Toyota Security Lug Nut Tool?

[Greatwhitewing]

I have inherited the care of a Toyota Tacoma Pre-runner truck. It needs front wheel bearings but I cannot find the tool to remove the lugnuts from the stuff left behind. I really don't want to get into specifics of why I have the truck, it's personal and no I cannot talk to the owner (it's not a death).

Here is the best pic I can get with my cell phone. Where can I acquire the tool I need to remove this lugnut? I prefer not to buy a whole boat-load of tools (I know, heresy here) just to get the job done. I don't know if this is factory equipment or aftermarket.

Thanks for your help

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[andywander]

use a small disc in an angle grinder to carve a slot in it, and then use a big chisel to knock it loose.

 

[Greatwhitewing]

use a small disc in an angle grinder to carve a slot in it, and then use a big chisel to knock it loose.

That will work but not the answer I was hoping for.

 

[Buckgnarly]

You sure the key is not in te truck somewhere? They look like McGuards, the lock number might also be in the owners manual or associated with the VIN if they are stock.

 

[Skin]

the keys are usually factory equipment. Check in the spare tire tools. Im sure you can buy the 1 socket online somewhere or just go to the dealer however the latter may want to sell you a kit.

For what its worth I've seen people smash on undersized sockets to get them off then just replace it with a regular lug nut.

 

[Greatwhitewing]

You sure the key is not in te truck somewhere? They look like McGuards, the lock number might also be in the owners manual or associated with the VIN if they are stock.

Not in the truck for sure. I checked VIN code and didn't see anything about locking lugnuts. I checked tool boxes left behind and nothing I can see looks like the right tool. I know there has to be one cause I know he has had the wheel off before.

I am assuming I have to get a tool for this thread.

 

[Greatwhitewing]

the keys are usually factory equipment. Check in the spare tire tools. Im sure you can buy the 1 socket online somewhere or just go to the dealer however the latter may want to sell you a kit.

For what its worth I've seen people smash on undersized sockets to get them off then just replace it with a regular lug nut.

I checked the spare tire tool kit, no joy. I also checked the tool box left behind.

 

[Buckgnarly]

Not in the truck for sure. I checked VIN code and didn't see anything about locking lugnuts. I checked tool boxes left behind and nothing I can see looks like the right tool. I know there has to be one cause I know he has had the wheel off before.

I am assuming I have to get a tool for this thread.

If you cannot find the number, and Toyota does not have a record from the VIN, you will need to either get a toolto remove them or cut them off.

Is there an owners manual? I put my sticker with lock ID in there, you can order a key from McGard f you can find that number.

 

[Buckgnarly]

FYI, keys look like this.....

http://www.summitracing.com/parts/mcg-24220

 

[Greatwhitewing]

If you cannot find the number, and Toyota does not have a record from the VIN, you will need to either get a toolto remove them or cut them off.

Is there an owners manual? I put my sticker with lock ID in there, you can order a key from McGard f you can find that number.

There is an owners manual but I saw nothing regarding any lug nut info or McGuard.

 

[Buckgnarly]

Sticker might be in the glovebox somewhere, or with jack tools?

 

[Greatwhitewing]

FYI, keys look like this.....

http://www.summitracing.com/parts/mcg-24220

That's an option I guess, slotting the one on the truck and replacing it. Not sure a locking lug nit is really needed either???

 

[jredmond1107]

"Damaged lug nut removal socket" aka "turbo socket" at most auto parts stores but idk about the Zone, hammer on, short extension on long ratchet/breaker bar (its a flip socket) or in a pinch the next closest size 12 pt 1/2 drive socket IE the one that ALMOST slips on but not quite, hammer that on and its the same idea... a lot quieter if you hammer w soft face deadblow or big rubber mallet if its night time and in a dark unsecure place and if you use an impact "burp" the trigger but that will be REALLY loud and may just shear the teeth off the socket instead of removing it- good luck hope the guy isn't like me w motion activated lighting cameras a big nasty Rott a K-9 Shepherd and a shotgun. But I mean ive done dumb things before that'd be the way to do it- "rapid pump" jack and some cinder blocks and remember to wear gloves to prevent Come-Backs! LOL

 

[Skin]

I checked the spare tire tool kit, no joy. I also checked the tool box left behind.

smash a twist socket on it and impact it off. Alternately you can roll the dice a kit like this will fit. Honda, and Toyota just rebadge McGard kits like the one below so that's why I say its usually OEM.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/McGard-Toyo...fits=Model:Tacoma&hash=item5af3d35d57&vxp=mtr

 

[Greatwhitewing]

"Damaged lug nut removal socket" aka "turbo socket" at most auto parts stores but idk about the Zone, hammer on, short extension on long ratchet/breaker bar (its a flip socket) or in a pinch the next closest size 12 pt 1/2 drive socket IE the one that ALMOST slips on but not quite, hammer that on and its the same idea... a lot quieter if you hammer w soft face deadblow or big rubber mallet if its night time and in a dark unsecure place and if you use an impact "burp" the trigger but that will be REALLY loud and may just shear the teeth off the socket instead of removing it- good luck hope the guy isn't like me w motion activated lighting cameras a big nasty Rott a K-9 Shepherd and a shotgun. But I mean ive done dumb things before that'd be the way to do it- "rapid pump" jack and some cinder blocks and remember to wear gloves to prevent Come-Backs! LOL

No stealth needed. This all legit... Just cannot communicate with owner.,

 

[SouthCoastMudder]

It's factory toyota

 

[Greatwhitewing]

It's factory toyota

Thanks, that's helpful but how do I acquire a key?

 

[Buckgnarly]

smash a twist socket on it and impact it off. Alternately you can roll the dice a kit like this will fit. Honda, and Toyota just rebadge McGard kits like the one below so that's why I say its usually factory.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/McGard-Toyo...fits=Model:Tacoma&hash=item5af3d35d57&vxp=mtr

Problem is that McGard uses many different patterns, so odds are that is not the particular one he has.

 

[Buckgnarly]

That's an option I guess, slotting the one on the truck and replacing it. Not sure a locking lug nit is really needed either???

I got rid of mine when I moved away from Philly! Found them to be more of a PITA than worth it, especially in VT!

 

[mech-tech]

I know the toyota 4 runners had them under the seat hidden away. Might wanna go dig around a used auto parts yard?

 

[wafrederick]

I have one tool for them if there is no key for them: air hammer.I do this without doing any damage to the rim and replace with a regular lug nut.No one is going to steal factory rims.

 

[srmofo]

They are not factory. Dealers install them as an up charge to naive customers . Without the lock number you are pretty much Sol. Get a locknut remover socket. Do not use a chisel unless you have plenty of clearance to get the nut spinning. I can't count the number of times customers have completely fubared lock nuts before bringing it to me. What is normally a half hour repair suddenly becomes a several hour ordeal.

 

[superautobacs]

Sounds like you'll have to visit your local Toyota dealership and they'll have a master key set. They'll find the matching key and corresponding key # for it.

If not, you can get this in the appropriate size for removal:

 

[4xdog]

My 2001 Tacoma had the wheel lock code handwritten in the owners manual / warranty book by the selling dealer. Maybe if you contact the dealer who delivered the car, they'll have a record? (If you don't know who that is, Toyota does fershure, and you can register your VIN online to see it in their system).

The socket comes in a small heavy-duty vinyl ziplock bag.

 

[Wine-o1]

Sounds like you'll have to visit your local Toyota dealership and they'll have a master key set. They'll find the matching key and corresponding key # for it.

If not, you can get this in the appropriate size for removal:

X2 or you could buy a cheap 19mm 12pt socket and hammer it on the wheel locks to remove. Then hammer the socket off the wheel lock and repeat.

 

[Greatwhitewing]

Sounds like you'll have to visit your local Toyota dealership and they'll have a master key set. They'll find the matching key and corresponding key # for it.

If not, you can get this in the appropriate size for removal:

Where do I get those? Looks like it's based on diameter of lug nut, true?

 

[shockwave]

A couple of options
1 drive to dealership and use there master kit
2 twist socket made by Irwin works great
3 find original key
4 use the removal tool that u hammer on and take off with impact

 

[silversilvia]

Had this problem on a miata I bought from a use car dealership. Take a good picture and email it to mcgard and they will send u one for like 30 bucks.

In this case I had the tool but the key sheared its teeth off.

If u just need to remove 1 u can pound in a socket and remove it. U may damage your socket but sure is cheaper than a key, of course u will have to buy a new set of lug nuts after that

 

[Greatwhitewing]

My 2001 Tacoma had the wheel lock code handwritten in the owners manual / warranty book by the selling dealer. Maybe if you contact the dealer who delivered the car, they'll have a record? (If you don't know who that is, Toyota does fershure, and you can register your VIN online to see it in their system).

The socket comes in a small heavy-duty vinyl ziplock bag.

Problem is I am not the registered owner. I would assume Toyota would not just hand out security lugnut code. I may have legal rights soon??

I am not good at lying...

 

[Greatwhitewing]

A couple of options
1 drive to dealership and use there master kit
2 twist socket made by Irwin works great
3 find original key
4 use the removal tool that u hammer on and take off with impact

Well I I may get the original tool (MAYBE?) but if I cannot where do I get the twist socket? Irwinn=home despot?

 

[NHBandit]

Having managed and worked at a few different salvage yards we always kept a bucket of the various "keys" in the dismantling shop for situations like this. There are ALOT of different keys though. I also have a set of specialty tapered hardened sockets that you drive on and then remove the nut with an impact. The first solution would require you driving to a salvage yard and finding a friendly worker who would spend the time to locate the proper key and take the nuts off for you. The second option isn't cheap and you'll likely never use those sockets again. Is there a reason you can't use an air chisel and then replace them with normal nuts or is that a secret too ?

 

[SouthCoastMudder]

I would try the dealer fiRst, but they always came with the key and key code in a small plastic bag with the owners manual with our toyotas. And as someone above said it isn't OEM but it is the style that is in the toyota accessory catalog, so dealer add on...

 

[Greatwhitewing]

Is there a reason you can't use an air chisel and then replace them with normal nuts or is that a secret too ?

NO, not if that is the best answer.

After this thread i am REALLY hoping to find the original key.

 

[jredmond1107]

yeah twist socket turbo socket etc burp the impact though and a size smaller 12pt socket will work too but youll need a vise to get it off... that's the most effective way- I have no idea why people put locking lugs on stock rims- where is it so bad that the thieves even steal stock rims? honestly. what thief is bad off enough to jack some stock 16in wheels and tires and I cuss about it every time the customer has me playing where's waldo in their horribly disorganized vehicle- I laugh when I get to charge for removal... people kill me

 

[superautobacs]

Where do I get those? Looks like it's based on diameter of lug nut, true?

Yes, based on OD of security lug/nut.
The one pictured is made by Ko-ken, but if you're in a pinch, and you don't have access to a tool truck, your best best bet would be those "turbo" sockets or bolt extractor sockets that's already mentioned. IRWIN is one brand and they call them bolt-grip. AFAIK, they don't sell them individually. Metric and standard sizes do overlap, so hopefully there should be a matching size for your lug nut.

 

[NHBandit]

and I cuss about it every time the customer has me playing where's waldo in their horribly disorganized vehicle- I laugh when I get to charge for removal... people kill me

LoL... reminds me of the time I had a guy drop off Dodge minivan for a blower motor replacement. It's under the passenger side dash (extremely easy to swap)and his right front floor was piled to the roof with trash. I called him upfront and explained that the estimate I had given was going to be $300 more than I quoted because I was going to send his van out to be professionally cleaned before I would lay in **** to make a lousy hour labor charge. Or he could come get it, clean it out, and bring it back the next day. Times like that it's nice to be your own boss...

 

[signcrafter]

From my experience there isn't a million different keys like a pad lock, there are a few different shapes. But if you find the right shape it should fit. The pictures are small but this looks like it should work, http://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-OEM-TOY...&fits=Make:Toyota&hash=item3a84a1af20&vxp=mtr. It tells what years and models it works with. This looks to be a very common Toyota OEM wheel lock. Shouldn't be hard to find. Should also be able to go down to dealer and get one. Otherwise just buy one of these and be done, http://www.tooltopia.com/lock-technology-4240.aspx

 

[Paramount Auto]

I have experience in removing these specific lock nuts using an over sized 12 point socket like mentioned above. It may be a 18mm, 19mm, 21mm, etc. Set it over the wheel nut and hammer on. Continue to remove using a 1/2" breaker bar or impact. Removes them FAR EASIER than you can imagine. This is my go the choice when i dont have access to a lock nut removal tool.

If you dont have an over sized 12 point, an oversized 6 point might work fine if you shove a penny between the lug nut and socket. It wedges between the two once you hammer it on. It works as well but may need to try it a few times because the penny may actually wear out quickly.

 

[dudutzu905]

get a 12 pt 19mm or 3/4"(that you don't plan on ever using again) socket hammer it on and get the job done, it actually fits really good that if you dont hammer it all the way when you go to put it back on(if you have to) the socket will come off/start spinning once the lug nut it's tight
the other option is to go to toyota dealership, ask them to see which key matches your locks(the key has a number) and then call the above mentioned key manufacturer and order one, it's only like $15

 

[shockwave]

Well I I may get the original tool (MAYBE?) but if I cannot where do I get the twist socket? Irwinn=home despot?

I have seen them at home depot and most part stores they are relatively pretty inexpensive too