The VISES of Garage Journal

[Mark in Indiana]

Hello Vise Friends,

The pictures of my new vise won't look as good as many on the last few posts. However I'm happy with it as a future project (it's in line with 5 vise projects).

It is a 100+ year old Reed 204 with a swivel base & weighs 50#, picked up for $15.00. It looks toasty because it had been living outside, on the ground for several years. But the rust hasn't eaten much into the surface. The only thing that moves is the sliding handle.

After knocking off the mud, then about 2 weeks in the kerosene tank, then some quality time soaking down parts with trans. fluid / acetone mix, and then some electrolysis time, hopefully it will be workable.

 

[Mark in Indiana]

Finished my other Wilton. I like the blue personally. I am going to do white lettering, I just may need a better paint pen or I'll have to do three coats. Before and after of both even though I already lit up pictures of the 845.

I've really had good luck with the Testers chisel tip paint pens. The only issue that I had was that the paint may flow too good, so it has to be applied very lightly.

Hope this helps.

 

[EOC_Jason]

I found some Sharpie oil based paint pens, only used black so far but I'm really happy with them. They were free so I can't complain. One of these days I'll probably order some other colors and also get a finer tip. The one I have is a huge fatty and hard to do fine lettering.

 

[flashman]

I found some Sharpie oil based paint pens, only used black so far but I'm really happy with them. They were free so I can't complain. One of these days I'll probably order some other colors and also get a finer tip. The one I have is a huge fatty and hard to do fine lettering.

That is what I use. Purchased mine at Michaels. There was quite a selection of colors.

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[TreePointer]

...It is a 100+ year old Reed 204 with a swivel base & weighs 50#, picked up for $15.00. It looks toasty because it had been living outside, on the ground for several years. But the rust hasn't eaten much into the surface. The only thing that moves is the sliding handle....

Shameful Reed abuse.

Good on you for rescuing it!

 

[trainman1385]

What is the best way to remove existing paint to repaint a vise?

 

[EOC_Jason]

What is the best way to remove existing paint to repaint a vise?

Wire wheel, bead / soda blast, electrolysis I think will... I don't recall if oven cleaner removes paint or only rust.

 

[ritzblitz]

I almost exclusively use a wire wheel, mixed with some paint remover for hard to reach areas. Electrolysis is nice but it takes a while.

 

[va.grouseman]

Here is a couple of small vises for the Journal. A #51 Rock Island and a# 94 Charles Parker. The 51 weighs 62 lbs., and the 94 weighs 51 lbs. ironically. Both have 4 inch jaws.

















The Rock Island came with no handle on the lock down, and the swivel pin was sheered off flush with the jaw. I don't really mind when one is lacking external furniture because that stuff is not that hard to make and you can get a lot better deal sometimes, if stuff is missing, as long as it's stuff that really doesn't detract from the overall value. For instance, if the swivel base was missing on a vise, that would be a deal breaker for me. I got a real deal on an American Scale #79 one time because the swivel jaw was frozen solid and the owner said it was not a swivel jaw even when I told him I thought it was. Missing furniture can go to the buyers advantage. So far, I've been lucky in that the frozen swivel pins I've encountered were configured exactly above the large bolt that holds the base to the main body. Just take that big bolt out, look in the hole, and your looking at the bottom of the swivel pin. Usually a couple of licks with a punch and out she comes. I'll put some pictures of the parker on another post. Too much on one.

Oh I forgot, sometimes the Acme nut is right in the way of seeing the bottom end of the swivel pin. But that's no problem either, their is usually a pin that the Acme nut butts against and it goes all the way through the base. Just knock it out, slide the Acme nut back and there you are, looking at the pin.

 

[kukko]

more pics of the parker please!!!! that is super cool looking!!!

a# 94 charles parker.

 

[va.grouseman]

Here is pics of the Parker. By the way, the Rock island was wire brushed and clear coated. I wire brush them like ritzblitz. The Parker hasn't had anything done to it yet. It's just like I received it, so it's a before shot. One of these days I'll post an after shot. I've had both vises for about 2 years, so you can see I don't get in too big of a hurry. Keeps down the stress.















I saw a #94 on E-bay couple of weeks ago that had three inch jaws and the handle ball was flat on two sides. Don't know if they came both ways or if someone customized that one. At any rate I wonder if the 94 got much play, because the ratchet handle sticks out in a persons work area and is kind of obtrusive. Other than surface rust, this one looks virtually unused. So I just wonder if they proved to be impractical. But their kind of odd, and I like odd.

 

[autopts]

Two very nice ones Larry. Great add on for the GJ.

 

[flashman]

Wire wheel, bead / soda blast, electrolysis I think will... I don't recall if oven cleaner removes paint or only rust.

Electrolysis will remove paint in a way. It basically makes it loose and you can brush most of it off depending on your setup and how long you leave it in. Also, the type and amount of paint can be a factor, too. It is much easier doing electrolysis vs wire wheel only if you can and don't have a bead blaster.

On a separate note I am most likely going to pick up this Wilton C1 4 1/2" vise for $125. It will be a good deal I feel.

Sorry for the pictures being tilted.

 

[Bhfear]

Wilton #6 3 1/2" Jaws Stamp date of 3/47
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[cclfn]

Here is a couple of small vises for the Journal. A #51 Rock Island and a# 94 Charles Parker. The 51 weighs 62 lbs., and the 94 weighs 51 lbs. ironically. Both have 4 inch jaws.

Love them both but really like the looks of the Parker.

 

[kukko]

That Parker 94 is awesome!!
(great, just when I thought I was done looking for interesting vises.............. )

 

[SweetD]

That Parker 94 is awesome!!
(great, just when I thought I was done looking for interesting vises.............. )

Agree. What's the deal with the mechanics of that handle / screw? It looks like a 'quick set' vise, but how do you snug it up / tighten it down after the quick slide part? Or am I totally off?

Never saw that one before -



Dave

 

[jusridin]

Just picked these guys up, they are small yes but they were 15 bucks. Wilton scout 3 1/2 " Chicago 14, Columbian 03 1/2 m2 and the parker no. 32!
I am hoping to get some info here on the Parker its my first parker and don't seem to find a lot of info on it in searches.

 

[Filson]

Fresh coat of paint on my Reed 208. Boys thought I should paint it "John Deere" so that's what we went with.

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[Filson]

Just picked these guys up, they are small yes but they were 15 bucks. Wilton scout 3 1/2 " Chicago 14, Columbian 03 1/2 m2 and the parker no. 32!
I am hoping to get some info here on the Parker its my first parker and don't seem to find a lot of info on it in searches.

That Parker is VERY dangerous - please send it to me, and I will dispose of it properly, for FREE!

Awesome score bro, where at in Idaho are you located? I just moved back to western WA from Meridian.

 

[Filson]

va grouseman - MAN! More badass vises!? Where do you find all these rare ones? Gotta love it! Thanks for sharing!

 

[jusridin]

I bought these in rigby, the wife was pissed because we went down to Idaho falls for a wedding and I ditched her for these LOL, we live in Nampa so it was 10 minutes from you In meridian

 

[Filson]

I bought these in rigby, the wife was pissed because we went down to Idaho falls for a wedding and I ditched her for these LOL, we live in Nampa so it was 10 minutes from you In meridian

Ah yeah, cool deal! I lived on Ten Mile & Chinden/McMillan. Worked at the wally world tire/lube on Garrity when I first moved there beginning of 2012 summer.

Hey, she'll ***** about the trash not being taken out, ***** about your muddy boots in the house or whatever, so you might as well gain something with this go-around of being bitched out. Well done, Sir!

 

[cclfn]

Fresh coat of paint on my Reed 208. Boys thought I should paint it "John Deere" so that's what we went with.

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Actually those boys are duck fans and they tricked you!

Much better than purple too!

Wes

 

[jusridin]

Ya all are killing me! Anyone know anything about the parker no.32? Age ? Value? Should I leave it the way it is?

 

[bl00]

Here's an ad from 1926 showing the No 32.

 

[jusridin]

Thanks b100! Your slightly

 

[jusridin]

Thanks b100! Your slightly

Phone don't understand beer?
Your alright! Thanks!

 

[va.grouseman]

Agree. What's the deal with the mechanics of that handle / screw? It looks like a 'quick set' vise, but how do you snug it up / tighten it down after the quick slide part? Or am I totally off?

Never saw that one before -



Dave

Dave, with the Parker you can push the slide all the way in with a ratcheting action, and then snug it with one pump of the handle, or you can jack it all the way closed if you want to. It works like a handy man jack.
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Jusridin, if you paid $15.00 for each vise you did real good. If you paid $15. 00 for all, you should be ashamed. Oh and if you will sell just one of them and show the little woman a profit and turn the proceeds over to her, the bitching will stop. You get to keep two.

Mr. Filson. Beautiful job on the 208. But when you make them that pretty it's makes it kind of hard to bring yourself to use it. I love 208s. The only thing better is a #209, and there is only 5000 vise guys looking for one.
Congrats.

 

[Filson]

Dave, with the Parker you can push the slide all the way in with a ratcheting action, and then snug it with one pump of the handle, or you can jack it all the way closed if you want to. It works like a handy man jack.

Absolutely awesome!

Mr. Filson. Beautiful job on the 208. But when you make them that pretty it's makes it kind of hard to bring yourself to use it. I love 208s. The only thing better is a #209, and there is only 5000 vise guys looking for one.
Congrats.

Thank you, and yeah it's pretty but I'll still use it - I had fun fixing it up and wont mind doing it again later down the road. I still have a bit to do to it - clean up the yellow writing, and finish grinding off the slide 100%. Then after it dries up for a few days, I'm going to hit the screw and swivel base with some fresh lube.

I would love to pick up a 209 - as many others would. I honestly didn't expect to run into the 208 or anything like it without extensive looking, yet I ended up getting this by chance, from a guy that lives about 5 minutes down the road from me.

I picked up a 6" Hollands 26N from the same guy for $100. I gave it a quick look over and it looked fine, operated fine, so was happy to pack it to the truck. It wasn't until I brought it home and laid it on one side, that I could see it's been repaired. The braze is almost invisible on one side (side I seen in his dim garage), but is visible on the other side. It looks really well done, but still a bit bummed. Such is life.

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[mrg7243]

Well done! I like the color, sharp.

Thanks, I need to break out the dslr now that is it mounted. The color is chevy orange-red engine enamel. I am disappointed with the durability of the paint. So next go round I may have it powder coated.

 

[Filson]

Actually those boys are duck fans and they tricked you!

Wes

Nah, we watch actual football. Like... Where the professionals play. What's Oregon's NFL team again? :supergay:

GO HAWKS!

 

[jusridin]

Filson I have to say I love that picture with your kids, Dave that freaking parker is just amazing!
This site is never dull, I can't keep looking at all of them!

 

[EDGAR]

BHFEAR

About post # 10193

Your Wilton #6 (6 in jaws?) sure looks like a Wilton 835 (3.5 in jaws).

 

[va.grouseman]

Mr. Filson. Looks like a professional job on the #26 Hollands. Looks like whoever did the job V-ground the crack good and deep and put a wide weld back in it's place. If done right, it's now stronger than no crack at all.

 

[Filson]

Mr. Filson. Looks like a professional job on the #26 Hollands. Looks like whoever did the job V-ground the crack good and deep and put a wide weld back in it's place. If done right, it's now stronger than no crack at all.

Cool deal! I don't know anything about welding and such so wasn't sure if it was something I could only use to prop the barn door open with or what.

I'd like to clean it up and sell it - does the repair hurt the value much?

 

[hardly]

I would think a die-hard welder or vise geek would appreciate the quality of the repair that
was done way back when........Doubt you would loose money on it.

 

[cclfn]

Do we have any Swedish members in GJ ? Here is a Swedish vise that I bought today for $60 just because I have been in a vise drought for a while. This is a PEWE model 46110 made in Sweden. It is a quick release with 4" jaws. I can't pick it up until tomorrow as I am heading south this morning to pick up my CL lathe purchase ( I don't know how to run a lathe yet).

Anyway I know nothing about this vise other than it looks cool, kind of like an art deco Wilton Cadet.

Wes

 

[va.grouseman]

Previously posted by Filson.
Cool deal! I don't know anything about welding and such so wasn't sure if it was something I could only use to prop the barn door open with or what.

I'd like to clean it up and sell it - does the repair hurt the value much?
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To a discerning collector, it might. But to someone that wanted a heavy duty vise for practical application, that's the real deal. You don't see many Hollands 26s & 28s. I would grind it down smooth, buff out the grind to where it didn't even show for the looks sake. But still be transparent and full disclosure in your description. Good looks and honesty, you'll make some money.

 

[KMScott]

This is a PEWE model 46110 made in Sweden. It is a quick release with 4" jaws. I can't pick it up until tomorrow as I am heading south this morning to pick up my CL lathe purchase ( I don't know how to run a lathe yet).

Anyway I know nothing about this vise other than it looks cool, kind of like an art deco Wilton Cadet.

Wes

Wes
Great vise find. Of course I would love to see the jaw faces. As for the lathe purchase, kudos to you, in this forum you can get all the help you need on how to set up and run your lathe. Wish i knew you bought a lathe before mailing your Prentiss # 20 pin, I would have added a few lathe bits. Share you lathe pictures.

Kevin