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zmotorsports

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I am getting ready to replace all of the doorknobs/deadbolts on my exterior doors in my house as well as my shop. Most are original from when I purchased the house new in 1991. I think I replaced my back door once, other than that they are original. My shop doorknob/deadbolt is original from when I built the shop in 1995.

I would like to replace all of them and have them all keyed alike, the doorknobs as well as the deadbolts, tired of carrying multiple keys when one would do the trick. I am looking for opinions on what seems to be a good quality lockset and deadbolt. I currently have Schlage and wondering what everyone's opinions are.

Thanks.

Mike.
 
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I have Schlage and like them. I recently added a mud room with exterior door and at the time rekeyed all my locks to the same key. Best thing I ever did!
 

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All my locks are keyed alike. Kwikset is a popular option around here, although I have some friends with Schlage.
 
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zmotorsports

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Thanks guys. Those seem to be the two most popular that I have read the reviews on but this is a little outside my area of expertise and thought I would ask the construction/carpentry gurus on the forum.

Mike.
 

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I just had 5 new Schlage locksets installed in my new garage/workshop. One of the main reasons I chose Schlage was because that's what the rest of the locksets in my house are. This allowed me to key everything the same. Schlage and Kwikset keys are not compatible. Same may be true of other brands. I got all the new locksets rekeyed to my house key right when I bought them at Home Depot for no extra charge. It only took them about 15 minutes.
 

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I have been lockpicking as a bit of a side hobby. From this I have come to learn that no matter the price or brand of a residential lock that are all about the same difficulty to pick or bump. Commercial locks are better (ie. Medeco) but also not really home décor matching.

Bottom line the window next to the lock is still much easier. Have insurance and buy what you are comfortable with overall.
 

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Both Schlage and Kwicset have sold out to the hardware stores and big box home stores. Hardware installation has been part of my business for 3 decades. Don't buy the retail homeowners version of either. If you research and buy the better products made by each you will get good locks. Lots of online suppliers. I'll suggest just one: Chown.com
 

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Middle and Upper end Schlage is my pick. By the way, Baldwin in now owned by Kwikset, still okay but of the three I prefer finish, construction and action of Schlage. Defiant is less quality than I like.
 

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I looked into getting the better quality Schlage locks, but they were running about $120 each. I settled for the cheapie residential models.
 

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Electronic Schlage locks. Easy to program and just change the batteries once a year, same time you do the smoke detectors.

Charles

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I have been working and re-keying Schlage locks at my church, home, the folks house, and many friends houses. I bought a pin assortment set and hav e all the springs, pins, and mid pins to re-key. As far as quality I think they are a little better in quality than most. There are commercial lines that are better but expensive. As far as the someone getting in your house or shop, they will always find the easiest entry and that is probably a window or thru the wall. A lock only keeps honest people honest, crooks have a different set of rules and abilities.
 

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Schlage all the way.

I have 2 adult foster care homes and the state requires that my residents be able in case of a fire be able to get out of the place without having to fumble around unlocking a lock. Now I don't know if other locks have this availability, but I do know Schlage does. For this reason, I have Schlage on all my doors. Even my place up in north Michigan has them for this reason and also I think that they make a very good lock.
 

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They don't make em like they used to. My folks have schlage locks on their front and back doors. These are the original doorknobs/locks that were installed in 1970... I have replaced my locks twice since I bought my house in 1990...
 
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Another vote for Schlage. You can get them rekeyed at Lowes for $5/lock. That's cheaper than buying a rekey kit or having a locksmith come out and do it.
 

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I vote for Schlage also, but if you go with Kwikset, their Smartkey system is real easy to use, stay away from the off breed imports.

My shop has Schlage levers & they are pretty nice.
 

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Just curious what is your end goal is for replacing ALL the locks, besides having them keyed alike? Style...more security...etc?

While I wouldn't want a cheap knock off set, you already have Schlage, which is decent as others have echoed. Maybe I am too simplistic, but as long as they are all keyed the same and don't feel cheap and work good, I don't see a need to replace. Door knobs don't improve my life.

No dig meant, just trying to understand better what you are seeking.
 

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One suggestion is to replace your locking door knobs with passage knobs. Passage knobs do not have locks, so that you can never accidentally lock yourself out (pushing or twisting the lock on the inside of the door and walking outside and closing the door behind you). All the security is provided by the deadbolt and since you lock it from the outside you never lock yourself out.

At my old house I purchased LSDA passage knobs from a local locksmith. They were a decent price and come with a lifetime warranty on the finish. They still lock brand new after being exposed to the blazing sun and high humidity of Houston.

If you do replaced your knobs with levers, I would look at commercial units as the builder grade models in my current house do not leave a lot of room between the inside of the lever and the door. I notice the levers at work stick out further from the door.

Hopefully I will the door hardware figured out on my next house, lol.

Regards,
Anthony
 

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Electronic Schlage locks. Easy to program and just change the batteries once a year, same time you do the smoke detectors.

Charles

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I have this and love it. I just changed the battery this year after multiple years. It signals when it needs changing. You can put multiple codes in and erase any single one. I have 4 programmed in case someone needs in when I am away(I live beside the snowmobile trail ans a highway) and then I can delete it when I get home.
 

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One suggestion is to replace your locking door knobs with passage knobs. Passage knobs do not have locks, so that you can never accidentally lock yourself out (pushing or twisting the lock on the inside of the door and walking outside and closing the door behind you). All the security is provided by the deadbolt and since you lock it from the outside you never lock yourself out.

Outstanding idea
 

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Schlage hands down, and if you buyin from the HD or Lowes etc.... learn the 4 digit code on the label, its the key code. Match em up and walk away with one key.

I following my buds lead, his house and shop, his deceased dads house and two shops, his brother's house and garage, the 4 doors on the mobile home at the acreage...... ALL run the same schlage key code, therefore all he has on his key ring is his one truck key and one key for everything else. I be doin the same for my next place as well my folks place. Padlocks I follow the same deal, found a surplus store that had 8 padlocks keyed alike sets and I brought 3 sets. Hid the extra 21 keys in my desk drawer and one is hidden on my truck as well the GF's van.
 

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I'm a huge fan of Emtek and Baldwin for higher end residential hardware. They are both very high quality, hold up very well to use and abuse and can be purchased in a standard Kwikset or Schlage C keyway. The downside is they are a little pricey.

Schlage used to make very nice, quality hardware for residential applications. Since they moved to Mexico and developed the F series of residential locks, I have lost faith in them. The cylinders are pot metal and the spring retainer caps "float" (for lack of a better word) allowing trash to get inside the cylinder or worse, the cap to come off due to general use. Their latches also fail and tend to do so locking the door shut so you can not get in or out without performing major surgery with a screwdriver and a pair of pliers.

Kwikset is inexpensive and works well (provided you get the latches that are all metal, the half plastic version falls apart) but their finish ***** and will tarnish quickly. The nice thing is their warranty covers the finish for 5 years if I remember. When they tarnish, just call them and they will send new locks out to you. Their deadbolts hold up well also.

Defiant is even cheaper, comes in a Kwikset keyway and the finish actually holds up better than a Kwikset. For the price of them, they actually do a pretty good job of holding up over time.

Either Kwikset or Schlage quick rekeyable, smart key, whatever you want to call it is a disaster. There are very small, thin wafers in the locks that bind very easily and can seize up if to much pressure is used on them. They also are EXTREMELY easy to open without a key. A simple hand tool can turn the entire cylinder in the housing unlocking the door. The worse part is this does not break anything.

Most govt apartments that I have seen built over the past few years use passage function levers with deadbolts above them. This is very secure and makes it impossible to lock yourself out since you have to use a key to lock the door from the outside.

Most local locksmiths will carry a Grade 2 (residential is grade 3, industrial is grade 1) knob or lever lock that can accept either a Kwikset key or a Schlage C. Usually they stock some brand most have never heard of such as US CAN, US Lock, LSDA, S Parker, TACO, etc. These are typically meant for use in a light commercial environment and are much better built than anything you can buy at your local home center. They also come in a variety of finishes.

The best deadbolt that I have ran across lately for the money is the Schlage BC560. It's a commercial deadbolt that holds up really well and has a tubular support that goes through the door so someone can not just knock it off the door with a hammer. These usually run about $65-$85 each and a Kwikset cylinder can be installed.
 

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I have the Schlage Keypad Deadbolts/Handsets on every Exterior door that I own. Rentals and all.

I have not carried house keys or shop keys for years now. When you have them on multiple doors of the same house the chance of a few of them not working are very slim. They will warn about a month before they actually die also. So you have plenty of time to replace the Battery. On average my Batteries (9v) have lasted about 3 years with heavy use. When 1 goes I replace them all. Use good Batteries don't use cheap ones.

Best thing since sliced bread. As stated...Multiple codes, easy to program, easy to replace the Battery, easy to install, easy to use.

They have helped me in countless situations MANY times. If somebody needs access to your house you can program an extra code in it. I usually use their last 4 of their phone number. If you forget something while your keys are sitting on your car key ring warming up a rig. Tons of situations.

The Deadbolts are harder to Pick due to the main body of the Lock Cylinder turning with the knob which completely disengages when at rest. It just spins freely.
 
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Just curious what is your end goal is for replacing ALL the locks, besides having them keyed alike? Style...more security...etc?

While I wouldn't want a cheap knock off set, you already have Schlage, which is decent as others have echoed. Maybe I am too simplistic, but as long as they are all keyed the same and don't feel cheap and work good, I don't see a need to replace. Door knobs don't improve my life.

No dig meant, just trying to understand better what you are seeking.

No dig taken. The ones on my shop door, exterior garage door and back door of the house going into the garage (all of the ones that get used the most) seem to wearing and getting quite a bit of slop in them. I just figured rather than replace three of the four and then have the fourth one re-keyed I would just get all new knobs/deadbolts and have everything match. I figured it would be just as easy to order everything with matching key rather than peice the job.

Mike.
 

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I really like the Kwikset smart key system. It's the most secure insecure lock you'll find from big box stores. They use a completely different system, so they are virtually immune to picking and bumping. Unfortunately, they have several serious flaws which open them up to different attacks. I was at Defcon this year, and these two guys had a pretty good video demonstration of different attacks. You can see one of them here:

http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2013/08/kwikset-smarkey-lock-vulns/

Unfortunately, the truth is that to get secure locks, you're going to need to spend well over $100 per lock, and you're going to have to spend a ton whenever you loose a key and want a new one made. In America, we all tend to put on junk locks and then insure our possessions. If you want a good lock, look at what people in foreign countries use. I promise you, it wont be the junk that HD or Lowes sell.
 

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No dig taken. The ones on my shop door, exterior garage door and back door of the house going into the garage (all of the ones that get used the most) seem to wearing and getting quite a bit of slop in them. I just figured rather than replace three of the four and then have the fourth one re-keyed I would just get all new knobs/deadbolts and have everything match. I figured it would be just as easy to order everything with matching key rather than peice the job.

Mike.

You can get new backsets for about 12 bucks each. That may tighten up the feel.
 
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