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Outlawmws

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I just emailed him to find out...:drool::drool::drool:

His asking price is a bit much...maybe he'll deal...:evil::evil::evil:

It appears to be missing the swivel clamp...

For some unknown reason, I'm betting that's a 5196---4"...:dunno::dunno::dunno:

Thanks for keeping your eyes peeled!!!:rocker::rocker::rocker:

OK, I should have known you would have beat me to that question! :lol:

Do you have Google set for for an auto search for any reference to that thing? :evil:
 

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Alright fellas, here's a couple for you to take a look at. All rare in my book. Not mine but I'm seeking any and all information to enlighten the owner.

One he claims is a ratcheting Parker. Can anyone confirm what this is?
The other is an emmert tiger no 5.
The other is an Easton tool & machinery vise
 

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That last one has the wrong style jaw caps to be a Parker. Cool vise, probably not ratcheting, but a Quick release cam lock of some sort?
 

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Alright fellas, here's a couple for you to take a look at. All rare in my book. Not mine but I'm seeking any and all information to enlighten the owner.

One he claims is a ratcheting Parker. Can anyone confirm what this is?
The other is an emmert tiger no 5.
The other is an Easton tool & machinery vise

The Parker is an early model, if it is a Parker. There were a couple companies that made that style. It's a quick-release of sorts, you don't see them too often but they pop up on eBay now and then. Condition is everything for those.

The "Easton Tool & Machinery" vise looks like a re-branded Reed, or possibly Yost?
 

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The lever vise is a Parker. They were advertised as early as the 1870's with the model name "Hall's Sudden Grip" vise. Someone on here has one, if I recall correctly. They commented that the lever really sticks out from the bench and gets in the way. See below for a line drawing showing how it works.

There was an Emmert Tiger on e-bay that ended a day or two ago at $131 and didn't meet the reserve. They pop up from time to time, but are fairly rare in the for sale market.

I haven't seen an Easton before. Looking on google books, they were listed among the vise manufactures in trade magazines in the 1910s and 1920s. I couldn't find anything specific though.
 

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Outlawmws

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Well the pic maps fairly well to the Parker ad in the Eprey link, but I've never seen a Parker with flat plate jaw caps. And the pic shows no markings whatsoever (Bigger brighter copy):

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It's definitely a Parker. I have the same one and it doesn't have the usual style Parker replacement jaws. And It doesn't stick out far from the bench at all. In resting position the handle sticks straight down towards the floor. It really is a super cool and super useful vise.
 

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Here is a Morgan Chicago 130 I that used to be my Grandfathers and a Yost 750-DI I recently picked up.
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Picked this up for £20 (which is around $30) . It's a Record 112. Going to clean it up and see what it's like. Might decide then to clean it up and repaint it.

If so, does anyone know any paint that is a close match?

Nice to see one of the less common Record vises. According to one of the woodwork sites there are various shades of blue used by Record over the years, BS110 roundel blue is one definition of the shade. Hammerite Dark Blue Smooth is also claimed to be a match. I've got six different Record vises I'll try to get some pictures posted. What would be interesting to see in the wild is both one of the 630 series american style 6" 170 lb and either the 12 or 14 made of hot rolled steel rather than cast.

Steve
 

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Nice to see one of the less common Record vises. According to one of the woodwork sites there are various shades of blue used by Record over the years, BS110 roundel blue is one definition of the shade. Hammerite Dark Blue Smooth is also claimed to be a match. I've got six different Record vises I'll try to get some pictures posted. What would be interesting to see in the wild is both one of the 630 series american style 6" 170 lb and either the 12 or 14 made of hot rolled steel rather than cast.

Steve

Thanks. I'll also look out for the Hammerite. Question before also choosing would be a spray or a brush application.
 
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Mark in Indiana

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Hello Vise Friends,

OMG! What a day I had!

I bought a 1952 Cincinnati No.2 MH Universal mill (Both Horizontal & vertical). With it was tooling and 6 mill/drill vises. I will have individual pictures of the vises as I clean and ID them.

The first vise is an 8" Palmgren swivel/angle vise (first picture). Does anyone have information on it. All I know is that I will need to move it with my hoist.

Other pictures are an 8" cam vise and some 6" drill vises. We used a tow truck to transport it. Thank God it was in the 50s and not raining.
 

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va.grouseman

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Previously posted by Mark in Indiana.

Hello Vise Friends,

OMG! What a day I had!
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You know in Florida the ground opens up dew to lack of limestone, but in other places around the country it's going to start opening up and swallowing homes and shops dew to excessive buildup of iron deposits. I can name 15 right off the cuff.
 

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Nice Mark
You will have fun with that Cincinnati. I ran one real similiar back in the 70's and really liked all the power feed's it has. You will get good at sweeping in the head. I am jealous, I have work for it right now. First job after it is set up is building a set of jaws for the Palmgren. Great find.
 

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Mark, you do realize that mill is just a couple of years from retirement? Worry not, Pm me for an address of a nice retirement home. It's what friends do, right?
 

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Hello Vise Friends,

OMG! What a day I had!

I bought a 1952 Cincinnati No.2 MH Universal mill (Both Horizontal & vertical). With it was tooling and 6 mill/drill vises. I will have individual pictures of the vises as I clean and ID them.

The first vise is an 8" Palmgren swivel/angle vise (first picture). Does anyone have information on it. All I know is that I will need to move it with my hoist.

Other pictures are an 8" cam vise and some 6" drill vises. We used a tow truck to transport it. Thank God it was in the 50s and not raining.

so now I need to find the deals where you buy a vise and a mill comes with it for free? that must have been a site driving that down the road on the back of the tow truck. Interesting you picked it up at a house and put it in your home's garage? Nice haul and can we be expecting a new line of vises made in the US coming out of Indiana in the future?:thumbup::thumbup:

that Old Parker with that ratchet handle is very cool looking. thanks for putting another vise on my wish list.
 

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so now I need to find the deals where you buy a vise and a mill comes with it for free? that must have been a site driving that down the road on the back of the tow truck. Interesting you picked it up at a house and put it in your home's garage? Nice haul and can we be expecting a new line of vises made in the US coming out of Indiana in the future?:thumbup::thumbup:

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When we pallet jacked out of the garage the floor raised up 3".

It's funny that you mention the new line of made in US vises. My wife said that I should consider that. Which I would if I could get the same money as they're charging for the Bugatti vise a few pages back.
 
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Build something like the Reed 209 and you will have a few of us standing in line as they come out of your garage. so your garage sank another 3 inches?

good luck with that.
 

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Build something like the Reed 209 and you will have a few of us standing in line as they come out of your garage. so your garage sank another 3 inches?

good luck with that.

So far nothing is sinking but I'm thinking of the abandoned cistern in my back yard (about 20 feet from the milling machine location) that caved in 10 years ago. :scared:
 

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When the house/garage starts sinking call Outlaw and he might have the trailer ready so your tow truck guy can drop it on. still trying to imagine what that mill hanging from the back of the tow truck driving down the street looked like yesterday. start a new thread with pics on the mill purchase, travel and set up??

we'll wait to hear what the plans are for the Vises made from a garage in Indiana. Apple started in a garage.
 

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So did several really bad bands!!!:evil::evil::evil:

If you decide to whittle a few 9" billet vises, you have a ready made customer base...now, your question would be, will they have the money to cover the new Bugatti of Nine Inch Clampers???
 

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Maybe this question belongs in Fabrication, but since it's about a vise I thought I'd ask here first. One of my Colton clamp-on vises came missing the thumbscrew that clamps it to a table edge. It has a standard 7/16 thread, so I easily fabbed up a repro. The problem is that the originals are one-piece cast iron. Mine is an ordinary bolt with the batwing made of 3/16 mild steel. It's a good match for the size and shape of the original, but the smooth finish (currently hammertone paint) is wrong.
Does anyone know a good way to distress the steel to look like cast iron? I can think of a few ways that might work, but learning from others' experience is always better!
Once I've gotten a fair resemblance, I'll braze the batwing onto the screw, and that will nicely mimic the contours of the cast piece. The unthreaded part will then be painted.
Thanks!
 

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My new addition to my vice family: This Columbian wood working vice was on my the workbench in my Grandparents basement in the shop for years. I mentioned to my parents that I wished I could go back in time to when we where clearing out the house and take this vice off the bench before the house was sold. They told me they did get the vice off the bench before the house was sold. I asked for the vice for christmas and they gave it to me. I feel super lucky to have this and will mount it on my workbench to be lovingly used!! Any one know how old and what model of vice this is?

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Maybe this question belongs in Fabrication, but since it's about a vise I thought I'd ask here first. One of my Colton clamp-on vises came missing the thumbscrew that clamps it to a table edge. It has a standard 7/16 thread, so I easily fabbed up a repro. The problem is that the originals are one-piece cast iron. Mine is an ordinary bolt with the batwing made of 3/16 mild steel. It's a good match for the size and shape of the original, but the smooth finish (currently hammertone paint) is wrong.
Does anyone know a good way to distress the steel to look like cast iron? I can think of a few ways that might work, but learning from others' experience is always better!
Once I've gotten a fair resemblance, I'll braze the batwing onto the screw, and that will nicely mimic the contours of the cast piece. The unthreaded part will then be painted.
Thanks!


Bob, the threads appears to be plated?

Get some muratic acid (swimming pool acid) and drop it in some; this will safely strip the zinc plating off, (and start the muratic to being converted to Zinc Cloride a good acid for cleaning copper/brass for soldering (i.e. old school radiators. when the muratic stops reacting to added zinc, its fully zinc chloride)

Once stripped, rust, wire brush, rust, wire brush... till you get the patina you want. I'd do that after brazing. (The heat of brazing will also age it)
 

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That's a very interesting Columbian. The second I've seen here made of plate steel rather than cast, and both were Columbians (the other was a mechanic's vise). Before you put it to work, be sure to replace the missing washer and cotter pin at the end of the slide. The dynamic jaw probably wouldn't fall out on your foot without it, but it would put a nick in the slides and/or wallow out the holes in the static jaw.
 

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How's this for a color? :D Green Apple.

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