Need help finding bearings for a delta 14" bandsaw model 880

[stitan06]

im restoring a delta model 880 or 890 14" bandsaw and i cant find the main drive shaft bearings anywhere they are from new departure who went outta business 20 yrs ago. im looking for a cross reference for the bearings the number is 88101. i have been in contact with accurate bearing and they have been working on it and cant find a match but something close. So im looking for anyone that knows about these saws of has replaced the bearings to help me

 

[zkling]

It's been a while since I've replaced them, but did you see this?

http://wiki.vintagemachinery.org/ReplacementBearingList.ashx#BE_Bandsaw_MetalWood_Cutting_13

If you get a security pop up just click cancel. Who did you talk to at accurate?

 

[stitan06]

lynn i think thats how you spell it she been working on it all week with nothing

 

[stitan06]

i didnt see that im not sure those arent the new departure number i have the one bearing but i will check into it thanks. from what lynn told me the hard part is these bearings have an extended race and she cant find ones that are long enough

 

[larry_g]

What are the specs on this bearing, id - od - width. Standard bearing stuff. Then what makes this extended race special? Would fitting a new shaft be possible that eliminates the need for special bearings?

lg
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[stitan06]

What are the specs on this bearing, id - od - width. Standard bearing stuff. Then what makes this extended race special? Would fitting a new shaft be possible that eliminates the need for special bearings?

lg
no neat sig line

OD- 1.85 " ID- .74 " W - .59" for the bearing itself and with the extended race its .88

for the race i think its just for space thats it and for the new shaft i dont think so and i wanna keep as much orig as i can i think the saw is from the 30's

 

[Norcal]

Go to www.owwm.org and register there, the folks there are very helpful. Registering and logging in opens up other forums there too.

 

[larry_g]

With those numbers are you sure that it is not a 47x19 mm bearing?

lg
no neat sig line

 

[brownbagg]

get them at sears parts,

 

[astroracer]

Like Larry said, they're probably metric. Convert your inch numbers to metric and look again. These bandsaws are all Tiawanese so metric is my guess. I rebuilt my old Tiawanese saw back in '95 and had no issue finding metric bearings of the right size.
Mark

 

[Kevin54]

http://lutco.com/Products/Radial-Bearing/Radial-Extended-Inner-Race-Bearing/

http://www.grainger.com/search?sear...aring&ef_id=UsVlkgAAAcks1x39:20140328111156:s

http://www.nationalprecision.com/spherical-plain-bearings/metric/extended_race_sealed.php

http://lappoebearings.com/extended-inner-race-spherical-plain-bearings/

https://nordex.com/cc1549

http://metricballbearing.com/

http://metricballbearing.com/pdf/A037 Extended Inner Race Unflanged Ball Bearing.pdf

http://www.bearingsupply.com/

http://www.indemedical.com/516-x-906-Extended-Race-Bearing_p_824.html


My work here is done

 

[Norcal]

Like Larry said, they're probably metric. Convert your inch numbers to metric and look again. These bandsaws are all Tiawanese so metric is my guess. I rebuilt my old Tiawanese saw back in '95 and had no issue finding metric bearings of the right size.
Mark

The folks in Taiwan copied those saws to make their cheap knockoff's, if they were from Taiwan or of ChiCom origin, I would not bother to replace the bearings just send it to the scrapyard, but the old Deltas were American iron & worth fixing.

 

[brownbagg]

your statement doesn't really make since, scrap a saw for a three dollar part

 

[Stevedore]

Delta's literature shows bearing part #920-08-020-5338 for the lower arbor bearings for both the 880 & 890 saws.

Here's an Ebay listing for a pair. (Seller's picture shows 1 bearing, but the listing says a pair) Specifically mentions the extended race.

Delta bearings

A google search shows other availability; prices vary.

I restored & use one of those old saws, mine is from 1946. Good luck with yours!

 

[JakeKohl]

With those numbers are you sure that it is not a 47x19 mm bearing?

lg
no neat sig line

Would a saw from the 1930's have metric components?

 

[benjamintmiller]

Would a saw from the 1930's have metric components?

Yes, most likely. Most of the major advances in bearing design occurred in Europe, so they are one of the few mechanical devices almost entirely in metric since day one.

SAE bearings are the exception, not the rule, even with old equipment like this.

It should be noted that you can find some really weird bearings on old woodworking machinery. A bandsaw of mine had a bearing with a metric OD and thickness, but a SAE ID.

 

[larry_g]

Yes, most likely. Most of the major advances in bearing design occurred in Europe, so they are one of the few mechanical devices almost entirely in metric since day one.

SAE bearings are the exception, not the rule, even with old equipment like this.

It should be noted that you can find some really weird bearings on old woodworking machinery. A bandsaw of mine had a bearing with a metric OD and thickness, but a SAE ID.

I concur with Ben on this.

lg
no neat sig line

 

[Bob Hall]

Delta 890 bandsaws had a special bearing on the lower shaft that I beleive is not available from any supplier. Over on OWWM.ORG there is a member who buys bearings and modifies them for this application. I bought a set from him last year. He also does that same service for early Delta 14" drill presses. Go and join up. Then search for Delta 890 bearings or PM me. My handle there is the same as here, only without the space: BOBHALL. That is an excellent bandsaw and completely restorable, if you have that right resources.

 

[stitan06]

thanks guys my saw was made in the good old USA

 

[stitan06]

Delta 890 bandsaws had a special bearing on the lower shaft that I beleive is not available from any supplier. Over on OWWM.ORG there is a member who buys bearings and modifies them for this application. I bought a set from him last year. He also does that same service for early Delta 14" drill presses. Go and join up. Then search for Delta 890 bearings or PM me. My handle there is the same as here, only without the space: BOBHALL. That is an excellent bandsaw and completely restorable, if you have that right resources.

thanks bob i joined just waiting for the mod to accept me ill pm you once im a member i have most of the parts the only thing im missing is the lower blade guide but it will work for now till i find that

 

[rlitman]

The folks in Taiwan copied those saws to make their cheap knockoff's, if they were from Taiwan or of ChiCom origin, I would not bother to replace the bearings just send it to the scrapyard, but the old Deltas were American iron & worth fixing.

Agreed, but when I replaced the bearings in my Delta's blade guides, I found out that they were metric. The saw was at least 50 years old.