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What would you have generator run?

gball

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We have a Genarac generator that branches off the main circuit panel and has 12 spaces for breakers. I am in the process of replacing the original Wadsworth main panel and redoing everything. The way the Gen. breaker box was set up it will run the fridge and other kitchen stuff, the furnace, the well pump (240), some other main room lights and outlets... it also ran the central air (240).

What would you rather have if power was out. AC, Hot Water, or more lights and plugs? i mean i can see if the power was out and it was 100 degrees out it would make a bad time even more miserable but i just think other stuff would be more important.

Thoughts?
 
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The Cobbler

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mandatory; fridges, freezer, sump pumps, water pump , furnace , power vented natgas water heater , some lighting and outlets in key areas of the house
then if enough power air conditioning, then electric stove.
depending on size of generator I would also have a few outlets at the transfer switch to run extension cords to say the washer and other "things" if needed
 

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My transfer panel covers the basics -
well pump
freezer / refrigerator
air handler on the gas furnace
misc. lights / outlets throughout the house

Hot water would be a necessity if it wasn't supplied by the water stove or the gas hot water heater

System worked well during the last ice storm.
 
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Our water heater is elec. I thought about running a circuit to the garage with just one receptacle. the garage is powered by a sub-panel, so it might be nice to have at least some power out there in a outage. and just for a visual, Here's the mess i am dealing with.

 

Stuart in MN

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I'd say hot water is more important than air conditioning. One thought is to get a window a/c unit to use if necessary, it will draw less power than the central unit and at least you could put it in the bedroom window for sleeping.
 

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Purchase and store away a single "burner" hotplate for cooking, and a flat electric griddle. I bought one at Wal-Mart on sale for $19. Its still in the box. Crock pots, rice cookers, etc also draw little current and could easily be used instead of a stove. I also have a butane single burner for cooking. It uses butane cylinders about the size of aerosol cans, found it and the fuel cylinders at an Asian Grocery, they all seem to keep them in stock.

Charles
 

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How big is your gen set?
I went through An extended power outage a year or so ago. Middle of summer and 95 deg. And humid
We dealt without air but having no water would ****.i am on a well.
I do not have a elect water heater though.
Elec water heater are a big draw.
I have a lot of separate circuits in my em panel and can turn on and off as need be.
You need to know your loads and figure accordingly.
 

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That is why I love my gas stove, gas water heater, gas dryer... so as long as I do not loose gas, I am set.
 

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This is so crazy. All you do is install an interlock so that you can legally backfeed your whole panel. No choosing what's more important, just flip the breakers on and off to prevent overloading the genset.

You said you were replacing your panel!! Cripes, I replaced my old zinsco panel with a new Siemens panel that had the interlock BUILT IN for a seamless deal.

Boggles my mind that people would go through all that effort of a gentrans panel when an interlock is so easy and cheap to add to your panel so that you can run any circuit.
 
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This is so crazy. All you do is install an interlock so that you can legally backfeed your whole panel. No choosing what's more important, just flip the breakers on and off to prevent overloading the genset.

You said you were replacing your panel!! Cripes, I replaced my old zinsco panel with a new Siemens panel that had the interlock BUILT IN for a seamless deal.

Boggles my mind that people would go through all that effort of a gentrans panel when an interlock is so easy and cheap to add to your panel so that you can run any circuit.

This would be the perfect solution and what I use as well.

I think the OP may have an automatic unit that powers on by itself and picks up the load of the house. If that's the case the interlock won't work. I am not sure what you would need in that case, but switching the entire house over to gen is the only way to go. I am not a fan of these small transfer panels. You end up limiting yourself and when the power goes out you will realize you forgot something that you would really like to have power for.
 

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This past summer the power went out for about 6 days in high 90's temps. When we finally get the new generator (gift from the late FiL when they upgraded to a standby unit) wired in properly the order will be freezer, frig, well, furnace, power vent on the hot water heater, AC, and TV/DVR. And we live in Michigan. Lights in individual rooms can be run on extensions cords or flashilghts.
 

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Bah, just walk around with candles.

Our first priority is the fridge/freezers. We have wood heat. So we are warm, cold beer, and a BBQ (with sideburner) for cooking. No need for A/C in my climate.

If it get's really long or we run low on genny fuel then we fire up the RV. In the RV we have hot water, showers, fridge, freezer, furnace, all on propane for days until I need to charge up the 12 volt battery which can be done with the automobiles.
 

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I prefer to have the whole panel on a transfer switch (or interlock switch in the panel) so I can run whatever I need to run, and switch off what I don't. Then I can decide later (as a future generator size may change the field) what I have on during an outage.
 

Stuart in MN

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Boggles my mind that people would go through all that effort of a gentrans panel when an interlock is so easy and cheap to add to your panel so that you can run any circuit.

My understanding is they aren't allowed in all areas, so it's best to check with local authorities first.
 

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Bah, just walk around with candles.

Our first priority is the fridge/freezers. We have wood heat. So we are warm, cold beer, and a BBQ (with sideburner) for cooking. No need for A/C in my climate.

If it get's really long or we run low on genny fuel then we fire up the RV. In the RV we have hot water, showers, fridge, freezer, furnace, all on propane for days until I need to charge up the 12 volt battery which can be done with the automobiles.

Sounds like me.

I've got a little 2000 watt Yamaha inverter generator. I don't actually need the thing, but I thought I might use it to power my main PC or most of the AV system to watch movies or play video games if utilities are cut off for a long period of time.

I can't really think of a reason to worry about heating or air conditioning. It would take one hell of a generator to run the units handling this building.

As for refrigeration, I don't really need it, but it's not a problem. My Engel 45 will keep things as cold as I want for as long as I want with very little power use.

Water? If the Tar River runs dry, I've got other problems to worry about.

I can heat water, but it's super-complicated. You've got to use this strange "fire" stuff. Terribly difficult. Of course, I can just use my ceramic filter if I'm feeling lazy.

Beyond sanitation, I can't really think of a reason to worry about hot water. Waste of fuel, if you ask me. You could be playing video games.

As for cooking, I use a fire pit on occasion. It's fun, and the food tastes wonderful. Of course, again, if I'm feeling lazy, I've got a Weber Genesis and three tanks of propane, as well as a MSR Pocket Rocket and tons of fuel.

I never really thought much about lights. I have a "Candle Lantern" and a bunch of spare candles. If you don't own one, you should. They are outstanding.

I suppose it would be cool to flip a switch and power the whole building, but I'd rather keep any fuel I've got for mobilization. All my tanks are always full, and the jerry cans are rotated regularly.

So, I suppose my answer to the original question would be a couple of outlets to run entertainment electronics.

That's the way I look at things.

That said, if you are deciding what to power during an emergency, focus on getting one specific area fully operational.

Abandon the rest of the house, and keep that room at operating temperature, with all your conveniences functional. If you want to use central climate control, you'll need a thermostat or temperature probe in the room. Pick a room that's more than one wall away from outside air at all sides, add extra insulation, and be sure you've got water access.

Having a big generator is pointless if you run out of fuel trying to keep an entire house comfortable and a bunch of **** you don't actually need running.

You need this stuff planned and set up in advance if it's to be worth a damn when you need it.
 

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bush - depends on the individual situation. I think it's cool when the power goes out, but I unfortunately need power. I'm on call 24/7/365. I can do everything from batteries, but for a period of time. In any time of rain, my sump pumps work HARD. With them off even for a short period the basement will flood.

No, I don't have an unlimited supply of fuel... but I have enough to last a full day and then some, and would immediately go refuel in case of emergency. Power outages happen at least yearly here and fuel availability has never been an issue. I know I'm not safe for all situations, but certainly most.
 

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My portable will run everything in my house except the electric stove, dishwasher, basement ductless split a/c & the basement receptacles. I opted for a few more convenience & luxury items than some people. If I had to do a bare minimum, I would go with heat, sump pump if needed, refrigerator, lighting, kitchen/toaster oven or microwave, then any extras.

Tommy
 
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