which ph4 screwdriver?

[Hako86]

I want to buy a ph4 screwdriver but I don't know which of the brands Wera/Wiha/Felo is the best to go with. For me it's important that the handle feels good and I can put some torque on it.
Because many of the ph4 screws are very tight I can easily strip the tip of the screwdriver, so I want a tip that fits really good and is extremely hard. So, which brand is the one to go with, the wera, Wiha or Felo?

 

[PBCampbell]

I think your decision is going to be based on which manufacturers actually offer this size.

 

[jjjrmx5]

My first choice is Facom's Ergotwist or Enduro series.

Then Wiha's for fasteners that big.

 

[LeGarage]

I have both Felo (hard handle) and Stahlwille in that size. Both excellent.

 

[X1 Mike]

My primary drivers are hard handled Snap-Ons but I bought a set of Stanley Demolition Drivers that were made in Great Britain like these for $3 a piece at the flea market.


http://www.amazon.com/dp/B000NIDF9M/?tag=atomicindus08-20

These are very solid drivers and the nice thing is they have the striking end cap.

 

[CWP1616L]

Get the MAC hard handle part# PB2084AR



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[decaf]

When it comes to such big handle and screws, i would prefer a screwdriver that has a hex bolster soo you can use a wrench too put some extra torque on it?

Like this one:

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B003ES5KU0/?tag=atomicindus08-20

 

[Hako86]

Thanks everybody for your replies! One thing I forgot mention is that the handle must be easy to clean

 

[monkeyspanners]

If you've got room to use it on the screws, get a ph4 3/8 socket and a 3/8 socket spinner handle, then you will be able to use a ratchet if the screws are really tight.

 

[williaty]

Easy to clean?

PB Swiss Tools in the SwissGrip model line. AWESOME screwdrivers and the handle material is both grippy and easy to clean. Spray some brake cleaner on a paper towel and you can get a black handle back to factory-new Swiss Red in a couple of wipes.

 

[Chadwilliam1]

what is a ph4?

 

[sloppy]

what is a ph4?

Phillips size #4

 

[Jawn]

what is a ph4?

#4 phillips?

 

[BK13]

If you've got room to use it on the screws, get a ph4 3/8 socket and a 3/8 socket spinner handle, then you will be able to use a ratchet if the screws are really tight.

This is the first thing that came to mind for me....

 

[Brownsfan]

I have a Williams hard handle ph4. Only used it once and it did its job. Black hard handle easy to clean. Pretty cheap and USA made. Have the whole set and couldn't be happier.

 

[celticbhoy]

I used the Wera today and after a minute of holding that thing my hand started to ache. I was excited to try them out cause I heard great things, but I just can't stand the handle design, so if you try them out and like the fit in your hand than great, i've only heard great things about them. I really like the feel of Klein's rubber handled screwdrivers and i;m sure they have PH#4.

 

[CWP1616L]

I already recommended the MAC #4 Philips. The OP is not allowed to get anything else.

 

[Fast LT1]

Snap on instinct! The handle is designed specifically to put lots of torque on it

 

[3rdbuttondown]

Can you hit it with a manual impact driver and go to a screwdriver after braking things free?

 

[shockwave]

I would recommend a impact screwdriver with pH4 bits since you did mention very tight fasteners where brake rotors on a land rover come to mind for pH4 where you will need power when you need it but still can use it as a driver just my opinion thou

 

[Hako86]

Thanks everybody! I think I'll go with the Wera . I would love to have some more USA stuff, but because I live in Europe it's very hard to get.

 

[Hako86]

One brand I have forgot to mention is Witte. How does Witte compare to Felo/Wiha/Wera? Is the quality good and does the handle feel good? The reason for asking is because I saw Witte pretty cheap on the internet.

 

[Haukur]

I have some old Witte, including a PH3. The quality is good, no cracks in handle but the white lettering on the black handle is quite faded, nothing unusual. I would put it on par with Felo/Wiha/Wera. Don't have any experience with new Witte stuff.

 

[Monte]

yes the Witte quality is good. They do make screwdrivers for major companies around the world like Stahlwille, Primat, Klein, Cornwell and Matco for example. The tips are hard as well as their screwdriver bits.

 

[Hako86]

yes the Witte quality is good. They do make screwdrivers for major companies around the world like Stahlwille, Primat, Klein, Cornwell and Matco for example. The tips are hard as well as their screwdriver bits.

How does the handle feel? Can you put some torque on it?

 

[Jure]

SkG.

 

[Monte]

How does the handle feel? Can you put some torque on it?

it depends on the series... some are larger and offer better grip for high torque applications (Witte Toplus) than others... All have a triangular handle style so your hand most likely won´t slip. The newer Witte (4th from top) have a more rounded triangular handle shape so you might prefer the older style like the orange/black one. You might want to check out the blue/grey ones too...:
http://www.conrad.nl/ce/nl/Search.h...earch=witte&filterBrand=Witte+Werkzeug&page=3

(the screwdrivers are not the same sizes)

 

[Dr.JohnnyFever]

I have a selection of Wiha, Wera, Felo, and Craftsman Pro. The Wiha have been my go-to drivers lately.

The Craftsman Pro live in a bag with some Kobalt combo wrenches as a loaner / beater set.

Somewhere on here is a thread where I tested the grip comfort (for me) of a few.

Edited to add: Here it is:http://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=19448

 

[Hako86]

Thanks for all the advise guys !
@Monte: Yeah, I think I'll go with the Witte blue/grey ones, I was looking for them before and I found a place where I can get them fairly cheap.
@Dr.JohnnyFever: I have some Wiha myself and I really love them. The way they feel is just awsome and the tips are holding up great too. But I also want to try some other brands and I think the Witte screwdrivers will be great as well (I'll find out I guess...)