The current sizes made here are the 1745, 1755, 1765, 1780A. getting a photo of the 4 together might be a problem.
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The current sizes made here are the 1745, 1755, 1765, 1780A. getting a photo of the 4 together might be a problem.
Since the Craftsman Professional vise is a 1745 clone you could go to your local Sears store and see that one firsthand.
kapster
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I went to my local weld supply store, they had a 1745 and 1755, no 1765. Id like to get something smaller than my 500, was eyeing the 1760 in classifieds but seems like its pretty close in size.
KAPSTER
Below see a size comparison between a Wilton 1755 and a Wilton 500, first picture and some other vises, as presented by some other GJ members in earlier posts. The descriptions of the pictures gives the vises models.
Below see a size comparison between a Wilton 1755 and a Wilton 500, first picture and some other vises, as presented by some other GJ members in earlier posts. The descriptions of the pictures gives the vises models.
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This is a photo from a Ebay listing. If anyone that has or ever seen the jaw towers on a Wilton 600S, one would find it practically impossible for this to happen without malicious intent. Slight chance something fell on it. I see it as the work of an animal!
TreePointer
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LoL, looks like someone attempted to make the jaws have the angled look of a Parker. FAIL.
But, truly, this is not a laughing matter. It's felonious vise abuse--plain and simple.
But, truly, this is not a laughing matter. It's felonious vise abuse--plain and simple.
balane
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Grab it up Nick and work your magic on it!!! Better buy some extra JB Weld though. 
ShadowRuleZ
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Missed out on a Reed 404 1/2 with the rear swivel jaw this week. Anyone from here get it?
bigcaddy
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It seems that its been a while since i've posted on here but i've been busy with work and attempting to enjoy life "outside the garage", whatever the hell that means!
I picked up a Reed 2C many months ago and the further i took it apart, the more it needed in small parts. Unfortunately, these parts can't just be picked up at any store so when i got a chance to make them, i did.
Here is a quick pictorial of a handle being built from scratch. The original handle was held i place by (2) 1/4" bolts with lots of weld beads and braise material slathered all over them.
The handle was rebuilt using some 3/4" mild steel with the ends turned down just enough to press on the metal ball ends. I might drill and stake them but they seem to be pretty tight on there.
If anybody is looking for the metal ball ends, Industrial Metal Supply in Burbank or the Inland Empire location is the place to get them. I think they were around 75 cents each.
I picked up a Reed 2C many months ago and the further i took it apart, the more it needed in small parts. Unfortunately, these parts can't just be picked up at any store so when i got a chance to make them, i did.
Here is a quick pictorial of a handle being built from scratch. The original handle was held i place by (2) 1/4" bolts with lots of weld beads and braise material slathered all over them.
The handle was rebuilt using some 3/4" mild steel with the ends turned down just enough to press on the metal ball ends. I might drill and stake them but they seem to be pretty tight on there.
If anybody is looking for the metal ball ends, Industrial Metal Supply in Burbank or the Inland Empire location is the place to get them. I think they were around 75 cents each.
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Outlawmws
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Nice job BC! Did you weld the balls on, or is that a press fit?
bigcaddy
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Pressed on. I didn't take a picture of the handle in the press but they are on tight. I still might pin them but at this point it might just be overkill.
Next up for the vise is the swivel base bolt......then the rear nut tension screw, followed by the jaw inserts screws.
Like i said, this vise was a basket case but didn't look that bad when i bought it. I didn't take too close of a look but they aren't exactly that hard to make. Besides, i was getting a great price and just wanted to get home and start tinkering.
I'm just worried for the guy that buys it off me because its gonna be a 1000.00 vise when i done putting all of this labor into it
Next up for the vise is the swivel base bolt......then the rear nut tension screw, followed by the jaw inserts screws.
Like i said, this vise was a basket case but didn't look that bad when i bought it. I didn't take too close of a look but they aren't exactly that hard to make. Besides, i was getting a great price and just wanted to get home and start tinkering.
I'm just worried for the guy that buys it off me because its gonna be a 1000.00 vise when i done putting all of this labor into it
oldldh
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At the rate I charge for my labor, 400 hours wouldn't be enough to keep up with you...
Ya dun gud, Bubba...
Ya dun gud, Bubba...
KMScott
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Big Caddy
I have been getting ready to build handles and wanted to share what steel I think is best. I found that this stuff that will not bend very easy, I use it for the 1/4 and 5/16 handles on my swivel clamps. I finally bent the 1/4 handle with a cheater pipe, It is called Cold Rolled 1144 Steel Round Bar, The way it is made and treated makes it very hard and to bend, Cheap too. You can get it here.
http://www.stockcarsteel.com/cold-rolled-steel-bar/cold-rolled-1144-steel-round-bar
Nice job on your handles, I would pin it if it was me.
Kevin
I have been getting ready to build handles and wanted to share what steel I think is best. I found that this stuff that will not bend very easy, I use it for the 1/4 and 5/16 handles on my swivel clamps. I finally bent the 1/4 handle with a cheater pipe, It is called Cold Rolled 1144 Steel Round Bar, The way it is made and treated makes it very hard and to bend, Cheap too. You can get it here.
http://www.stockcarsteel.com/cold-rolled-steel-bar/cold-rolled-1144-steel-round-bar
Nice job on your handles, I would pin it if it was me.
Kevin
bigcaddy
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Thanks, Kevin. I don't recall what this stuff is but its much more durable then your average cold rolled steel. I think i picked up a few lengths at Mac Steel in San Bernardino for some project and it worked out perfectly.
This is the first time i've ever made a handle for a vise and will usually pass them up if they are missing something like that. Now i plan on visiting a guy this weekend with a Prentiss thats missing the operating handle.
Ill get the Reed handle into the mill sometime later next week and slap a few holes into it and make it permanent.
Got my first vise refurb under my belt! It's a Rock Island 593 I picked up off CL for $20. It appears it was not babied, so I took some time to love on it.
I was a little surprised as to the sloppiness of the casting on the back of the slide as pictured, I took some time to square it up, as well as needing to file the top and side edges from some inappropriate beating. I also had to make new jaw screws out of cap head bolts on my bench grinder (no metal lathe..... yet), as the screws had a unique tapper to them, my taper ended up being slightly steeper but it seems to make for a more snug fit.
But I am very pleased with the way she turned out. No slop and amazingly smooth.
I was a little surprised as to the sloppiness of the casting on the back of the slide as pictured, I took some time to square it up, as well as needing to file the top and side edges from some inappropriate beating. I also had to make new jaw screws out of cap head bolts on my bench grinder (no metal lathe..... yet), as the screws had a unique tapper to them, my taper ended up being slightly steeper but it seems to make for a more snug fit.
But I am very pleased with the way she turned out. No slop and amazingly smooth.
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oldldh
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Todd---Ya dun gud, Bubba...
However, that $20.00 price does **** a tad!!!
However, that $20.00 price does **** a tad!!!
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balane
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I haven't been able to find Snap On decals that match that perfectly, with the mirror background. The easiest way is probably to make one in photoshop and then have a local printer print them up on mirrored decal stock. I've done this before and it works great.
Mohawk Dave
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Wow. That's hard to believe that with all the SO fanboys out there, these are not readily available. I scoured the web as well, but to no avail.
balane
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Here's a 1935 Rock Island 577 I just got finished with. The jaws are 6" wide, height is 14" and the length is 25" The weight I don't know because it pegged my 150 pound shipping scale, it's quite heavy and no fun to move. My arms are sore after this one, started out as a solid rusty basket case. Works great now. Apologies but this one was just too heavy for a trip out to the stump.
Edit: Most of the work on this one involved removing about a pound of crappy old grease that somebody had put pretty much everywhere. I filled a good sized butter tub with old grease. What a mess!
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Edit: Most of the work on this one involved removing about a pound of crappy old grease that somebody had put pretty much everywhere. I filled a good sized butter tub with old grease. What a mess!
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GETRIDAONE
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balane, Where do you find the time to do all these restorations so quick ?
I have honey do projects, a dog to walk, other stuff to fix. I have a Emmert pattern makers vise I am trying to make some missing parts for. It seems to take forever to degrease and media blast all the parts. Nothing seems to get finished.
I have honey do projects, a dog to walk, other stuff to fix. I have a Emmert pattern makers vise I am trying to make some missing parts for. It seems to take forever to degrease and media blast all the parts. Nothing seems to get finished.
balane
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Well, I have those things too including a demanding, highly-active 3 year old Border Collie. I guess the honest answer is a combination of not sleeping very much and never doing anything fun. That's honestly the only way I get everything done. Oh yes, I only very seldom watch TV, maybe an hour per week tops.
balane
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This one was easy to date. 1 35 was stamped on the bottom of the dynamic jaw towards the front, on the back side of both jaw inserts, underneath the swivel base and also on the bottom of the stationary jaw.
balane
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See one post above yours.
ZRX61
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.... heads to garage to dismantle Rock Island...
ZRX61
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I saw that after I posted, hence the edit/deletionSee one post above yours.
ZRX61
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My RockIsland has "K512" on it....? February 1951?
balane
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Wow, I don't know on that one. Is May of 1912 outside the realm of reason?
bigcaddy
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I think the numbers you are referring to are casting/part/lot numbers from when they were made.
GETRIDAONE
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http://www.garagejournal.com/forum/newreply.php?do=newreply&p=3430096
Hope the link works. History on Rock Island / Birtman Electric The 544 I have has the Birtman Electric tag riveted to the side. It has to be after 1930 as that is when they bought the company.
Hope the link works. History on Rock Island / Birtman Electric The 544 I have has the Birtman Electric tag riveted to the side. It has to be after 1930 as that is when they bought the company.
ZRX61
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So do both of mine. The restored one (574) isn't here so I can't look at the stamped numbers on that. The one that's here is a static 594, the other one is the swivel version.
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Mohawk Dave
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Picked this up today and really stoked on it. It is a CARDINAL MACHINE CO SPEED VISE MODEL 140 4" jaw. It's cool b/c you can lift the handle and slide it in or out without threading. So, with the nut being only half a nut, it may not be as strong as others, but the cool factor is there and this will be another home interior decoration once I facelift it. They are buttress threads as well. oh yea, I splurged. 75 greenbacks for the "want". Sure wish it had the swivel base though. Anyone got one?
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Mohawk Dave
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And I picked this up yesterday. American Scale No 75. 3.5" jaws. Got it all loose with WD40/ATF/PB and the blue wrench. Cool little thing. It's my first swivel jaw and I'm diggin' it.
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toomanytoyzz
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My dad's 597 is old, but I don't think 1930's old. He has owned his bodyshop for over 40 years, but thinks his (now deceased) partner picked it up at an auction in near mint condition.
I have used this thing since I was 4 years old. It has already been put into the will.
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I have a 577 Rock Island, never been used (yet)...kinda of a battleship grey, I'd say 150 lbs is just about right...same as my Hay Budden Dont make em like that anymore!
Dont make em like that anymore!balane
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Under the rust of the 577 I just finished it was most definitely originally a grey exactly as you described.