Loosening torque? Nitrocat 1200k vs 2135TiMAX

[robe5000]

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I'd also like to include that I'm not overly impressed with my MG725

 

[TheCarbideRat]

I'm still pissed off about the blah Snappy IM6100, the Fk. Wont even think about trying the MG.

my Aircat 1404PB twin -clutcher is still cranking along after 7 years, but the Mac AWP guns? There's some **** kickin goin on there...

 

[stikman56]

The MG725 is not the winner! Everyone can asses it from their sofas all they want, but I'm telling you, it's not. The Nitrocat beats it for torque, and it's MUCH quieter as well. I've tested them side by side and used them every day in a shop environment, around the other wrenches. This is the truth. Not bashing the MG725, but you simply have to give the credit where it's due. The Nitrocat is on top, when you test it against a 2135timax, MG725, CAT4150. It just is the strongest, and the others are real strong wrenches.

 

[stikman56]

Motor isn't "sealed" on any pneumatic impact. They all need oil. Air goes in and air goes out, right along with the oil. You must oil them, for them to survive. Snap-On's have sealed hammers with Red Line installed from the factory though.

 

[stikman56]

So tech next to me bout a rebadged mac tools impact that I could tell was either a air cat 1100 torque or 1200 torque. Anyways he plugged it in and hit the trigger sounded like a quiet race car! Now this is the 1st time I have ever seen one or heard one first thoughts super quiet. So then he pulled off a nut off of a truck. It was still really quiet, I have ir with quiet technology in it and it was loud compared to this. Next I saw how it took of the lug nut with ease, so I grabbed my mg725 impacted a lug on the truck for a fewseconds, the took off the nut with ease with the aircat. Then impacted the lug back on the aircat, tried same thing with the mg725, I'm not gonna lie but I was a little embarassed how long it took the mg725 to take it off when the aircat made it seem so easy

This is true. I've been telling people this,and the Snap-On guys simply choose not to believe it. It beats any MG725, any 2135timax, any CAT4150....it just beats them. Strongest 1/2" impact I've tested yet. all the guys on my shift had a Nitrocat before it was over....LOL Mine did what all their's could not. They changed their minds pretty quickly, I will say. I guess it's different when you actually see it.

 

[stikman56]

even if the nitrocat if more powerful than the snappy, how long will it last?

They're built well actually. I've been inside all of them, seen what breaks,seen the weak points of each wrench. My choice is the Nitrocat. They use pin style hammers, and they typically don't last as long as twin hammers, but they are much smoother, make more torque, and it's cheap to buy the pins and cam as well. So for me, these are the wrench. The Aircat's use the twin hammer design, so to be honest, I can't actually think of what would fail first on those. The output shaft of the rotors are so much larger than the 2135timax, it's not even funny. Have had many 2135's with broken rotors , AND broken tip valves, ( they're plastic) come through, but have yet to see it on a Nitrocat. The Aircat 1150K that's out now is also rated at 1295 ft. lbs. Haven't tested one yet, though.

 

[stikman56]

My boss and another coworker both have 1/2" NitroCats (one is a rebranaded Mac) and I have a 2135Ti non-max. Nitrocats sound cool and competing strength is close, BUT, in the end, my IR usually owns them in the loosening arena. Espeically when it comes down to people that have overtightened axle nut sockets.
They're nice impacts, don't get me wrong, but I'll still choose my Ti over them any day of the week. For the extra $$$$, do yourself a favor

I find this post interesting. My Nitrocat 1000M beat everything in the shop,so much so, that the other techs each bought one (from me) and sold their's. ( CAT4150, and a 2135TI) It did what their's couldn't when it came down to a rusty bolt that just wouldn't move. Mine has beat every 2135timax, and MG725 I've ever tested it against. There's a post on here of a guy with an MG725 who tested it against a Nitrocat 1200K in their shop, and said he was a little embarrassed how easy the Nitrocat made it look. His findings have been mine as well with these Nitrocat's. The Nitrocats like any other wrench will lose power over time, and with them, it's usually the hammer pins and cam that need replacing.

 

[stikman56]

also, for a fact, nothing will beat the Nitrocat for the money...my 1100 cost me 162 with free shipping from tooltopia......my 550ft lb IR composite cost 179.99.....

So far, nothing I've tested against it, beats it, even for more money. That's a fact. The MT2769 that's out now,boasts 1300 ft. lbs. Just bought one, am going to see how it stacks up against the Nitrocat.

 

[stikman56]

yes, because the latter is a compleatly made up number!
both companys make good guns, the IR is more powerful, yet I always reach for my mini NitroCat

Same deal in my shop. My 1000m made a believer out of the other techs. They sold theirs for Nitrocat's.

 

[stikman56]

So I wanna know one thing, what is the strongest impact, I think all the tool companies or some third party test should be done! Film it and record results for everyone to see

Strongest out of what I've seen mentioned here is the 1200K. Some people might not like the Nitrocat, hey we all have our preference, I understand that , but the strongest between the MG725, 2135timax,1200k, is the 1200K. I've tested them all against each other. I do it for a living, so I've seen a lot of impact wrenches come through here.

 

[stikman56]

I'm still pissed off about the blah Snappy IM6100, the Fk. Wont even think about trying the MG.

my Aircat 1404PB twin -clutcher is still cranking along after 7 years, but the Mac AWP guns? There's some **** kickin goin on there...

I'm itching to get my hands on an AWP050 and test it against the 1200K. The 1200K is stating 35 ft' lbs. more, but we'll see how they stack up against each other. Just landed an MT2769,they boast 1300 torques, going to put it against a 1200K and see what's strongest. I'm looking for one (still) that can top the Nitrocat. It's only a matter if time, I'm sure, as they all are trying to be on top.

 

[stikman56]

I bought the 1200K today. My Snapon guy stated it is a Snapon approved tool and no questions 2 year warranty as long as you oil it. He also stated some have said it doesn't sound as strong as the MG due to it being a quoted tool, which is one of its selling points. He also said Air Cat came into the business on the construction side and moved into some assembly plants. I'm very pleased with it so far and it is a very quiet gun. I'm gonna buy the 3/8" next week. Just my $.02.

When it comes to torque, they rock don't they?