The VISES of Garage Journal
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EOC_Jason
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Best I could do with the **** pic in the ad. Why do people think they can sell anything with unreadable pictures?
And No, I can't tell what it is...
My guess.... It's either a union parker, or a china vise...
As for the tank, because it's at the shop here and I just wouldn't feel comfortable leaving it unattended. I don't want to burn the place down!
Thanks guys, it was China and ended up going for like $55, I was NOT a bidder.
I did bid on this Enderes mini anvil and dropped out at $40, it went for $45.
Thanks guys, it was China and ended up going for like $55, I was NOT a bidder.
I did bid on this Enderes mini anvil and dropped out at $40, it went for $45.
Welcome!
That anvil would go for 3x that all day over in the Puget Sound. I would of pushed it further if I had the $$ at the time. Anyway, is what it is. I'm glad you passed on the vise.
GETRIDAONE
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I went trolling on CL and snagged a 96 lb. Polish Turtle
I went trolling on CL and snagged a 96 lb. Polish Turtle
Nice grab bro - mind sharing what you paid? Are there any damages to it?
navymech
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So I'm cleaning this Athol vise... it's like 75% de-rusted and cleaned, but to work on this area and get the inner piece out, I need to remove this bolt/pin thing.
It looks threaded from the bottom, but the top is round, so I'm a bit confused. With pliers and a lot of muscle I can get it to spin, but after spinning it a few turns, it hasn't raised at all. Which leads me to believe maybe it isn't threaded... if that's the case, does anyone know how I might go about getting it out? Or if it even does come out? It won't pull straight out, and the round head is confusing me.
It looks threaded from the bottom, but the top is round, so I'm a bit confused. With pliers and a lot of muscle I can get it to spin, but after spinning it a few turns, it hasn't raised at all. Which leads me to believe maybe it isn't threaded... if that's the case, does anyone know how I might go about getting it out? Or if it even does come out? It won't pull straight out, and the round head is confusing me.
drivesitfar
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So I'm cleaning this Athol vise... it's like 75% de-rusted and cleaned, but to work on this area and get the inner piece out, I need to remove this bolt/pin thing.
It looks threaded from the bottom, but the top is round, so I'm a bit confused. With pliers and a lot of muscle I can get it to spin, but after spinning it a few turns, it hasn't raised at all. Which leads me to believe maybe it isn't threaded... if that's the case, does anyone know how I might go about getting it out? Or if it even does come out? It won't pull straight out, and the round head is confusing me.
take a punch a little smaller than the size of that hole it's in and a couple taps with a hammer on the end of the punch should push that pin out. I've never seen one threaded and mainly just a plug to stop the piece with the threads in it from sliding out. go from the bottom up is best.
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navymech
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That was gonna be my next step, but I was hoping someone would confirm it before I just start taking a punch to an 1800's vise
bigcaddy
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That vise looks like something from the far east but i does remind me of a Record. Could it possibly be an Eron which was a japanese made copy of Record vises?
Either way, that picture appears to have been taken by Helen Keller
bigcaddy
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That was gonna be my next step, but I was hoping someone would confirm it before I just start taking a punch to an 1800's vise
Its just a hole. Think about it from Athols production line point of view. How much more would it cost them to thread that hole, along with the threaded post, and pay the assembly line monkey to assemble them?
Get a hammer and start whacking. We are awaiting pictures
GETRIDAONE
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$50.00 Not a thing wrong with it except the surface rust and needs new grease. The handle is not even bent !
Autorotica
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GETRIDAONE
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bigcaddy
"Get a hammer and start whacking"
I am working on my first Wilton and wanted to take the rear section off. I saw the pins holding it on so I gave it a lite tap and it just stopped. After about a minute of research I found you had to remove the rear cap and hope you could line up the one pin to drive both out the other side. Better to ask before you end up saying "OH SH**"
"Get a hammer and start whacking"
I am working on my first Wilton and wanted to take the rear section off. I saw the pins holding it on so I gave it a lite tap and it just stopped. After about a minute of research I found you had to remove the rear cap and hope you could line up the one pin to drive both out the other side. Better to ask before you end up saying "OH SH**"
navymech
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Its just a hole. Think about it from Athols production line point of view. How much more would it cost them to thread that hole, along with the threaded post, and pay the assembly line monkey to assemble them?
Get a hammer and start whacking. We are awaiting pictures
Just got it out with the punch
Pictures will be coming in the next few days as I have time to work on it. Just need to clean that little area and the inside, then paint her up. It's amazing how good of shape the jaws are in for such an old vise. The copper jaw protectors are real nice and shiny now too!
gasgas17
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A good customer of mine gave this vise to me. It was really rusty as if someone left it out side for awhile. Had to soak the screw with oil to get it to move with a mallet, but it runs in and out just fine now, so I cleaned it up and painted it. Not a bad vise for free.
This is a before and after of a 1994 Wilton 1760, which I purchased from work. I replaced all the jaws and the rotating base hardware. And cleaned and painted it, obviously. Now I can start making it look like when I bought it, again.
EOC_Jason
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That vise looks like something from the far east but i does remind me of a Record. Could it possibly be an Eron which was a japanese made copy of Record vises?
Either way, that picture appears to have been taken by Helen Keller
Yeah, you are right, it looks more like a Record (or a copy)... I knew it looked familiar I just couldn't put my finger on it.
Jawn
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jaker10
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Here is my Paramo No 6, 2 inch Chas Parker, 6 inch I think COO China. I have another old Little 4 inch But can't make out the markings. I still have 2 more old U.S.A. Vise's that were my dad's I have to drag home. I'll have to look and see what brand they are when I get them home. Now to get them all cleaned up and painted.
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scooternut
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Here are my Craftsman 506, Craftsman 391, chinese 6969, and unmarked old iron, which very smart people on here believe to be an American Scale, 4 inch.
Jawn
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Very nice!
Thanks!
See page 624 / post # 12479 of this thread for "before" pics. Also shows a comparison between this 3" Rock Island, a 3 1/2" Craftsman, and a 3 1/2" Columbian.
http://garagejournal.com/forum/showpost.php?p=3680500&postcount=12479
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wrenchguy
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ritzblitz
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Unbelievable price that versa vise is fetching balane, congrats!
KMScott
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Hey Guys, I am wrapping up my first set of Chas Parker jaws. I did not screw around and started with the big guy. These 8" Parkers were quite a learning experience. I just wanted to see if I still got it. Next is adding the pins and off to heat treat. I'll post pictures later when they on the restored vise.
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drivesitfar
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I might have to put Parker on my list of vises to own if you can master the jaw replacements. very nice Vise **** sir. keep up the good work.
wrenchguy
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nice, real nice.
jakemac
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Oooooooooo - nekkid jaws doin the flashdance ! Vise **** indeed ! 
oldldh
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Reverend Scott of the Church of the Flying Chips---
I hereby bestow on you the ---
Ya Dun Gud, Bubba!!!
For today...
Oh Hell---For The Week!!!
I hereby bestow on you the ---
Ya Dun Gud, Bubba!!!
For today...
Oh Hell---For The Week!!!
Rusty Musket
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Wow. If mine weren't in decent shape I would be your first customer!
Absolutely beautiful work sir.
Absolutely beautiful work sir.
Talk about Craig's List Loonies ... this one's on fleaBay: 400638281987, a Parker 276. Unless I'm hallucinating, it's got 4-6" broken off the back end of the slide, and the opening bid is $199! Okay, it's got the swivel jaw and the static part looks ok, but still!
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oldldh
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Several of us have been watching that "wounded warrior" for a while now...
If memory serves, it started at a lot more than that...
I'm old, so I don't remember how high the opening price was...
If memory serves, it started at a lot more than that...
I'm old, so I don't remember how high the opening price was...
joe.striper
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You are correct, your 6" vise is an Asian made vise. Here is a pic of my Ludell, same vise, but in really good condition. I use this as my daily work vise when I'm in the shop. I like it quite a bit and it is much nicer than many of the other Asian products you see out there.
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Alexbn921
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Re: google fail
Inspired by you viseaholics at GJ, I'm going to try to restore my grandfather's old Craftsman vise.
It's a model 5249, but I haven't been able to find much info on it. From what I could find, I'm thinking it was probably made a bit after WWII.
The base seems to be missing a spacer of some sort-- if you tighten down the base bolt until it's snug, the vise no longer rotates on the base. I'm thinking some kind of sleeve (nylon or brass?) will remedy that. I think it also used to have a pipe clamp (I think I still have half of it somewhere and there's a spacer/washer still on the shaft).
The jaws are worn pretty smooth. I took a quick look at it and I think they are screwed in.
I figure I'll strip it myself and hit it with a few coats of heavy duty paint. I can't see any evidence that it's ever been repainted so I will probably try to use a similar color or maybe go with a blue-gray to fit in with the color scheme of my garage.
Looks like one other guy here had the same vise, but he made one post about it and left. If anybody has any other information that might help me, especially where I could source pipe jaws, replacement jaws or the aforementioned spacer or any ideas about what the original color might have been) please let me know. Thanks!!
Inspired by you viseaholics at GJ, I'm going to try to restore my grandfather's old Craftsman vise.
It's a model 5249, but I haven't been able to find much info on it. From what I could find, I'm thinking it was probably made a bit after WWII.
The base seems to be missing a spacer of some sort-- if you tighten down the base bolt until it's snug, the vise no longer rotates on the base. I'm thinking some kind of sleeve (nylon or brass?) will remedy that. I think it also used to have a pipe clamp (I think I still have half of it somewhere and there's a spacer/washer still on the shaft).
The jaws are worn pretty smooth. I took a quick look at it and I think they are screwed in.
I figure I'll strip it myself and hit it with a few coats of heavy duty paint. I can't see any evidence that it's ever been repainted so I will probably try to use a similar color or maybe go with a blue-gray to fit in with the color scheme of my garage.
Looks like one other guy here had the same vise, but he made one post about it and left. If anybody has any other information that might help me, especially where I could source pipe jaws, replacement jaws or the aforementioned spacer or any ideas about what the original color might have been) please let me know. Thanks!!
Hey....I'm new in town but I was wondering if anyone might know when this vise was made?
I was painting my bench vise and I realized it had a model number on it, so I decided to look it up ZIP.....NADA, well ONE sold on ebay, no info or picture. It is a Craftsman 5249 bench vise, 4.5 inches, solid cast iron. I can't even find out how old it is! It is a real beast, it has to weigh a good 40 pounds (estimate w/out un-mounting it and weighing it)
balane
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Well look at that. Cool!!
Were you able to source new jaws or any other parts for it?
Oh, and the one that looks "really nice" isn't mine, unless you think the first pic is particularly good looking for some reason.
Outlawmws
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Balane, Dunlap was not a manufacturer, it was another marketing name similar to Craftsman and Companion, and according to one of the catalogs (marketing hype? :duuno: ) it was in honor of their Tools buyer of the era...
5249 shows up in the 1940 catalog, with 4-1/2" wide jaws, and weight is listed at a VERY surprising 38 lbs. Probably the heaviest exposed screw vise I've ever heard of.. I've never actually seen one over I think about 15 lbs...
Link to the Craftsman vise ID Thread: http://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=149519
balane
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Good to know. I think I forgot that. Ringing bells now.
I wonder what a 5" Shop King weighs. I recently had a 4" and it weighed in at 25 pounds which I thought was heavy for an exposed screw.
I wonder what a 5" Shop King weighs. I recently had a 4" and it weighed in at 25 pounds which I thought was heavy for an exposed screw.