Filters for OLD air compressor

[tkcas01]

I am trying to help keep things maintained around my Mom's place and there is this OLD compressor that is in constant use in conjunction with the water well. I got curious about the filters on the air intake and it looks like they have not been changed/cleaned in a LONG time!

Thing is, I can't tell what kind of compressor it is to look up parts. As they are just 5" round, it seems they would be pretty standard.

Any ideas by looking at the pictures where I can get new filter material? Also not sure what all the different layers are and if they all need replacing or just the outer two, which I am thinking are wool felt and are filthy.

 

[truckdriver]

I would just replace it with this.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/like/350861048136?lpid=82

 

[tkcas01]

I would just replace it with this.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/like/350861048136?lpid=82

Thanks - I suspected that might be one option, but do I need to worry about capacity, or the amount of air that can be pulled in per stroke. Are those essentially "one size fits all?"

 

[Davefr]

That looks like a std. NPT fitting. Why not just use one of these:
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00153AIMQ/?tag=atomicindus08-20

 

[Davefr]

Thanks - I suspected that might be one option, but do I need to worry about capacity, or the amount of air that can be pulled in per stroke. Are those essentially "one size fits all?"

No, but I'd bet that filter exceeds the CFM capacity of that little "one lung" pump. Those Solberg filters come in many different thread and CFM sizes.

Do you have the specs on that pump or can you provide the HP of the motor?

P.S. If that filter hasn't been changed in a long time I bet the compressor's oil is just as bad. I'd change it to. You should also give that motor a couple drops of oil and check the belt.

 

[Dirty Diesels]

I am trying to help keep things maintained around my Mom's place and there is this OLD compressor that is in constant use in conjunction with the water well. I got curious about the filters on the air intake and it looks like they have not been changed/cleaned in a LONG time!

Thing is, I can't tell what kind of compressor it is to look up parts. As they are just 5" round, it seems they would be pretty standard.

Any ideas by looking at the pictures where I can get new filter material? Also not sure what all the different layers are and if they all need replacing or just the outer two, which I am thinking are wool felt and are filthy.

Depends on the diameter of those filters, I used to have an hoover that had round air filters just like that one but cannot for the life of myself remember which one it were, Amazon & Ebay are worth a try !

 

[sberry]

yes, its small, all that stuff will allow for use in a dusty shop, Almost any filter would work, one of those cans might help sound. I agree, do the oil and the belt. Drain the water out of the tank.

 

[Dirty Diesels]

Got it, it were an older model Dyson, if they are right diameter try these http://www.godfreys.com.au/vacuum-cleaner-parts/vacuum-cleaner-filters/qf5-vacuum-filter-for-dyson-vacuums

If you shop around you might get a better price !

 

[Skin]

Solberg makes a whole slew of filter canisters and filters. Its often easier to just replace the whole thing. All you need to know is the thread size then just screw it in (the new canister includes the filter).

http://www.solbergmfg.com/ViewSeriesDetail.aspx?SeriesId=2&src=hscroll

 

[sberry]

I would rinse that out, see how bad it looked and stuff it back in.

 

[tkcas01]

Do you have the specs on that pump or can you provide the HP of the motor?

P.S. If that filter hasn't been changed in a long time I bet the compressor's oil is just as bad. I'd change it to. You should also give that motor a couple drops of oil and check the belt.

Can't make out anything on the pump itself. The motor is 2 HP, 1750 RPM.

Good advice on the oil. Yes, as a rule my Dad's definition of "maintenance" was fixing something once it broke, not PM.

 

[sberry]

This is a place I am an Amsoil or Royal Purple fan. The synth comp oils really seem to have a long life. In that old pump it could be the oil may last for the life of the unit. A sample of my last change would have been interesting. It must have had hundreds of run hours, near a 1000 maybe, was years, it looked so nice coming out I had to wonder.

 

[fury9]

Might be a small Kellogg-American pump, judging by the color.http://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=194550

 

[Davefr]

Can't make out anything on the pump itself. The motor is 2 HP, 1750 RPM.

Good advice on the oil. Yes, as a rule my Dad's definition of "maintenance" was fixing something once it broke, not PM.

At 2 HP that pump can't be putting out more then about 5 CFM max. Any filter rated 5 CFM or less would be just fine.

Yes!! Drain the tank too!!

 

[930dreamer]

X2 on the Kellogg American.

http://www.aircompeq.com/ka.htm

 

[tkcas01]

Yes!! Drain the tank too!!

Thanks. THAT part we have down. Drain it several times a year.

 

[tkcas01]

X2 on the Kellogg American.

http://www.aircompeq.com/ka.htm

Hmmm, that is interesting. Those numbers look similar to one stamped on the cylinder head of the pump - 320K480. Maybe that is the model of the pump?

Might it be similar to the 321TV shown on your link?

 

[sasquatch12]

Why not as posted, just wash the filter -filters out in warm soapy water, dry them out once they appear clean, a gentle blow in the correct direction will help some, then reinstall.
Good chance that is all they need and once you wash them out you'll know if they have deteriorated at all , then consider a replacement.

 

[tkcas01]

Why not as posted, just wash the filter -filters out in warm soapy water, dry them out once they appear clean, a gentle blow in the correct direction will help some, then reinstall.
Good chance that is all they need and once you wash them out you'll know if they have deteriorated at all , then consider a replacement.

Thought of this, but worried they might fall to pieces when wet and the water system would be shut down until I found replacements. I can still give it a try, though.

Somewhere I had read about oiling them? Does that apply to this kind of filter?

 

[sasquatch12]

Doubt if they were oiled originally, so i wouldn't bother yet.

 

[Skin]

foam loses its moisture and crumbles over the years. Like I said i'd just replace the filter assembly, which I've done myself. I think it was about $35.00. Alternately you could just buy a foam filter from a small engine shop or something similar, cut it to size and stuff it in. Its only an air compressor. My 50s era unit just has a metal weave filter which I doubt is effective at all for airborne dust/dirt. It still works.

 

[Davefr]

Thought of this, but worried they might fall to pieces when wet and the water system would be shut down until I found replacements. I can still give it a try, though.

Somewhere I had read about oiling them? Does that apply to this kind of filter?

If this pump is used to keep your Mom's well supplied with water then I wouldn't skimp on a $15 filter. There's a huge difference between a compressor used to fill tires and one needed to supply well water.

Keep this thing well maintained!!

 

[Fixnair]

Carpet pad backing cut to size would work well. Cheap too. Cut as many as will fit in the housing, pack them in tightly.

 

[tkcas01]

Thanks all for your help. Great experience with my first time posting on this forum!

One final question - assuming this is a Kellogg American, and from the pix it would seem so - what kind of oil is used in the pump?

 

[Davefr]

Thanks all for your help. Great experience with my first time posting on this forum!

One final question - assuming this is a Kellogg American, and from the pix it would seem so - what kind of oil is used in the pump?

The vast majority of these type of pumps use SAE 30 non-detergent motor oil. (unless it operates at temp extremes).

If this unit is not maintained that well I'd upgrade to a synthetic compressor oil.

Here's one example:
http://www.zorotools.com/g/All-Season Synthetic Lubricant/00055175/

 

[tkcas01]

As everyone has been so helpful and there seems to be interest in the Kellogg American compressors I thought I would post a pic of the entire thing...

 

[unashamedlaborer]

I love it! If you want some expensive full synthetic compressor oil and a filter (you pay shipping) shoot me a pm and we will set it up. I'd be happy to help keep that fine piece of American history alive.