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r6_cannibal

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Got my sockets in and I am quite impressed. I ordered a metric set in 1/4, 3/8, and 1/2 inch drive in both standard and deep wall. Not until just yesterday did I really have a chance to get them dirty. I got the satin finished chrome and I'm very pleased with it. Has a very European feel, and the whole set is quality. The whole thing came on rails which kept the sockets in order and from clacking around too much in shipping.
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A comparison of 3/8" drive 13mm standard and deep sockets on the left, on the right are 1/4" drive 10mm standard and deep. Craftsman and TopTul. I went with Craftsman as a comparison as probably the majority of people on the board has used or at least seen Craftsman sockets.
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The most noticeable difference is in the height of the standard depth sockets. The chrome on the Craftsman sockets is a little dark and getting my paw prints all over them didn't help much either. I tried cleaning them off but i still had to position them. Next time I'll wear gloves :lol_hitti
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The finish on these sockets is just plain ****. They offer a good amount of grip too, I did a simple oil change yesterday and with my hands oily I still had enough grip on the socket to pull it off the ratchet. I'd never used sockets with the taper in the middle before, the "waist" also helped with grip when my fingers were slick. The engraving on the sides is nice and deep making the socket number easier to read.

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Something else that I noticed about these sockets were the driving wall of the TopTul sockets had notches to grip the driver further away from the edge. I'm curious to see how this holds up over time.

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The walls of the sockets are thinner when compared to the C-man sockets. I want to look up torque specks for these sockets to see when they reach their point of failure compared to the Craftsman. I did some Googling for the specs but could not find any on the TopTul sockets. On the other side of the coin, the thinner walls make accessibility easier to bolts with obstructions in close proximity to the head. I've had to run out and buy a thinner walled socket on a couple occasions due to this.

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A close and personal image of the engraving. Gives you a better idea of how deep the lettering is and a better feel for the finish. The pictures really don't do it justice, but I'm trying! :D

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Something that particularly stands out is how I came about to order this set. Mike distributes these tools through www.wrenhandtools.com and does a fine job of it. He's very good with communication and gives you a reassurance that's not commonly found in businesses anymore. I got a response back for a price inquiry on a Sunday night and has since been very up-front and honest. I don't mean to sound like a Toptul commercial, but I'm really looking forward to trying out more of their tools and I can't wait to do business with mike again, as soon as my wallet will allow it. :beer:
 
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Dude- those are ****:drool: R6_Cannibal, nice photo skills man! Can you give me some tips as to how you take these amazing product image shots? How do you get that amazingly perfect white background along with the perfect lighting. Help a brother out:bowdown::bounce: Seriously, I'm trying to set up a nicer home photo studio to take nice shots of all my tools:bounce:
 

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So by looking like that, it appears they're more or less equal to the craftsmans in regards to the depth of the hex part inside the socket, and about the same i.d. all the way up the socket?

I want a set of all 1/2" deepwell sae and metric toptul sockets, but want to be sure they aren't "necked down" like Sk sockets.
 

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My crafty are the same discolored like yours... My protos are still chrome and shiny.... I really like my top tul ratchets and the I have a complete set of bits, not inserts but 1/4-1/2 sockets with the bits in them, let me know if you want pictures of them and I will start another thread...
 

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I've been using a Toptul 3/8 drive shallow satin metric 6 point socket set at work for the last month or so without any problems. I regularly use them on an air ratchet and with hand ratchets. I originally got them to try out as an experiment. The quality seems to be there, more time and use will tell for sure. I also got a large satin wrench set that I'm liking alot. They're not US made but, they're not PRC made either. You can't beat Mike's service or prices for that matter.:thumbup:
 
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Thank you everyone for enjoying the review.

Nissan_Crawler: Tested the deep-well sockets and the walls seem true. Yoinked some bolts and tested the 10mm, 15mm, and 19mm all the way down the neck with no binding. Also, they are the same depth as the C-mans.

Merkava_4: :lol_hitti

Paumanok: It's similar to the stuff in the photography thread on this site but I diffuse my lights a little differently. I also use an editing program to help bring out the whites in the background. I'm using Gimp since I'm running a linux OS. Photoshop works better, or if you prefer free software you can download Gimp for windows free of charge. Send me a PM to remind me, and I'll give you a rundown of my setup and post-processing tomorrow. :beer:
 

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My crafty are the same discolored like yours... My protos are still chrome and shiny.... I really like my top tul ratchets and the I have a complete set of bits, not inserts but 1/4-1/2 sockets with the bits in them, let me know if you want pictures of them and I will start another thread...

Please do so!

Awesome review r6! The chrome on my Craftsman sockets are no where near as lustrous as the Toptul mirror chrome wrenches either.
 
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I've been using a Toptul 3/8 drive shallow satin metric 6 point socket set at work for the last month or so without any problems. I regularly use them on an air ratchet and with hand ratchets. I originally got them to try out as an experiment. The quality seems to be there, more time and use will tell for sure. I also got a large satin wrench set that I'm liking alot. They're not US made but, they're not PRC made either. You can't beat Mike's service or prices for that matter.:thumbup:

+1:beer: I got this set as an experiment as well to check out the quality.

What ratchet do you have? I've been wanting to try out either the 72tooth satin or the gearless in 3/8"

My crafty are the same discolored like yours... My protos are still chrome and shiny.... I really like my top tul ratchets and the I have a complete set of bits, not inserts but 1/4-1/2 sockets with the bits in them, let me know if you want pictures of them and I will start another thread...

That would be awesome!
 

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Thank you everyone for enjoying the review.

Nissan_Crawler: Tested the deep-well sockets and the walls seem true. Yoinked some bolts and tested the 10mm, 15mm, and 19mm all the way down the neck with no binding. Also, they are the same depth as the C-mans.

Thanks, I appreciate that. SK deepwells are worthless for me, since they won't go on a stud with a thin nut, they bottom out partway through the socket, pisses me off.

I can't wait until to get the full set of 1/2" deepwell sockets. I could go craftsman like everything else, but...I'm curious to try the Toptul, and I'm sick of Sears giving it to me from behind.
 

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So by looking like that, it appears they're more or less equal to the craftsmans in regards to the depth of the hex part inside the socket, and about the same i.d. all the way up?

No, I think the craftsman deep sockets may have more usable depth. For example, a Toptul deep 13mm socket is approximately 2.5 inches long overall. The hex shaped depth inside the socket is 1 3/32 inches deep. A Craftsman 13mm deep 6 point socket is also about 2.5 inches long with an internal hex depth of 1 5/16 inches. I used a pocket steel rule for the measurements.
 
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I like the way TopTul narrows down the drive end or wrench end (depending on the size) of their sockets; I think that looks sharp as hell. :)
 
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What ratchet do you have? I've been wanting to try out either the 72tooth satin or the gearless in 3/8"

I have the CJKN1224 3/8 drive 72 tooth satin finished flex head ratchet. It has a smooth ratcheting action. The only thing I don't care for, is it only has a single hole for a detent ball to keep the ratchet head straight. I would like it to have two additional holes at 45 degrees forward and aft of center. It's a minor design flaw. I doubt if I will try the Gearless version. I had a Mac gearless a few years back that soured me on the whole gearless ratchet thing.
 

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Hmmm, that concerns me. I don't understand why they don't broach the socket the entire way. That's one of the huge benefits to craftsman over most brands. If you're in a tight spot but need a deepwell on a stud, you can't afford to have the socket move back as you unscrew then nut sometimes...

Edit: Darn, just looked at the site, they are indeed that way, no good to me. That *****, I really wanted some. I'll have to find some other toptul stuff.
 
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I like the way TopTul narrows down the drive end or wrench end (depending on the size) of their sockets; I think that looks sharp as hell. :)

It's more than a cosmetic feature. It's also a handy feature as it provides with an area to grip when removing sockets with oily hands.:thumbup:
 
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I have the CJKN1224 3/8 drive 72 tooth satin finished flex head ratchet. It has a smooth ratcheting action. The only thing I don't care for, is it only has a single hole for a detent ball to keep the ratchet head straight. I would like it to have two additional holes at 45 degrees forward and aft of center. It's a minor design flaw. I doubt if I will try the Gearless version. I had a Mac gearless a few years back that soured me on the whole gearless ratchet thing.

What happened with the gearless one you tried? I haven't so much as held a gearless ratchet so my curiosity about them is piqued. It did seem a little gimicky to me but I wanted to try it out anyway. Sounds like I should stick to the 72tooth in its silky-satin-awesomeness
 

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I can't speak for any other brand of Gearless ratchet except for the Mac one I had. It was difficult to change directions on. You couldn't just rotate the selector knob. You had to take a little pressure off the square drive and then rotate it to change directions. I got tired of it quickly and dumped it on Ebay.
 

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So far I like my gearless 1/4 and 3/8 ratchet also the extra long 3/8 ratchet, but my favorite Toptul tool may be the extra long metric combo wrenches. I think overall the tools will work out and if Mike stays in the game customer service will remain high so I think we will see more of it. This Taiwan tool company has sure done it's homework and seems to be on the way to a mainstream company. I also remember Taiwan is US friend in asia unlike most countries around it.
 
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To answer a previous question about price. The total for both sets shipped was ~$120. I can't remember the breakdown per set, I'll look it up tomorrow when I figure out where I left the invoice :p
 

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r6, thanks a lot for posting all the awesome pics and your thoughts on the sockets. I can't wait to get my Toptul stuff...

I really like my top tul ratchets and the I have a complete set of bits, not inserts but 1/4-1/2 sockets with the bits in them, let me know if you want pictures of them and I will start another thread...

Pretty please... :drool:
 

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Hmmm, that concerns me. I don't understand why they don't broach the socket the entire way. That's one of the huge benefits to craftsman over most brands. If you're in a tight spot but need a deepwell on a stud, you can't afford to have the socket move back as you unscrew then nut sometimes...

Edit: Darn, just looked at the site, they are indeed that way, no good to me. That *****, I really wanted some. I'll have to find some other toptul stuff.

That is a good point nissan!
 

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Wow, those sockets look really great. You can tell that the tooling that Toptul uses is definitely in better condition that the tooling used to make Craftsman sockets. The only thing I don't like is the fact that the Toptul sockets are a little longer than teh Craftsman... clearance issues.

I have run into clearance issues with Craftsman sockets and went to shorter GearWrench sockets to get the job done. I couldn't imagine using a standard-length socket set that was actually longer.
 
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Wow, those sockets look really great. You can tell that the tooling that Toptul uses is definitely in better condition that the tooling used to make Craftsman sockets. The only thing I don't like is the fact that the Toptul sockets are a little longer than teh Craftsman... clearance issues.

I have run into clearance issues with Craftsman sockets and went to shorter GearWrench sockets to get the job done. I couldn't imagine using a standard-length socket set that was actually longer.

On the standard length sockets I've noticed this is mainly a concern when using a universal joint in a tight space. I'll need to compare these to the Husky sockets I have as well.

Gotmud13613 pointed out that the smaller sockets on the 3/8" dr deep well sockets have a shallow usable depth. I'll compare these to the Craftsman and Husky stuff I have when I get home. Thanks for measuring those up Fedwrench :beer: When I looked, the sockets that had a shallower depth on the 3/8" dr were the 7, 8, and 9mm.

I'm at work right now :bounce: so when I get home I'll snap a couple more shots next to a brighter chromed Husky and get some shots of the wall depth on the other sockets. If anyone has requests for other comparisons or something I missed let me know. :thumbup:
 

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Maybe I'm overlooking something, but what kind of situation whould the extra useable depth get you out of? I can't remember a time where I needed a little more useable depth.
 

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good looking sockets and the price is fairly decent. I may pull the trigger on some Toptul items.
 
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good looking sockets and the price is fairly decent. I may pull the trigger on some Toptul items.

Good to know I'm not the only one that says "pull the trigger", though that gets some weird looks around the office. :shocking:

I keep meaning to take more pictures but I've been busy lately...soon!
 
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