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This is one I bought from Mark earlier this month from the Viselapalooza that was held in Golden Colorado. A Rock Island #473 with forged jaws. I went for a different tint by mixing Rustoleum's Smoke Gray Gloss enamel with Ace's Harbor Blue enamel to give the vise a blueish gray color. Painted the letters with the Harbor Blue for contrast.
 

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That is just incredible to have over 500 pages of Vises. I think I own about 39 Vises now and it all started after I discovered the Garage Journal.

Many of my friends give me a lot of grief about my Vise collection and have suggested I join Vises Anonymus.

:beer:
 

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Here's what I can think of. BTW I don't have one, so if anyone has a spare laying about I'm all ears.

Parker
Fulton
Williamson
Yost
Pittsburg
Fred C Moran
Craftsman - don't know who made it though
Quick Automatic Vise Co
NyTYP (came under several makes)
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Add to that Mr.B100, the Sawyer like Zoomie has. And there is a Columbian, and a Wilton Vacu-flip on E-bay right now. But I wouldn't swear that those two were made in the U.S.. Although they do have American brands.
 

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Here's what I can think of. BTW I don't have one, so if anyone has a spare laying about I'm all ears.

Parker
Fulton
Williamson
Yost
Pittsburg
Fred C Moran
Craftsman - don't know who made it though
Quick Automatic Vise Co
NyTYP (came under several makes)

Wow, I had no idea! Thanks for the info!
Zoom
 

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That is just incredible to have over 500 pages of Vises. I think I own about 39 Vises now and it all started after I discovered the Garage Journal.

Many of my friends give me a lot of grief about my Vise collection and have suggested I join Vises Anonymus.

:beer:

Vises are very addictive. When I get grief about all the vises that I buy, I reply: "It keeps me out of bars & strip clubs."
 

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That vise sold for $400! Is the 474 that rare? Or is it just the unique feature of the double swivel that collectors must have

I would bet it was probably some crazy *** collector, with no wife or kids, and more money than he has sense!!! Hell, I bet the crazy SOB has vises and anvils in his living room!!!

Some people....:dunno:

:lol_hitti
 

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I would bet it was probably some crazy *** collector, with no wife or kids, and more money than he has sense!!! Hell, I bet the crazy SOB has vises and anvils in his living room!!!

Some people....:dunno:

:lol_hitti

And he should probably see a counselor... or at LEAST a structural engineer!
 
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Zoomie, you are my inspiration. Just drug up my inclosed trailer to put vises in. on my way to Golden CO tomorrow to pick up more. I am going to build a new website just to list pieces and parts for vises and sell jaws for all the other vises not named Wilton. My wife is pissed, oh well.
 

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Zoomie, you are my inspiration. Just drug up my inclosed trailer to put vises in. on my way to Golden CO tomorrow to pick up more. I am going to build a new website just to list pieces and parts for vises and sell jaws for all the other vises not named Wilton. My wife is pissed, oh well.

And you Sir, are my hero! You are a true Craftsman and good man! Have fun!!!
 

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Zoomie, you are my inspiration. Just drug up my inclosed trailer to put vises in. on my way to Golden CO tomorrow to pick up more. I am going to build a new website just to list pieces and parts for vises and sell jaws for all the other vises not named Wilton. My wife is pissed, oh well.

I'm "Verde Green" with envy!
 

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Zoomie...

Don't walk across your living room with the lights off...

That would really HURT!!!

(Unless you're wearing your steel toed dancing slippers...)

Nice decor, "Early Industrial", is my favorite...can't say it would fly too far with my significant other, however...
 
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Zoomie...

Don't walk across your living room with the lights off...

That would really HURT!!!

(Unless you're wearing your steel toed dancing slippers...)

Nice decor, "Early Industrial", is my favorite...can't say it would fly too far with my significant other, however...

You've got 2 options...
1. Pick your battles (good choice!)
2. Build a bigger pole barn
 

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Zoomie, you are my inspiration. Just drug up my inclosed trailer to put vises in. on my way to Golden CO tomorrow to pick up more. I am going to build a new website just to list pieces and parts for vises and sell jaws for all the other vises not named Wilton. My wife is pissed, oh well.

I think you are living the dream Mr. Scott... Let's break down that above paragraph shall we?

1. Taking a TRAILER to get MORE vises, with the intention of filling up said trailer.
2. Making a website just so you can sell parts specializing in vises that haven't been made in decades by companies that are long out of business.

:thumbup:
 

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I would bet it was probably some crazy *** collector, with no wife or kids, and more money than he has sense!!! Hell, I bet the crazy SOB has vises and anvils in his living room!!!

Some people....:dunno:

LOL... love the pictures as always zoomie... I'm just waiting one of these days for a vise to misbehave and be put in a crate... that would be a funny picture.
 

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I think you are living the dream Mr. Scott... Let's break down that above paragraph shall we?

1. Taking a TRAILER to get MORE vises, with the intention of filling up said trailer.
2. Making a website just so you can sell parts specializing in vises that haven't been made in decades by companies that are long out of business.

:thumbup:

It's America isn't it!! I have been building jaws for Reed, Parkers, Starretts, American Standards, Prentiss, Yoast and a couple for drill press vises. These need their own site, they do not belong on the Wilton site. You have no idea how many people contact me everyday looking for lead screws, swivel bases and all other parts, e-bay is to expensive to sell this stuff because of the final evaluation fee, I will not accept it. E-bay is a great tool for web site owners to get the word out, and advertising, I have a opportunity to pick up not a couple but a pile of welded up, wore out vises that could see the land fill or scrap yard, why not add their parts to the new site. It is easier then listing on e-bay. Why not rescue them, some one can use the parts. Maybe I'll make a buck.

Building a website is a weekend job using BigCommerce as the platform, cost $24.99/month and credit card transactions are 3% sure beats e-bay's fees around 15-18% including Paypal. Now if I can get my wife on board.
 

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I just picked up a Starrett Athol 614 on the way home tonight. Ugly paint job...wonder if it will fit in a flat rate if you are interested.....

Thanks for the offer Dave, but I am holding out for a large Yost. They are just as rare around me, but I've been saving my lunch money for one. I have a beefy stand I got at an auction that is screaming to have a 100#'er or more mounted to:deathmeta
 

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Thanks for the offer Dave, but I am holding out for a large Yost. They are just as rare around me, but I've been saving my lunch money for one. I have a beefy stand I got at an auction that is screaming to have a 100#'er or more mounted to:deathmeta

Very nice. I, too, am on the hunt for Monsters...:thumbup:
 

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Zoomie, you are my inspiration. Just drug up my inclosed trailer to put vises in. on my way to Golden CO tomorrow to pick up more. I am going to build a new website just to list pieces and parts for vises and sell jaws for all the other vises not named Wilton. My wife is pissed, oh well.
Excellent, let me know when I can send my jaws out for duplicating.

I would bet it was probably some crazy *** collector, with no wife or kids, and more money than he has sense!!! Hell, I bet the crazy SOB has vises and anvils in his living room!!!

Some people....:dunno:

:lol_hitti
I get it, I get teased about having a vice for vises! I need to learn to part with some of mine too.
 

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Did somebody say vises in the living room??? ---still got some catching up to do with Zoomie though. :lol_hitti:beer:
 

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An inexperianced question here. Why hasn't the baby bullet vise on ebay with power arm been bought when others have been bought and sold for more? What is wrong with it? Just courious.

John
 

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The only vises (Or anvils) I have in the living room are jewelers size (setting in or on my desk)... My two oldest both have slightly larger vises in their bedrooms; my son a 2" modelers vise (and a bench top B&D workmate) and Oldest daughter has a 2-1/2" clamp on vise, and a 1 Lb anvil.
 

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An inexperianced question here. Why hasn't the baby bullet vise on ebay with power arm been bought when others have been bought and sold for more? What is wrong with it? Just courious.

Could be several reasons...

1. A lot of people search "Auctions Only", there are way too many buy it now listings for daily browsing. So potential buyers might not ever see the item.

2. Condition and age. Certain people are looking for certain things. The NOS totally original ones will fetch the highest prices. The more wear and the worse they look, the lower the price people are willing to pay. Also the amount of pictures and the quality of the pictures and description can have a HUGE impact on people bidding. The more confident they are in the item, the more likely they are to bid.

3. Misspelling or listed wrong. Sometimes people spell things wrong (i.e. vice) so again not as many people see it. Or they make it too generic (i.e. Wilton Vise) so people don't know it's a baby bullet.

4. Bidding Wars... Auctions typically get the higest prices when you start out at one cent or some low number. You get people to bid on it early and hopefully you can get a bidding war going. If you start at a high price or stick a reserve often people will just pass over it.

5. Time & Day the auction ends (not relevant for BIN listings)... Sunday or Monday evenings tend to be the best times for auctions to end to maximize the amount of people sitting in front of their computers bidding.

... and the list can go on for a while, but I think I'll stop there ....
 

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Could be several reasons...

1. A lot of people search "Auctions Only", there are way too many buy it now listings for daily browsing. So potential buyers might not ever see the item.

2. Condition and age. Certain people are looking for certain things. The NOS totally original ones will fetch the highest prices. The more wear and the worse they look, the lower the price people are willing to pay. Also the amount of pictures and the quality of the pictures and description can have a HUGE impact on people bidding. The more confident they are in the item, the more likely they are to bid.

3. Misspelling or listed wrong. Sometimes people spell things wrong (i.e. vice) so again not as many people see it. Or they make it too generic (i.e. Wilton Vise) so people don't know it's a baby bullet.

4. Bidding Wars... Auctions typically get the higest prices when you start out at one cent or some low number. You get people to bid on it early and hopefully you can get a bidding war going. If you start at a high price or stick a reserve often people will just pass over it.

5. Time & Day the auction ends (not relevant for BIN listings)... Sunday or Monday evenings tend to be the best times for auctions to end to maximize the amount of people sitting in front of their computers bidding.

... and the list can go on for a while, but I think I'll stop there ....

I agree. The only "physical" things I see are; smooth jaws, lots of bad paint, looks like the main nut had been taken apart at some point, the tapered pins that hold it in look "unnatural", so to speak. I think it would look good restored. Just an opinion.
Zoom
 

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I agree. The only "physical" things I see are; smooth jaws, lots of bad paint, looks like the main nut had been taken apart at some point, the tapered pins that hold it in look "unnatural", so to speak. I think it would look good restored. Just an opinion.
Zoom

Thanks guys for the insights. I learn so much here and get very helpful information. Thanks to all.

John
 

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4. Bidding Wars... Auctions typically get the higest prices when you start out at one cent or some low number. You get people to bid on it early and hopefully you can get a bidding war going. If you start at a high price or stick a reserve often people will just pass over it.

I couldn't agree with this more. I sell a lot on eBay and 99% of my auctions start at $0.99 with no reserve and I let it all work out in the wash. I'm very seldom disappointed in the final selling price for the reasons stated. People get hooked early on and either start bidding or add it to their watch list. I figure an item is worth what people are willing to pay so I let them figure it out because most of the time I have no idea what to sell an item for; either too low and screw myself or too high and make no sales. I just make sure to tack a little on shipping to cover fees in case it does sell low. Both eBay and PayPal take money from the shipping fees as well so you need to cover yourself there. Many times I've given partial shipping refunds when the price was driven up to a nice number. Plus I like using eBay still for what it was originally intended; an auction site. There's no shortage of places to buy things for preset amounts.
 

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I would bet it was probably some crazy *** collector, with no wife or kids, and more money than he has sense!!! Hell, I bet the crazy SOB has vises and anvils in his living room!!!

Some people....:dunno:

:lol_hitti

There's absolutely nothing wrong with that :thumbup:...
 

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Need some advise on where to put my wilton 500( in the picture sitting on bench, next to a mounted wilton shop king). I bought the green pedestal from work, was planning to mount the vise on it about where it sits in the pic. On the other side of that is where i work on cars and stuff( can see the garage door in pic). Would i regret putting it there and not having it on the bench? The bench i have isn't sturdy enough for a tough vise like that. Suppose i could move the bench down and mount pedestal next to it. Any tips would be great, i cant come up with something i like for this odd corner of the shop.

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Need some advise on where to put my wilton 500( in the picture sitting on bench, next to a mounted wilton shop king). I bought the green pedestal from work, was planning to mount the vise on it about where it sits in the pic. On the other side of that is where i work on cars and stuff( can see the garage door in pic). Would i regret putting it there and not having it on the bench? The bench i have isn't sturdy enough for a tough vise like that. Suppose i could move the bench down and mount pedestal next to it. Any tips would be great, i cant come up with something i like for this odd corner of the shop.

Dare I say...

In your living room...?:dunno: seems reasonable to me!
 

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Need some advise on where to put my wilton 500( in the picture sitting on bench, next to a mounted wilton shop king). I bought the green pedestal from work, was planning to mount the vise on it about where it sits in the pic. On the other side of that is where i work on cars and stuff( can see the garage door in pic). Would i regret putting it there and not having it on the bench? The bench i have isn't sturdy enough for a tough vise like that. Suppose i could move the bench down and mount pedestal next to it. Any tips would be great, i cant come up with something i like for this odd corner of the shop.

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My garage is so packed that the TV show "Hoarders" contacted me to do an episode. That said, I would keep the pedestal and vise next to the bench and pull it out when needed. You can add weight to the base so you don't have to anchor it down. IMO, setting it up that way will allow you more dynamic bench & floor space.
 

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If you wanted to use that green pedestal, you'd have to either anchor it or make the base a good bit wider/heavier. I'd do that and use the pedestal.
 

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If you wanted to use that green pedestal, you'd have to either anchor it or make the base a good bit wider/heavier. I'd do that and use the pedestal.

Yeah, you would either need to bolt it to the ground, or I would go by a tire shop and get an old steel rim. Weld it in there upside down, then fill it with concrete. You can still roll the vise around but it will be sturdy enough to work.

The bigger the rim the better. That is my Reed 4C (185 lbs) mounted on a big truck (not semi) rim. Solid as a rock...
 

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That would be sweet in my living room, don't think someone would go for that. If I was single thats where my motorcycle would be in the winter!

Can you really torque on stuff with a pedestal like that and not have it spin? Some farm stuff I really have to crank on.
 
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