Who needs parts for this vise? I have a broken one
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Who needs parts for this vise? I have a broken one
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Gary Indiana
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That Emmert vise, she's a beauty and a beast at the same time
wrenchguy
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is that swivel broke?
t4runner
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Looks like the base is broken. I don"t think that helps the price.
confederatemule
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If I needed a vise, to use, and the broken off base piece came with it, I'd offer the scrap iron price, maybe.
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BFBob
Being a PA native, the trapezoid is a poor substitute for our Keystone.... No idea of the manufacturer.
I have a thing for the rail vises (got "real" ones with 6, 4 and 3 inch jaws). So whenever I see them I pick them up. provided it is CHEAP.
NO PIX, NO EVENT!!
How about a nice group shot of your I-beam - rail - vise family? It would be interesting to see the various sizes together.
BTW, excellent photos of your 1-incher.
Broken base and appears to be welded as well so it doesnt swivel.
gatewaysysop
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joe.striper
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yeah, i was excited til the seller told me the static jaw was welded right behind replaceable jaws. he sent me a pic, looks like a crappy weld. so disappointed!
navymech
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I posted a thread, but maybe someone in here can help me identify this vise? It's got 4" jaws and besides the "Made in USA" I only see the markings V-110, V-111, and V-112. I've disassembled it and I can't see anything inside or underneath anything. There's a picture of the mini Babco I picked up with it as well 
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BFBob
First off, Thank you for the kinds words about the images. I work with a late 90's digital camera using 1970's lenses.
Now for the good stuff. Here are some images from Railville.
My guess is the big boys are all Backus's. Have not found any makers marks - but thay are in need of a proper cleaning.
From left to right, the 6 inch, 4 inch and 3 inch. The little guys are there for scale, as is the sodee can.
JKB
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G20-Budo
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Hey vise guys.. so I informed my father that I'm looking for an older vise that is in good shape, so he can keep an eye open for me in his area. I then went on to tell him about this thread on GJ, and he mentioned he knows a guy that's got a HUGE vise that you guys might enjoy seeing, so I asked him to get pics that I can share it with you guys. Ok, here goes the jaws are 16" wide, and they open 19". There are no markings or castings of any kind that he could find on it. Also the screw just had a hex looking fitting on it, not a handle and it has flat/smooth jaws. Here are the pics.
Anyone have any idea what kind of vise this is?
Anyone have any idea what kind of vise this is?
bigcaddy
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The worlds ugliest drill press vise?
EOC_Jason
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It's a vise you would stick on a mill or drill press. Today Kurt is probably the best known name in the precision vises. The end is a hex that allows you to use a removable handle, or other tools to open/close. They make steel jaws for them but most machinist will use aluminum and mill out the shape of the object to hold so they can repeat a process over and over on a bunch of parts.
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bl00
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On the three inch vise, what is the function of the screw in the the end of the knob? It looks like the 6" may have also had one originally.
PghJKB
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The screw in the center of the nose is present on all three vises. (The 4 inch was rescued from some "industrial ruins" and was coverd with all sorts of crud. It has yet to be fully cleaned. The 6 inch's hole is threaded, the nose is very banged up, I figured it was lost long before I got the vise.)
The screw in these is based on a patent given to Parker that holds the handle in place. From the end of the nose in, there is a set screw, spring and a steel nub (pencil erase shaped). The nub rides on the handle. If you tighten the set screw the nub will clamp the handle in position.
There is a thread on GJ that explains all this:
http://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=188021
Here is another thread from Practical Machinist:
http://www.practicalmachinist.com/vb/antique-machinery-history/should-i-continue-use-vise-262634/
Here is the Parker patent:
http://www.google.com/patents/USRE5653
I was hoping to find out which other manufactures used/licensed the Parker patent, but have yet to meet with any success. I believe these vises were made by Backus before being taken over by Millers Falls, but without markings????
JKB
Outlawmws
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G20, I think that one is a bit light in its base structure for any but the lightest milling, but it is an awesome DP vise! I'd grab that in a NY minute!
EDIT: Wait: 16" WIDE!
Ignore my comment I was thinking more like 10" narrower just eyeballing it!
EDIT: Wait: 16" WIDE!
Ignore my comment I was thinking more like 10" narrower just eyeballing it!
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bl00
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Thanks JKB. I'm going to try to get the handle off mine and see if the inside parts are still there.
oldldh
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With that gargantuan Drill Press you just scored, you're going to need it or something similar...
You could bolt your stashed 5198 to the DP, but this one would probably work better...
drivesitfar
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I don't think Outlaw or anybody owns a drill press big enough to set G20's vise on. only 16 inch jaw width and I saw one GJ member was thinking his new 6 or 8 inch drill press vise was too big for his new drill press.
maybe Paul Bunyan owns a drill press big enough for this vise or is it maybe used for bending steel since the jaws are so wide? Light duty stand ??????
nice find G20 !!!!!!!!
Oldie: I know you want Outlaw to put that Craftsman vise in his will, but he has a lot of years left because he has a drill press to restore now. the search continues and maybe posting a picture of it as your avatar might help because some of us have probably walked past it looking for a huge Reed or Prentiss.
maybe Paul Bunyan owns a drill press big enough for this vise or is it maybe used for bending steel since the jaws are so wide? Light duty stand ??????
nice find G20 !!!!!!!!
Oldie: I know you want Outlaw to put that Craftsman vise in his will, but he has a lot of years left because he has a drill press to restore now. the search continues and maybe posting a picture of it as your avatar might help because some of us have probably walked past it looking for a huge Reed or Prentiss.
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bigcaddy
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I think that last paragraph is a bit erroneous, Drivesitfar.
The model of Craftsman vise that Oldie is chasing is impossible to ignore To ignore one at a sale would be about as easy as walking away from a naked woman beckoning you to come closer. They kinda **** you in, once you find one, make you unbolt it, race home, and pet it softly in the garage. They have the same effect on vise guys as gold nuggets do on miners. bigcaddy
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Outlawmws
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With that gargantuan Drill Press you just scored, you're going to need it or something similar...
You could bolt your stashed 5198 to the DP, but this one would probably work better...
I have had an old (thrashed) 6" Graham mill vise (Stamped USMC) on my old DP for 25+ years but the old one had a table crank. The Rockwell doesn't have a table crank and the vise alone is hard enough to move around so I was using other smaller DP vises. So that one will go back on the Canedy-Otto when done.
Outlawmws
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Not sure handle removal in needed. Getting the screw out should do it...
drivesitfar
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I know Oldie's vise must be nice because he detailed a dream he had a few days ago on a post in some thread I was reading. is it the one that looks like a 1957 Chevy that had a sticker of $50 at a garage sale I passed on because they also had a 300 pound Prentiss sitting in the corner for $100?
Autopts: really nice reference with the AA and also pointing at the name in the casting that maybe has 10 coats of paint on it and barely visable. nice looking vise though.
I don't think even Jaberwalkie's press is big enough, but its in the right family. by the way Outlaw how about posting a large picture of the Craftsman vise that seems to get Oldie all in twisted up in the game??
Autopts: really nice reference with the AA and also pointing at the name in the casting that maybe has 10 coats of paint on it and barely visable. nice looking vise though.
I don't think even Jaberwalkie's press is big enough, but its in the right family. by the way Outlaw how about posting a large picture of the Craftsman vise that seems to get Oldie all in twisted up in the game??
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WhoWhatNow
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This is my first crack at refreshing a vise. It is a Columbian 504 and weights in at about 38lbs. When it came into my care it was caked from head to toe in multiple layers of black paint. A little quality time with the wire wheel took care of that. The vise is in pretty good shape. It was obviously used but there are no cracks or welds. A little primer and paint and it looks presentable. The paint isn't perfect but this is my first complete refresh.
drivesitfar
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nice restoration of your Columbian whowhatnow. just curious is the 504 a metal badge you left un painted? also it looks like maybe this vise had another metal badge that is missing where the 2 small holes are.
looks like it's ready to bolt down and do some work.
looks like it's ready to bolt down and do some work.
WhoWhatNow
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Drivesitfar - Thanks! The 504 is stamped on a raised part of the casting. I think this is how Columbian identified their vises from this era. I guess the swivel 604's and the static 504's use the same static casting. It does look like there was a plate attached at some point but it is long gone. I think that at some point the vise belonged to a company and they affixed some type asset tag.
I think this one will go up for sale. Thanks to this web site I have a lot of project vises but a small shop!
I think this one will go up for sale. Thanks to this web site I have a lot of project vises but a small shop!
sucking chest wound
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New guy here. I have this old Craftsman I bought at a yard sale around the corner for $15. It weighs maybe 15 pounds or more. "7823" is stamped on the bottom. Would anyone be able to date this vise?
Mark in Indiana
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New guy here. I have this old Craftsman I bought at a yard sale around the corner for $15. It weighs maybe 15 pounds or more. "7823" is stamped on the bottom. Would anyone be able to date this vise?
That's a nice looking Craftsman vise. Based on the badge, I would date it from the late 40s to the early 50s.
sucking chest wound
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Thanks for the information! It's totally original and works great.
navymech
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The "V" numbers have been leading me to Milwaukee vices based off some info from another GJ member. Still trying to find more info on figuring out what I can about it, but here's some pictures after I cleaned it up a bit.
Outlawmws
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New guy here. I have this old Craftsman I bought at a yard sale around the corner for $15. It weighs maybe 15 pounds or more. "7823" is stamped on the bottom. Would anyone be able to date this vise?
Yep the catalog references show 48-57 at least, possibly a year of so either way. that No. on the bottom is probably a casting number; none of the model No.s jive.
http://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=149519
Outlawmws
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Navy, those V #'s are casting No's and I'm pretty sure more than one foundry used "v" as a lead letter, of the same foundry made vises under many labels, which also happened a lot. (I have a "Lake Side" with "V6/V7 on two parts)
navymech
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I'm guessing whatever brand used stickers or a badge instead of casting the name? I see no indication of rivets being used, so the best I can gather is maybe they used a sticker like my Babco.
I've seen ones that look almost identical from a variety of companies, but they all have brand names cast into them. I don't see any with this set of V numbers, and the similar ones with V numbers all have brand castings. Bit of a mystery.
GETRIDAONE
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navymech, The letter highlights on the bottom is a first I think !
Great job
I have a Prentiss vise that I think is WWII vintage that has a US & anchor emblem on it. I assume is was property of the Navy as some point.
Great job
I have a Prentiss vise that I think is WWII vintage that has a US & anchor emblem on it. I assume is was property of the Navy as some point.