2 post lift price questions/dealer references

[motofool33]

So, im considering a few lifts:

10k capacity hoping for a asymetric/versymetirc design to load either direction.

not looking for the cheapest, i am looking for a quality unit but am not paying mohawk prices.

Challenger E10 2759$/ i see now a C10 version is think this is usa made? 3885$
48 seconds

Bendpak XPR-10A 2865$ 45 seconds rise time

Worth American Made unit 10000ACF 2 Post Asymmetric Clear Floor Lift
3090 +plus tax delivered (includes truck adaptors and anchor bolts) Guy even called a local installer who will pick up unit and install for 500$

SPOA10 3700-3800$ non shockwave unit 45 seconds rise time


I want a certified unit, i want a company that has a good history I would prefer american made if not gonna break the bank.

i will lift my cars, toys(dune buggies/atvs) and the heaviest is my cummins diesel 4x4.

Ive spent the last few days reading through 50+ threads on lifts on here.

This thread is to compare the lifts and prices above from the dealers available. (prices i listed above are from http://www.bestbuyautoequipment.com/) seems to be one of the cheaper places for these units.

Shop is brand new with 5" thick slab

 

[sandmanrlh]

I just ordered the bendpak xpr10 it's not the offset one but I really didn't feel I needed that for my garage even though it was only a five dollar difference ,but either way I ordered it through big boys garage toys . com and talked with scott matthews seemed really nice to deal with and they sold it to me for 2,700 worth calling. sandmanrlh

 

[RandyL]

I am looking for similar, and have taken out a lot of the prospects. So far these two are still being considered.

http://www.dannmar.com/dannmar-products/two-post-lifts/brigadier-10AC.asp


http://www.derekweaver.com/rodders-garage/2-post-car-lifts/w-10de-certified/

Will be interested to read any replies to your thread.

Randy

 

[Bob C]

X=Shockwave Tech. It lifts a lot faster. Faster rise time for production work as in a Chevy garage. The faster the car goes up, quicker work gets done, faster to get next car in.

 

[motofool33]

I just ordered the bendpak xpr10 it's not the offset one but I really didn't feel I needed that for my garage even though it was only a five dollar difference ,but either way I ordered it through big boys garage toys . com and talked with scott matthews seemed really nice to deal with and they sold it to me for 2,700 worth calling. sandmanrlh

was that shipped for 2700?

X=Shockwave Tech. It lifts a lot faster. Faster rise time for production work as in a Chevy garage. The faster the car goes up, quicker work gets done, faster to get next car in.

yea i like fast, who wants to sit n wait for it to go up and down longer, but is it worth 2,000 for a hobbyist? thats to be decided.

 

[Diesel Dan]

Have you checked:
Worth
Should be less than 4 hrs from your location(houston,TX).

With shipping my 9K was around $2700 to Wisconsin. It has lifted several CTD trucks and 1 ton crewcabs with 8' beds.

 

[CobraJake]

I just put in a Bendpak XPR10A. Its my first lift. I was considering the Danmar but the sales guy at Best Buy Auto talked me into the Bendpak. Couldn't be happier!

 

[RandyL]

Jake, What pro's or con's did the salesman speak of ?

Looks like you had plenty of help! : )

Randy

 

[Diesel Dan]

Looks like you had plenty of help! : )

Most definitely!
That is one advantage of a floor plate model, I was able to set it up by myself.

 

[CobraJake]

Jake, What pro's or con's did the salesman speak of ?

Looks like you had plenty of help! : )

Randy

Well for MY application a bit lower pad height, front arm has more flexibility (29" to 43" on the Danmar and 23" to 45" on the Bendpak) He mentioned thicker construction although I'm not sure on that? Also a couple inches wider inside I believe (no big deal).

My race car is pretty low and i actually have to lift the front 1/4" to get the front arms under it. The Danmar was 1/2" more.

Overall I don't think is much difference. I looked online for months and really didn't see a complaint from either brand owner.

And come to think of it now….I think he said Bendpak owns Danmar? and the Danmar lifts are just the last version of the Bendpak's left over inventory / parts.

 

[hidollartoys]

Looked at a bunch. All the usual suspects. Bought a Worth. Factory direct.

 

[motofool33]

Looked at a bunch. All the usual suspects. Bought a Worth. Factory direct.

i emailed them (worth) we'll see what the responses are,

 

[Strouty]

So, im considering a few lifts:

10k capacity hoping for a asymetric/versymetirc design to load either direction.

not looking for the cheapest, i am looking for a quality unit but am not paying mohawk prices.

Challenger E10 2759$/ i see now a C10 version is think this is usa made? 3885$
48seconds regular or the QC version is $4800ish (27 second rise)

Bendpak XPR-10A 2865$ 45 seconds rise time

SPOA10 3700-3800$ does anyone know the difference in the SPOA10x model which model is the shockwave technology included in?

with shockwave rise 25 seconds/decent 19seconds


I want a certified unit, i want a company that has a good history I would prefer american made if not gonna break the bank.

i will lift my cars, toys(dune buggies/atvs) and the heaviest is my cummins diesel 4x4.

Ive spent the last few days reading through 50+ threads on lifts on here.

This thread is to compare the lifts and prices above from the dealers available. (prices i listed above are from http://www.bestbuyautoequipment.com/) seems to be one of the cheaper places for these units.

Shop is brand new with 5" thick slab

I would like to say the Mohawk lift is not even in the same league as any of those lifts. I know they are expensive, but you get what you pay for. They are also made in NY, versus overseas. You could probably find one used for $3k installed. If you buy a mohawk, your great grandkids will be talking about it on GJ in 60 years.

 

[motofool33]

I would like to say the Mohawk lift is not even in the same league as any of those lifts. I know they are expensive, but you get what you pay for. They are also made in NY, versus overseas. You could probably find one used for $3k installed. If you buy a mohawk, your great grandkids will be talking about it on GJ in 60 years.

i see they are good strong units, but for this item im going to buy new as im generally time crunched when i need to use it. and having to maintence an old unit or search for parts/get them replaced is not something i want to do with this item.

i havent found anything decent in the used market lately anyways all im seeing is used lifts for 3000$ without tear down or moving/installing expenses and these are the more then they are new today generally.

 

[Diesel Dan]

Personally I've never run across a used Mohawk lift, yet.
Seen many still in action however.

 

[rburke65]

Found my used 24 year old Mohawk on Craigslist, 9000# 2 post lift for $1500. Very happy with it. Cleaned it up, new paint, ordered a decal kit.....looks brand new!

 

[motofool33]

Found my used 24 year old Mohawk on Craigslist, 9000# 2 post lift for $1500. Very happy with it. Cleaned it up, new paint, ordered a decal kit.....looks brand new!

just did a search for everyzone in north america for mohawk lift nothing came up. a good friend of mine is probably going to sell off 2 rotary 10k lifts so thats likely what ill end up with. but will do research on my own just in case.

 

[Strouty]

i see they are good strong units, but for this item im going to buy new as im generally time crunched when i need to use it. and having to maintence an old unit or search for parts/get them replaced is not something i want to do with this item.

i havent found anything decent in the used market lately anyways all im seeing is used lifts for 3000$ without tear down or moving/installing expenses and these are the more then they are new today generally.

If a used Mohawk needs parts, I would be surprised. It is rare that anything goes wrong with them except the pumps. For anyone looking for used Mohawk lifts, check with the dealers in your area, they are the ones that usually have them. I lucked out and bought mine for $1,250, it is a bigger one rated at 15k but you can still pick a normal car with it. I have not installed mine yet, I am setting it up to have underground lines so it will not interfere with my future bridge crane installation.

 

[Strouty]

They use forklift masts as the uprights, even the 10k lifts make others look like it is made of pipe cleaners. The only thing I don't like is the safety is harder to release, but it is much safer than a standard lift. You actually have to pull a cable on each side to release it, really not bad if you are working under the vehicle.

 

[motofool33]

Steve From worth got back to me first thing this morning, i have added them at the top of the list. customer service here seems pretty good for a smaller company.

 

[RandyL]

Steve From worth got back to me first thing this morning, i have added them at the top of the list. customer service here seems pretty good for a smaller company.

Interesting.......

 

[motofool33]

Interesting.......

Yea Steve has left a real impression hes sent me a bunch of photos, and i get the impression if i was buying right now he'd sweeten the deal.


This is the response back from (Steve at Worth) why should i buy worth over challenger, rotary or Bendpak.

What Makes Worth Better 9,000 – 10,000 2 Post Lift Features:

1)Oversized Base plates based on 24" X 24" X 5/8" thick plate -- Engineered for safety and long term endurance not how many can fit in a shipping container from China.

2) 14" X 8" Columns.

3) Oversized Gussets connecting the columns to the bases.

4) Center Bands - A mid post flange that keeps the column from wanting to open up after time wider in the middle like a canoe.

5) The overhead beam is a solid 4 sided structural tube not a three sided sheet metal channel.

6) The Carriages have a capped gusset connecting the Torque tube that
the arms pin to. The Torque tube is a solid 4" square tube 3/8" Thick with 1/2" Plate welded top and bottom to strengthen it to eliminate the potential for arm sag ---- goes back to endurance.

7)The arm pins are 1 1/2" Cold Rolled Steel.

8)The arms are 4" X 4" Solid Structural Square tube with a 3" Structural Tube slider to eliminate sag. The arms are capped to disperse weight better . Not a 3 sided with a flat bar welded on the bottom.

9)The hydraulic cylinders (2) are a single hose unit 2 1/2" inside bore with a 1 -1/2" Rod. This is a Chain Over System (like a forklift) for Added Strength and Longevity.

10) The Equalizer Cables are 3/8” galvanized stranded wire rope. These roll on All Steel Pulleys not plastic. We have seen some import cables wire over cord…

11) The pickup pads and FREE height adapter pads are octagonal shaped and approximately 5 1/2" X 5 1/2" with 4 primary corners turned up for safety. The pads are a 1 3/8" Screw not smaller or 1" pins like some.

12)The Worth Lifts are "American Made" including all welded assemblies such as arms and carriages are manufactured at out plant in Mansfield, TX. Get in writing where the arms and carriages and all welded assemblies are made!

13) You can call here and talk to real people in the service dept not just the sales dept.

This should give you some things to consider.

Worth is the number one US manufacture of lifts
When you compare these features, there is no good reason to buy another brand of lift.

 

[lynnbilodeau]

I didn't see any pricing on the Worth site. Did you get any prices?

 

[Aquaticbob]

I own a few bendpaks, great customer service. Product quality is nothing to write home about in my opinion. They are great lifts don't get me wrong, but it left me thinking perhaps I should have gotten rotaries. Those will be my next purchase for lifts more than likely

 

[JD in DFW]

Yea Steve has left a real impression hes sent me a bunch of photos, and i get the impression if i was buying right now he'd sweeten the deal.


This is the response back from (Steve at Worth) why should i buy worth over challenger, rotary or Bendpak.

What Makes Worth Better 9,000 – 10,000 2 Post Lift Features:

1)Oversized Base plates based on 24" X 24" X 5/8" thick plate -- Engineered for safety and long term endurance not how many can fit in a shipping container from China.

2) 14" X 8" Columns.

3) Oversized Gussets connecting the columns to the bases.

4) Center Bands - A mid post flange that keeps the column from wanting to open up after time wider in the middle like a canoe.

5) The overhead beam is a solid 4 sided structural tube not a three sided sheet metal channel.

6) The Carriages have a capped gusset connecting the Torque tube that
the arms pin to. The Torque tube is a solid 4" square tube 3/8" Thick with 1/2" Plate welded top and bottom to strengthen it to eliminate the potential for arm sag ---- goes back to endurance.

7)The arm pins are 1 1/2" Cold Rolled Steel.

8)The arms are 4" X 4" Solid Structural Square tube with a 3" Structural Tube slider to eliminate sag. The arms are capped to disperse weight better . Not a 3 sided with a flat bar welded on the bottom.

9)The hydraulic cylinders (2) are a single hose unit 2 1/2" inside bore with a 1 -1/2" Rod. This is a Chain Over System (like a forklift) for Added Strength and Longevity.

10) The Equalizer Cables are 3/8” galvanized stranded wire rope. These roll on All Steel Pulleys not plastic. We have seen some import cables wire over cord…

11) The pickup pads and FREE height adapter pads are octagonal shaped and approximately 5 1/2" X 5 1/2" with 4 primary corners turned up for safety. The pads are a 1 3/8" Screw not smaller or 1" pins like some.

12)The Worth Lifts are "American Made" including all welded assemblies such as arms and carriages are manufactured at out plant in Mansfield, TX. Get in writing where the arms and carriages and all welded assemblies are made!

13) You can call here and talk to real people in the service dept not just the sales dept.

This should give you some things to consider.

Worth is the number one US manufacture of lifts
When you compare these features, there is no good reason to buy another brand of lift.

Get them to send ya pics of of their facility....I live less then a mile from there. Thats all I'll say. Pictures are worth 1000 words.

 

[motofool33]

I didn't see any pricing on the Worth site. Did you get any prices?

i updated the original post with pricing 3090$(plus tax) delivered to houston, with truck adaptors included. pickup at shipping depot, Steve (worth) called a installer and got price 500$ to pickup and install at my facility

 

[Diesel Dan]

Get them to send ya pics of of their facility....I live less then a mile from there. Thats all I'll say. Pictures are worth 1000 words.

I've worked in 60+year old shops that were dark and dingy but turned out grade A parts at teir1 levels for OEMs.

 

[motofool33]

I've worked in 60+year old shops that were dark and dingy but turned out grade A parts at teir1 levels for OEMs.

i can tell from the design standpoint, that they are into the simple easy cuts and are not using the latest technology, but i can see the weld quality on the pics they sent me has good penetration and solid construction. and if it keeps americans working versus robotic welders in china im still for it.

 

[CPH628]

I got my Mohawk for 3k installed. It came out of a caddy dealer that closed. I got lucky. As the Mohawk dealer told me used Mohawk lifts are like a Shelby Cobra, rare and expensive. Mine was 10yrs old, and he had all the records of maintenance since he installed and did the regular maintenance. He also gave me a 1yr warranty on everything. Installation is a science. Be careful. I would check with a Mohawk dealer, you would not regret a used Mohawk. I don't!

cph

 

[tdkkart]

I just put in a Bendpak XPR10A. Its my first lift. I was considering the Danmar but the sales guy at Best Buy Auto talked me into the Bendpak. Couldn't be happier!

How many people does it take to install a lift??

I count 10 including the guy behind the camera.

 

[CobraJake]

I just put in a Bendpak XPR10A. Its my first lift. I was considering the Danmar but the sales guy at Best Buy Auto talked me into the Bendpak. Couldn't be happier!

How many people does it take to install a lift??

I count 10 including the guy behind the camera.

3 to work and 7 to watch with the free beer provided!

 

[CobraJake]

I own a few bendpaks, great customer service. Product quality is nothing to write home about in my opinion. They are great lifts don't get me wrong, but it left me thinking perhaps I should have gotten rotaries. Those will be my next purchase for lifts more than likely

as in? My buddy has an older Rotary in his house, he helped me install mine and we both agreed neither one (His Rotary vs my Bendpak) is better than the other.

 

[Grizzlyman]

I did a lot of research and talked to people in the business before selecting my lift. I wanted American made and a certified lift with a good track record. I went with a 12K Rotary Lift asymmetrical. I really like my lift!

 

[motofool33]

nice second gen, there.

Did you receive any paperwork that says your lift is american made? be cause from my research rotary is not american made, only assembled.

My friends have them in their shop and have zero issues with roatary, and i have a line on a 1 year old 10k rotary lift ata discount also.

 

[Grizzlyman]

nice second gen, there.

Did you receive any paperwork that says your lift is american made? be cause from my research rotary is not american made, only assembled.

My friends have them in their shop and have zero issues with roatary, and i have a line on a 1 year old 10k rotary lift ata discount also.

Thanks it is a pretty solid 2nd gen. Yes the lift is manufactured in the US.