Well, what does the badge on the front say? Looks like the same box. What all is in it, purchase price? It's always interesting digging though an old box. Never know what you may find.
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Well, what does the badge on the front say? Looks like the same box. What all is in it, purchase price? It's always interesting digging though an old box. Never know what you may find.
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drivesitfar
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box was $150 and badge was removed and lock broken. Hammer was $3. so did i do ok on the hammer?
I guess, if you needed a hammer. If it is what I think it is, they are a very nice hammer. Look at the bottom plate and see what yours is stamped. Compare to mine above.
Lets see what is all in the box. What emblem is on the front cover?
drivesitfar
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no badge, but if isn't the same box as Outlaw's i'll be surprised. O's is a lot cleaner and his has the cool aluminum tray. his probably has the key along with the Crafstman logo still in tact.
as mentioned before i didn't know i "needed" this box until it was posted on this thread.
now i need a 3 or 4 foot handle with a chain for all those tough jobs or maybe just a good one to have next to the door instead of a 12 gauge.
sorry Z the little hammer is sitting next to a pile of nice old vises ready to be restored, but i don't remember it having a shiny end like yours.
as mentioned before i didn't know i "needed" this box until it was posted on this thread.
now i need a 3 or 4 foot handle with a chain for all those tough jobs or maybe just a good one to have next to the door instead of a 12 gauge.
sorry Z the little hammer is sitting next to a pile of nice old vises ready to be restored, but i don't remember it having a shiny end like yours.
PghJKB
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Drivesitfar
Usually big items belong to the first person to lay hands on it, grab the tag and tell an attendant, so you can keep shopping. When I went to the attendant he said take the tag to the check out desk, pay for it and he would remove the vise. When I got back from checkout he was nowhere to be found and another buyer was trying to remove the vise!
Around here figure on being at least an hour early if you want to be in the first 10 in, add another 15 minutes for each paragraph of the sale's description. I figured with the hype I better get there 1:45 early. I did and within 10 minutes of me getting there, there were three vintage clothing ladies and another 7 tool guys in line (including the guy trying to remove the vise after I had paid for it). Thank god I didn't make a wrong turn.
Regulars refer to those tool guys as the "Super 30 Crew", I have seen two of them go up to a table, put their arms around it and declare they are buying everything on the table. They will literally scoop everything they can into a canvas bag, then go somewhere and sort the stuff out that they want.
This is serious business around here.
JKB
Usually big items belong to the first person to lay hands on it, grab the tag and tell an attendant, so you can keep shopping. When I went to the attendant he said take the tag to the check out desk, pay for it and he would remove the vise. When I got back from checkout he was nowhere to be found and another buyer was trying to remove the vise!
Around here figure on being at least an hour early if you want to be in the first 10 in, add another 15 minutes for each paragraph of the sale's description. I figured with the hype I better get there 1:45 early. I did and within 10 minutes of me getting there, there were three vintage clothing ladies and another 7 tool guys in line (including the guy trying to remove the vise after I had paid for it). Thank god I didn't make a wrong turn.
Regulars refer to those tool guys as the "Super 30 Crew", I have seen two of them go up to a table, put their arms around it and declare they are buying everything on the table. They will literally scoop everything they can into a canvas bag, then go somewhere and sort the stuff out that they want.
This is serious business around here.
JKB
A good trick to use is to have some stickers in your pocket with SOLD / Name written on them. Then put them on the vise and go pay. Here if you scoop, you buy it! I've seen guys get caught sorting and taking stuff out of their bag and the gal said "Oh No, you're buying all those or you're leaving".
Outlaw: by the way thanks for describing what that little pipe wrench does because I've been using a crescent wrench for those tanks for 50 years.
i'm going to derust in put in my main box.
Don't use that one for the prop Tank nuts; find one with the smooth hex jaws. for that.
Here are a few highlights from my day.
Adjustable width flat blade screw driver
The adjustable blade screwdriver is an electricians tool, it's intended to wedge the tip in a slotted brass screw so you can reach into a terminal box and start or remove the screw. They aren't built for big torque, so you need to tighten or crack loose with a normal driver.
So what looks like a badge on the drop front cover is just a shinny spot? I thought maybe you were doing a retaliatory tease!
BTW my tray is not aluminum; somebody painted parts of it with silver paint. The unpainted parts are the same blue wrinkle.
I think whoever made my box for Sears/Craftsman also made yours. What color is it? Dark nearly navy blue, or is it brown? Craftsman had them painted a dark blue, and at that time and there was a three drawer version, as well as a roller for them. they also had some "high end" tools with brass/gold and Blue handles or details that I think I've seen one set of on Eprey. Sort of the white whale of Craftsman hand tools...
This was the "blue" era for Craftsman/Sears and the catalog had quite a bit of blue ink in an otherwise black and white catalog...
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madison069
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If you are in Pittsburgh, i know what you mean. I probably meet the super 30 crew. which is why i don't really got to Estate Sales that's really detailed . Plus, Western PA Estate company seems to charge really high!
drivesitfar
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Outlaw: i'll clean up the little tool box and get better pictures which was my plan, but you and Z were having fun so i thought i'd post a picture and let you and the gang guess what it is.
it is blue under all the black dust. the handles on the front and side are the age and quality i like and if you hadn't noticed i like old tool boxes almost as much as big old vises.
i'm not positive it is exactly like yours and i'll let you and Z and others decide when i get better pictures this week. i do know with the way it looks and with that little yellow cart that it won't leave my hands anytime soon after i clean it up.
thanks for clarifying the difference between the smooth jaw and the pipe jaws i have on that little wrench and i went to our favorite auction site to see the difference. now another tool i didn't know i "needed" that is on the list.
PGH and Rickster: thanks for the knowledge on Estate sales. I already had a little idea on how things were and thanks for sharing.
it is blue under all the black dust. the handles on the front and side are the age and quality i like and if you hadn't noticed i like old tool boxes almost as much as big old vises.
i'm not positive it is exactly like yours and i'll let you and Z and others decide when i get better pictures this week. i do know with the way it looks and with that little yellow cart that it won't leave my hands anytime soon after i clean it up.
thanks for clarifying the difference between the smooth jaw and the pipe jaws i have on that little wrench and i went to our favorite auction site to see the difference. now another tool i didn't know i "needed" that is on the list.
PGH and Rickster: thanks for the knowledge on Estate sales. I already had a little idea on how things were and thanks for sharing.
jeffmoss26
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Great finds guys!!
rickhigginshtbr
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Outlaw, have any info from that era (underline C) of sockets being painted red/blue?
rickhigginshtbr
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Sorry no, but that doesn't mean the owner's didn't apply paint to mark them, I certainly did...
That's what I was thinking, but wasn't sure if they had a limited run at one point... ran across one a few weeks ago, but it came off in the evaporust. Now I don't feel as bad
ShadowRuleZ
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Outlaw, you got any earlier catalog scans? 32-34 socket sets/cases?
Unfortunately Shadow, '42 is the earliest hand tools catalog I have. the power tools catalogs sometimes have vises and boxes; rarely other hand tools...
ZK you asked about the bottom of the Blue box: her is it in all it's glory and with all it's defects: minimal rust, but some. and the stenciled name. at first I was like
why on the bottom. Then after thinking about it, who would look there? So if it was taken, it's an easy "see it's Mine!" proof...
And something that followed me home for free: Missing the (foot) pump hose (Thank god a std, Coleman air mattress battery pump worked perfectly!), and the paddles/oars, but seems to be in good shape! Thinking I'l try to do some fishing this year!
ZK you asked about the bottom of the Blue box: her is it in all it's glory and with all it's defects: minimal rust, but some. and the stenciled name. at first I was like
why on the bottom. Then after thinking about it, who would look there? So if it was taken, it's an easy "see it's Mine!" proof...And something that followed me home for free: Missing the (foot) pump hose (Thank god a std, Coleman air mattress battery pump worked perfectly!), and the paddles/oars, but seems to be in good shape! Thinking I'l try to do some fishing this year!
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I am no expert, but I have seen many long C sockets painted blue but not red. FWIW
John
gearheadglen
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Hit some sales yesterday
Picked up the large vintage Lincoln 5 ton jack stands $20 for the pair
Second pic is two whitney punches and a vintage snapon slide hammer $25 for the trio
After I paid the seller asked me what the punches were used for.
I have been looking for good used jack stands for a long time so I was pretty excited
Picked up the large vintage Lincoln 5 ton jack stands $20 for the pair
Second pic is two whitney punches and a vintage snapon slide hammer $25 for the trio
After I paid the seller asked me what the punches were used for.
I have been looking for good used jack stands for a long time so I was pretty excited
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3/8" on the ratcheting one
7/32"on the lever one
It was the end of the sale and he also had the whitney jr set for $5 but I was out of money and it was far from my house
7th Kahuna
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I have been looking for some simple storage solutions for a while now. Didn't want to put too much time or money into it as my space is small and only temporary. (Yes I know I have been saying that for a couple years now. ) A month ago I finally just picked up a 1990's Craftsman 3 Drawer tool box. It was missing about 20% of it's paint and the drawers had been forced around enough that the lock wasn't working but it was rust free and the drawers were an easy fix. For $10 I didn't see how I could go wrong.
That box would certainly do the job for now but then two weeks ago I happened to hit a garage sale between rain clouds and this dropped into my lap:
As precarious as that stack looks, the three pieces were bolted together. I told the seller I was only interested in the top box and he said he wanted to sell them together. He then started trying to explain how the bottom cart was a name brand item. I thanked him but said I had only been thinking $25 and really had no use for the other two pieces. Ultimately he agreed to $25 and offered a $10 discount if I would take the other two pieces with me. I agreed. I did leave without the missing drawer, but he thinks he has it and will call me when it turns up. When I got it home, I discovered the Lyon label on the side. Now I really need a media blaster. Storage issues solved. Space issues in doubt.
Then today, another garage sale / Craigslist find. I seem to remember a post on this board saying these were possibly the best top boxes Sears had sold in recent years. It is model 65282. I've been looking for a box like RedLeader's but haven't seen one at any price.
The exterior condition is a little rough with some minor denting on one side but the interior is good. I can't believe how heavy this sucker is. The date code is '0 70' which I would imagine is October 1970 but I have no idea. This box has the old style handle:
Just off the top of my head, I guessed it was worth $75 and they were asking $40. It came with a key and some misc tools inside. The tools were junk with the exception of a couple sockets and this one:
HEYCO W. Germany As best I can tell this probably came out of a vintage BMW motorcycle toolkit. So maybe I came home with 10 or 15 dollars in tools.
Now where am I going to put it?
) A month ago I finally just picked up a 1990's Craftsman 3 Drawer tool box. It was missing about 20% of it's paint and the drawers had been forced around enough that the lock wasn't working but it was rust free and the drawers were an easy fix. For $10 I didn't see how I could go wrong.That box would certainly do the job for now but then two weeks ago I happened to hit a garage sale between rain clouds and this dropped into my lap:
As precarious as that stack looks, the three pieces were bolted together. I told the seller I was only interested in the top box and he said he wanted to sell them together. He then started trying to explain how the bottom cart was a name brand item. I thanked him but said I had only been thinking $25 and really had no use for the other two pieces. Ultimately he agreed to $25 and offered a $10 discount if I would take the other two pieces with me. I agreed. I did leave without the missing drawer, but he thinks he has it and will call me when it turns up. When I got it home, I discovered the Lyon label on the side. Now I really need a media blaster. Storage issues solved. Space issues in doubt.
Then today, another garage sale / Craigslist find. I seem to remember a post on this board saying these were possibly the best top boxes Sears had sold in recent years. It is model 65282. I've been looking for a box like RedLeader's but haven't seen one at any price.
The exterior condition is a little rough with some minor denting on one side but the interior is good. I can't believe how heavy this sucker is. The date code is '0 70' which I would imagine is October 1970 but I have no idea. This box has the old style handle:
Just off the top of my head, I guessed it was worth $75 and they were asking $40. It came with a key and some misc tools inside. The tools were junk with the exception of a couple sockets and this one:
HEYCO W. Germany As best I can tell this probably came out of a vintage BMW motorcycle toolkit. So maybe I came home with 10 or 15 dollars in tools.
Now where am I going to put it?
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7th, that top IS one of their best efforts, but not recent. I bought that thing's twin brand new in the early 70's, and it was not a new design then.
Great score on both counts! I have 5 of that 18 drawer cabinet style, in several different brands. Worth every penny you spent and then some!
Great score on both counts! I have 5 of that 18 drawer cabinet style, in several different brands. Worth every penny you spent and then some!
gearheadglen
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That's when you ask if he can throw in something extra!
Wow, $5 on a Jr. great deal if the punches are there or mostly there...
My six year old daughter was with me and the seller gave her some freebies so I didnt have the heart to ask. She did good there was a lot of boxes and we were pressed for time
She found some snapon and vintage craftsman stuff
Funny thing another customer was there with his teenage son who just kept complaining how he wanted to leave. Made me twice as proud of my little helper.
The seller knew nothing about tools. He was into antique flipping and the tools he was selling for someone else. I witnessed another buyer hiding sockets and haggling the seller because the sets were missing some sockets. You see some crazy things at these sales
I will post pics of the rest of our finds once I get time to load some pics.
7th Kahuna
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Yeah, I only said 'recent' for fear that someone might add that it didn't in any way compare to the earlier boxes (ie 1950's). I am no expert.
I figured late 60's or early 70's when I saw it there, found the date code when I got it home. What do you think about that date, '0 70'? I know you have looked at a lot more of these than I have. Based on the handle it seems it would be pre '72 so 1970 makes sense but is the '0' January, October, or December 1969 for a 1970 Delivery?
gearheadglen
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That box is nice...how much does it weigh
Looks well built
Looks well built
7th Kahuna
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According to the 1968 catalog, the shipping weight was 77 pounds. The box must be 70 pounds plus w/o tools.
$8 for a 520 is a usuck price, even with the over spray!
Get some SG soaked Paper towels on that and I bet some work with a scrub brush will remove the over spray. You can cover the paper towel with saran wrap to keep it from drying out... just don't leave it forever, you want to remove the over spray, not the wrinkle paint...
Get some SG soaked Paper towels on that and I bet some work with a scrub brush will remove the over spray. You can cover the paper towel with saran wrap to keep it from drying out... just don't leave it forever, you want to remove the over spray, not the wrinkle paint...
7th Kahuna
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Nice price! I have a question for you Kennedy guys though. I had a chance to buy a couple Kennedy boxes a couple years ago. Actually he probably would have given them to me, but I didn't know that at the time. That was my first exposure to Kennedy. I have since learned they are the standard for serious machinists. I tried the drawers in both boxes that day and found them difficult to open and close, a fact only made worse by the small plastic handles. Were they just in serious need of some grease? Given what I know now they must be good quality but i never would have guessed it that day. Consequently I have steered away from them ever since.
ZK you asked about the bottom of the Blue box: her is it in all it's glory and with all it's defects: minimal rust, but some. and the stenciled name. at first I was like
Man that thing looks to be in great condition.
That was a pretty good idea on the name location. One box I got, upon cleaning a guy had a spray paint stencil on the bottom of every drawer and the back inside of the cabinet. Damn, must have been a tough shop. 
I get that question quite often, maybe because they think I look so young. But I always find it to be a odd question. Not sure if they are trying to actually learn something or just testing your knwoledge.
Good stuff. You might want to thoroughly check over the jack stands before you put your life in their hands.
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They are pretty smooth eventhough they are not ball bearing slide. The only time they are a little tough to open is when I overload them with metal tools. I love Kennedy tool box.
What does SG stand for? Yeah I want to remove the over spray. I will also buy a key for it. For $8, I can't complain.
Craptain
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SG = Simple Green
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