The VISES of Garage Journal

[ffast65]

Need some parts for my columbian 506 with Tee jaws. Anyone have an extra spindle nut, collar or brass washer?

I have the 506-2 later spindle, spindle nut, and collar to trade/sell

 

[thundermug]

Just got this for a reasonable price. Not sure how big it is, but it was described as a jewelers vise. These are the seller's photos:

https://scontent-b-ord.**.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/t1.0-9/10014650_684356891962_2066546727_n.jpg

https://scontent-a-ord.**.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/t1.0-9/1977071_684356881982_53772711_n.jpg

https://scontent-b-ord.**.fbcdn.net/hphotos-frc1/t1.0-9/1601252_684356911922_1097056182_n.jpg

 

[Fretters]

Interesting vise you have there Fretters. How far are you going to dress it up?

Cheers. It's taken about three years of patient watching to finally get hold of one though. Knew I'd drop on one one day.

Just a quick scrub and repaint. Gone with that Wine Red which I used on the Swindens vice. Was in two minds as to whether to paint it or not, but decided to eventually. I've given that hacksaw damage on the jaws a quick stroke with the file just to take the roughness off it, and then it'll just need some new screws for the jaw inserts to finish it off. The inserts, U bolts and other screws are in the basket in the electrolysis vat at the moment. They're the only bits which have gone in there from it though. There was only a gnat's of surface rust in the odd little spots on the main parts of it, so nowt worthy of needing derusting.

 

[Fretters]

Just got this for a reasonable price. Not sure how big it is, but it was described as a jewelers vise.

Another cute vice. That looks pretty. Unless those fabric dots are huge, I'm guessing that really is going to be one minute vice. Extra cutesy factor if so.

 

[thundermug]

Fretters - Yeah, I was going to wait and post my own images. I'm not that patient.

 

[Mark in Indiana]

Using the Record No. 1 as a general indicator of size for this Parkinson, I was way off. Both 3" jaws, but quite a difference in overall size.

The internal view of the base section. No adjustment for side slop, btw.

What I thought would be studs aren't. They're U bolt type fittings for holding the two sections together.

Finally managed to find out what the original Parkinson colour was like too. Actually somewhat lighter than I expected. There's a good portion of original paint on the slide which has been well protected.

Hey Fretters, Thanks for showing the details of the vises in your part of the world.

 

[Fretters]

You're welcome.

Fretters - Yeah, I was going to wait and post my own images. I'm not that patient.

Let us know how big it is once you get it. I'm quite curious about that one.

 

[bubinga2]

Very cool vise. In the old days, young machinist had to make something to show their abilities. I have a cool miniature hammer from my great great grandfather or uncle (I wrote it down but forget now). You should ask the previous owner how he came about it. Looks well made and one of a kind.

This vise was posted from a CL ad on the board about 3-4 weeks ago. I was like everyone at the time, it to expensive. He reposted it at about 1/2 of original price and I had to have it. The usual quest is the largest vise you can find or dream of. I think this one may the smallest vise with conventional parts that you will ever see. The vise jaws are 5/8" wide, opens 5/8",
length 2", height 1 1/16" base 7/8" and are you ready 2.53 OZ

 

[Craptain]

Here are a couple of pics of a friends vise. He is a jeweler and this vise is just one of the vises he uses. Not apparent from the picture but behind the "Anvil" is in fact a hardy that slides right out. I have never seen a horizontal hardy (if that is what it is called) before. Also in last picture is a tiny anvil that he uses more than the vise.

 

[Fretters]

So that bick at the rear is actually a hardy? That's definitely an unusual vice. Quite appealing. It has that basic but rugged look about it. Looks like that anvil portion, due to the design, could actually be used as an anvil too. Any idea of the manufacturer?

 

[jakemac]

No, a hardy is used for cutting, not shaping. The piece sticking out of the back of the vise could be called a horn, or a bick.

 

[Fretters]

No, a hardy is used for cutting, not shaping. The piece sticking out of the back of the vise could be called a horn, or a bick.

If I recall correctly, the hardy hole can be used for anything from swaging to cutting tools?

 

[C.BRAXMAIER]

Just picked up these yorks, they are all York 150's 6'' the red one I just finished the middle one is going to a member here and the other one I have not decided on yet...

 

[jakemac]

If I recall correctly, the hardy hole can be used for anything from swaging to cutting tools?

True, but a swage is used for shaping, not cutting. I was commenting on the use of the term "hardy" as being used incorrectly to describe the bick (horn) at the back of the vise.

The hardy hole and the pritchet hole on an anvil can be used for a variety of tools. Hardy's, Swages, Fullers, Bicks, etc. I've even used them for hold-down dogs.

 

[zkling]

This vise was posted from a CL ad on the board about 3-4 weeks ago. I was like everyone at the time, it to expensive. He reposted it at about 1/2 of original price and I had to have it. The usual quest is the largest vise you can find or dream of. I think this one may the smallest vise with conventional parts that you will ever see. The vise jaws are 5/8" wide, opens 5/8",
length 2", height 1 1/16" base 7/8" and are you ready 2.53 OZ

Wow, more details please. Do you think it was a manufactured item or a one off shop project? Are there any markings?

Her are some before and after pictures of my Prentiss with the brass badge. Someone also asked what was under the badge. I couldn't get it loose to remove but when I had it apart I found a 1/2 inch hole in the body of vise right in the center of the badge.

That looks awesome.

Just got this for a reasonable price. Not sure how big it is, but it was described as a jewelers vise. These are the seller's photos:

Looks like a little H&B, ~1.5" wide jaws. It may have been a clamp on and the clamp is broken off? Please post some pics when you get it, I'm interested in the lettering on the front of the dynamic jaw. I have one that looks very similar but has the full clamp.

 

[Outlawmws]

Just got this for a reasonable price. Not sure how big it is, but it was described as a jewelers vise. These are the seller's photos:

https://scontent-b-ord.**.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/t1.0-9/10014650_684356891962_2066546727_n.jpg

https://scontent-a-ord.**.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/t1.0-9/1977071_684356881982_53772711_n.jpg

https://scontent-b-ord.**.fbcdn.net/hphotos-frc1/t1.0-9/1601252_684356911922_1097056182_n.jpg

SNIP
Looks like a little H&B, ~1.5" wide jaws. It may have been a clamp on and the clamp is broken off? Please post some pics when you get it, I'm interested in the lettering on the front of the dynamic jaw. I have one that looks very similar but has the full clamp.

Possibly an H&B, definitely another Colton Pat vise! Nice!

George A. Colton patent holder, No. 320,224. Patented June 16, 1885. H&B, Inmarks and unmarked examples exist.

 

[GETRIDAONE]

bubinga2 & zkling
The little vise was made by a tool & die maker at Reed & Barton silverware mfg in Mass. I got it from his grandson and he said his grandfather worked there from the late 20's to early 50's. The grandson's father took over his father's job and worked there into the late 80's.

 

[joe.striper]

This vise was posted from a CL ad on the board about 3-4 weeks ago. I was like everyone at the time, it to expensive. He reposted it at about 1/2 of original price and I had to have it. The usual quest is the largest vise you can find or dream of. I think this one may the smallest vise with conventional parts that you will ever see. The vise jaws are 5/8" wide, opens 5/8",
length 2", height 1 1/16" base 7/8" and are you ready 2.53 OZ

Ooooh, I am so pi**ed. I was the one to post that ad here, I was watching for it, assuming it would go down in price and then I had to go on the road for work for two weeks and obviously missed it!!! Arrrghh!!!! Oh, well I'm glad someone here picked it up. It is the cutest little vise I've ever seen. Didn't the seller say his dad or grandad worked at a vise company?

 

[Fretters]

True, but a swage is used for shaping, not cutting. I was commenting on the use of the term "hardy" as being used incorrectly to describe the bick (horn) at the back of the vise.

The hardy hole and the pritchet hole on an anvil can be used for a variety of tools. Hardy's, Swages, Fullers, Bicks, etc. I've even used them for hold-down dogs.

Right, I'm following you now. Just one of those generic term type thinks like Hoover, I suppose. Incorrect as you say to refer to anything barring the actual hardy as a hardy, but it's easier than a full length description when describing something which locates in the hardy hole. Saying that, the use of the term Hoover to describe any vacuum cleaner irks me just as much.

 

[dimwittedmoose51]

Hi: I just found what appears to be an old Simplex #100 Desmond Stephan vise at an estate sale. I see more ink on the 400 and 500, but does anyone know much about the 100? It's a small homeowner's type vise(3" wide and 3.5" opening, weighs about 12#), really well made, no cracks and has been cared for, as I pulled it out of the old workbench with my bare hands, since it was rather half-a$$edly nailed to the bench. As time allows, I'll get a photo up of my old Dodge quick release vise I got last summer.......thanks


DM&FS

 

[Craptain]

No, a hardy is used for cutting, not shaping. The piece sticking out of the back of the vise could be called a horn, or a bick.

Thanks. I consider it a good day if I learn something new. And I just did.

 

[bubinga2]

bubinga2 & zkling
The little vise was made by a tool & die maker at Reed & Barton silverware mfg in Mass. I got it from his grandson and he said his grandfather worked there from the late 20's to early 50's. The grandson's father took over his father's job and worked there into the late 80's.

Nice... My guess is that the grandfather made it early in his career, dating the vise to the late 20's.

Joe, He said Reed & Barton, not Reed Mfg. See http://www.reedandbarton.com/

 

[joe.striper]

Nice... My guess is that the grandfather made it early in his career, dating the vise to the late 20's.

Joe, He said Reed & Barton, not Reed Mfg. See http://www.reedandbarton.com/

Aah now i understand. Sorry i missed that message, I'm just catching up on the board. bubinga you did a great job on that vise. Soooo jealous.

 

[dcarden]

Posting a vise I recently picked up. It is a Oswego Sawyer Tool 24B. Going to do a full restoration on it soon.

 

[va.grouseman]

Nice Boley on E-bay.



http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-Min...950?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item338cd192d6

And how about this Versa-Vise. Wow.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-Wil...183?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item338c67680f

 

[Jan-Sietze]

OMG, a Paramo No6 for sale...
50 euro (68 Dollar).

What shall I do ???
(Even though that question may be redundant...)

http://link.marktplaats.nl/m784397783

 

[drivesitfar]

Jan: have a quick talk with the other Paramo vises and see if they are ok with having a big brother and then buy it. by the way that is a nice little group you have there.

Sorry i forgot all our vises are female except Cuda and the other gal's vises. so ask your gals if they want another big sister. cheers

 

[Fretters]

OMG, a Paramo No6 for sale...
50 euro (68 Dollar).

What shall I do ???
(Even though that question may be redundant...)

I'll bet that's practically in your workshop already.

 

[Filson]

While being in the middle of unloading the moving trucks into our new place, I managed to sneak away to pick up a new Reed. While it doesn't exactly belong in this thread, it kinda does. Thought you guys would enjoy. 30x30.

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[jakemac]

Nice !

 

[Craptain]

OMG, a Paramo No6 for sale...
50 euro (68 Dollar).

What shall I do ???
(Even though that question may be redundant...)

http://link.marktplaats.nl/m784397783

I laughed when I read the comment on the ad. Translates as "No Chinese Junk"

Guess it is not just here in US that thinks that way.

 

[Mavawreck]

I was offered a emmert turtleback for $150.00. Jaw has been broken and brazed. What do you guys think? Assuming the repair was done well and it is otherwise complete. Thanks! This would be my first real vise.

 

[Filson]

I was offered a emmert turtleback for $150.00. Jaw has been broken and brazed. What do you guys think? Assuming the repair was done well and it is otherwise complete. Thanks! This would be my first real vise.

I'd pass in a heartbeat.

 

[Mavawreck]

I'd pass in a heartbeat.

Thanks! I appreciate the feedback.

 

[Filson]

Thanks! I appreciate the feedback.

Welcome.

While I'd love to see anyone bring home a new vise, I'd much rather see you bring a non-damaged one home (and for less money).

 

[Fretters]

While being in the middle of unloading the moving trucks into our new place, I managed to sneak away to pick up a new Reed.

Hell of an attention span deficit. Nice sign.

 

[Filson]

Hell of an attention span deficit. Nice sign.

It serves me well.

 

[PghJKB]

Another "Gem" on evilprey

Antique = 100+ years old.

Seller = -100 IQ

Love that original red paint...

http://www.ebay.com/itm/antique-Wil...751?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item27e16bacdf

JKB

 

[zkling]

bubinga2 & zkling
The little vise was made by a tool & die maker at Reed & Barton silverware mfg in Mass. I got it from his grandson and he said his grandfather worked there from the late 20's to early 50's. The grandson's father took over his father's job and worked there into the late 80's.

That's really cool and sad in a way, like selling a family heirloom. When you get a chance can you take a few up close pics of the main body opening for the slide and the underside joint between the slide and the dynamic jaw? I'm really curious as to how they made that. One piece? It almost looks like weld beads on the main body

Nice Boley on E-bay.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-Min...950?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item338cd192d6

That belongs to a member here, they also have a nice baby bullet for sale.

I was offered a emmert turtleback for $150.00. Jaw has been broken and brazed. What do you guys think? Assuming the repair was done well and it is otherwise complete. Thanks! This would be my first real vise.

That's a wood vise no? Do you need a wood vise? I would pass too. Drop the 0 and that would be more in my price range.

 

[drivesitfar]

I found a L. M. & V. Co. 6 inch and about 150 pound vise. it is missing the vise nut and i'm not quite sure how the screw attaches to the dynamic jaw. Anybody own one and care to share a few pictures of what the vise nut might look like and the way the screw attaches to the dynamic jaw.

except for a little pitting on the one side of the dynamic jaw the pieces I do have are in pretty good shape.

PM me if you have the vise nut i'm missing or check out my "Frankenvise" thread to add comments or suggestions.