed in the pix that I need to do a little paint scraping on the vise jaws :willy_nil
Now if I can figure out where to mount it so I can use it, there's just not room on my bench for it, I've already got a smaller vise on the corner of my big bench.
I'm thinking about bolting it to a board and then just clamping to my roller bench when I need to use it.
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My 20 dollar garage sale find! These larins are off shore, but i really do like them. This is the second one i own.

 

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Are you going to fish for striper's while you are there. I stayed at Chatham last time I went fishing out there. That fishery is amazing now if you have kids take them out in the harbor (Barnstable?) with a guide and they can catch 10-15# schoolies like crazy. My friends have been going out for 12 years straight now but always say to be out of there before the July 4th tourist season:shocking:
Have fun and I have been waiting for you to leave so I can head south where the good stuff is:bounce:.
Wes

We won't be fishing due to the story weather that's been hitting the cape for the past few days. Striped bass aren't in season for another week so bluefish is the hot ticket right now. If the weather clears we might go out but until then we will be rubbing shoulders with the rich folks at the Chatham bars inn and exploring the little towns

The one upside of being out here is that he people are so friendly. I talked to a guy and he gave me the number of a biggest antique tool dealer on the cape. He laughed when I said I collected vises and told me to call him. I guess he's got a few buildings with lots of vises in them:evil::drool:
 
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Craftsman 4" bench vise w/ swivel base model #506.5188 circa 1970. Made under license in USA by The Columbian Vise & Manufacturing Company. Original paint in great condition for being 40+ years old. Not the industrial beast that some of you guys have but this little guy fits my little workbench and my little workshop just fine. My dad managed his entire adult life with a 3 1/2" Wilton so I don't think this will be a hindrance. And if I ever need a bigger vise I have the collective knowledge of GJ to point me in the right direction!







^^^Bolt threads are flush so I don't lose any skin on them.
 

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Nothing shabby about those Craftsman vises. I had one that I used for industrial maintenance work for over 15 years. I never abused it and it always did its job.
 

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Yep, I just bought my dad a NOS one I found on ebay recently to replace his old one. There are some pictures a couple of pages back. Shipping label was still on the box listing it for $17.99 back in the day. Money well spent for all the years we got out of the first one. Those old Craftsmans were tough.
 

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freedomgli - I like the vise. I have an old columbian USA open screw, and new china CMAN pro. I like the CMAN pro more - it is very similar in design to your old one.

But what I really want to know about is the Miata...
 

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Nothing shabby about those Craftsman vises. I had one that I used for industrial maintenance work for over 15 years. I never abused it and it always did its job.

You knew someone was going to ask, but I was hoping someone else would step up. I know there is an excellent reason for it or it wouldn't be there. The unusual lock down, that's a first for me. I can see where it would keep an idiot from breaking ones favorite vise, but an idiot could still beat on it like it was a blacksmiths anvil as idiots often do.
 

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You knew someone was going to ask, but I was hoping someone else would step up. I know there is an excellent reason for it or it wouldn't be there. The unusual lock down, that's a first for me. I can see where it would keep an idiot from breaking ones favorite vise, but an idiot could still beat on it like it was a blacksmiths anvil as idiots often do.

The vise was mounted on my roll around that I kept at work. I had trouble with people who would use it and leave it messed up. So I had to secure it by chucking it in a mill to drill the holes through the slide and stationary jaw, and getting a bicycle lock. I never minded my equipment being borrowed unless it was not returned or left a mess.
 

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I got Manna from Heaven yesterday!
A friend had tried to buy this for me a year ago but the price was way too high. I was close to it yesterday so I decided to look for it myself. This is 60 miles away or I would have done it sooner. Anyway I found it and he was home. Today was my day as the price was half what he wanted before and would not budge from.
It is a Reed 108 which should be 247# and a RR roundhouse stand weighing a total of 887#. He took it from the roundhouse in Junction City, KS 30 some years ago. I have another stand that is like this one and have seen a few more. The RR must have had a lot of these.
It is actually notched on the front under the vise to allow for that obtrusive lump on the bottom of most big stationary vises. The other stand does not have this that I remember. The reed does not have this but a lot of mine do. The only thing better would have been a 109 setting on the stand!
Thanks to Bl00 for the stand print from the RR Gazette.
Also I found something I never noticed before. The balls on the handle had an R stamped in them. Anyone ever see that on another handle? Most of the time these are so beat up it would not exist so maybe I just never looked. Will check another one tomorrow. Hope you enjoy.:willy_nil
The white stand is one I got a year ago.
 

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Did you buy it!?!?!? If so... you ****, you ****, you ****, you ****.... :willy_nil

LOL... nice find...

I got Manna from Heaven yesterday!
A friend had tried to buy this for me a year ago but the price was way too high. I was close to it yesterday so I decided to look for it myself. This is 60 miles away or I would have done it sooner. Anyway I found it and he was home. Today was my day as the price was half what he wanted before and would not budge from.
It is a Reed 108 which should be 247# and a RR roundhouse stand weighing a total of 887#. He took it from the roundhouse in Junction City, KS 30 some years ago. I have another stand that is like this one and have seen a few more. The RR must have had a lot of these.
 

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You bet I bought it. I could not get the money out fast enough. This will be my anniversery present for my wife. I can't remember which anniversery year is for vise or maybe it was gold???:lol_hitti
 

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After about 50 pages of vise/vice ****, I hadn't run across too many from Prentiss, so I thought I'd include my 181. I'm afraid I don't know much about it (other than its a bit old and a beat up... like its owner) but it's hard to imagine being without it.

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Nice catch demoman!!!,
For me it always adds to the fun when you know where it came from. I have an arbor press, a vise and a cast iron stand that came from a local factory that started in 1919 and closed in 1992. When someone is over and I say that arbor press or that vise came from the old Western Machine Works Factory, you would not believe the number of times you I hear "My grandfather worked there" or "my uncle worked there".
I wonder if you could find an old post card or picture on EBay of the round house where it came from? That would be cool to go with the vise.

ps I am glad that "mana" didn't hit you in the head when it fell from heaven!
 

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This is my latest and biggest find - a Wilton C3. It has 6" jaws and "safely" opens to about 10". It weighs 158 on the bathroom scale.
 

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demoman WOW what a great vise and stand:rocker:

PS I would buy your spare stand now if you pay the postage to Oregon:D
 

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After about 50 pages of vise/vice ****, I hadn't run across too many from Prentiss, so I thought I'd include my 181. I'm afraid I don't know much about it (other than its a bit old and a beat up... like its owner) but it's hard to imagine being without it.
Cool old Prentiss!!! Welcome to the forum ERIMILLE! From now on you'll know not to post a vise right after DEMOMAN post one of his prehistoric MEGA-VISES... He gets all the headlines! LOL!
 
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