Jeez, why does everyone assume all of us on here drive trucks!? My little Jetta has picked up many vises and successfully hauled them home, oh and not to mention all while doing it at 38 mpg!
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That's cute.
Outlawmws
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I think if you look back just a page or two, you should find your answer...
And that is I believe a forged vise, so probably worth what they are asking.
Burgerkong
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This is my latest acquisition from Her Majesty's stores of surplus Crown Assets, a Wilton 500S, requiring very little of my after-tax earnings to buy:
It's my first Wilton so, to satisfy my own interest, I am trying to figure out its age. The stamp on the keyway of the round barrel says "4 93":
Does this mean the vise was manufactured in 1993 (month-year of manufacture) or 1988 (month-year of 5 year warranty expiration)?
$200 for that? YOU ****! Never seen a Wilton for sale locally!
I tried to get thru this post but got too distracted by those LONG bolts! It creeps me out....
Outlawmws
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Nice record, but have you ever heard of punctuation? 
jakemac
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I had to walk away from a 4" Parker this morning.
It looked like it had been beaten to death by King Kong. I couldn't find any salvageable parts, even the main nut was toast. He was begging me to take it for $30 and I still had to walk away. It was just too broken up. The only thing holding the pieces of the swivel base together were the bolts through the bench.
At a different sale I picked up a nice little Stanley #741 1-1/2" jaw clamp-on vise. The original color is a reddish brown. This one will get cleaned up and used on my "clean" bench for light work. There is a 3/32" slop in the jaw, but I think I can shim behind the main nut to tighten that up.
The stampings are on the end of the main slide.
It looked like it had been beaten to death by King Kong. I couldn't find any salvageable parts, even the main nut was toast. He was begging me to take it for $30 and I still had to walk away. It was just too broken up. The only thing holding the pieces of the swivel base together were the bolts through the bench.
At a different sale I picked up a nice little Stanley #741 1-1/2" jaw clamp-on vise. The original color is a reddish brown. This one will get cleaned up and used on my "clean" bench for light work. There is a 3/32" slop in the jaw, but I think I can shim behind the main nut to tighten that up.
The stampings are on the end of the main slide.
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Outlawmws
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Jake, I have a 765 with the "Sweethart (Stanley works) Logo also. 2-1/2" jaws. a little history I picked up:
The logo places it from 1920-1934? - Mine is Black/Orange, an I believe original colors
Stanley bought the P.J. Leavens Co. of Vineland, New Jersey in 1911, and introduced two new lines of vises named Stanley "Jersey" and Victor "Jersey" to make use of the familiar Leavens' "Jersey" vise name. When Stanley made their big internal merger and introduced the Sweetheart logo in 1919, they also dropped the "Jersey" name and began casting the Stanely name in the side of their vises.
A few years later they also added the model number to the side of the vise. By 1929 they started to pare down the number of vises they offered, and did the same in 1934, then again in 1939 (although they also introduced 3 new styles of vises in 1934 that were much cheaper to produce)
The logo places it from 1920-1934? - Mine is Black/Orange, an I believe original colors
Stanley bought the P.J. Leavens Co. of Vineland, New Jersey in 1911, and introduced two new lines of vises named Stanley "Jersey" and Victor "Jersey" to make use of the familiar Leavens' "Jersey" vise name. When Stanley made their big internal merger and introduced the Sweetheart logo in 1919, they also dropped the "Jersey" name and began casting the Stanely name in the side of their vises.
A few years later they also added the model number to the side of the vise. By 1929 they started to pare down the number of vises they offered, and did the same in 1934, then again in 1939 (although they also introduced 3 new styles of vises in 1934 that were much cheaper to produce)
Duct Tape Man
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Tiny little 2-inch at best, clamp on vise I got today from the flea market. Blue with red jaws. Only marking is the COO, Japan on the handle socket. Probably made in the 1960s. Works good, I got it for my daughter, who is gaining an interest in fishing, she wanted a small vise to help her tie flies with for fly casting.
Vise cost me $2.
Vise cost me $2.
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Well guys, I picked up the Morgan 80 today, it's larger than I had imagined! The vise that it's sitting next to isn't a little guy itself, it's a nearly 100 lb Morgan 150..
That's all for now, hopefully I'll have new jaw pads and the swivel base kit soon enough, also, it weighs more than the 187 lbs that Morgan has their current model listed at. The scale puts it's at 196 lbs, after adding the swivel base kit and jaw pads it should easily be 225-230 lbs.
That's all for now, hopefully I'll have new jaw pads and the swivel base kit soon enough, also, it weighs more than the 187 lbs that Morgan has their current model listed at. The scale puts it's at 196 lbs, after adding the swivel base kit and jaw pads it should easily be 225-230 lbs.
drivesitfar
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Andrew : SWEET
jakemac
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Thanks Outlaw.
I saved your text as a note so I wouldn't forget (Now if I could only remember where I put it
) . I knew that the numbers stamped on it weren't a 1908 "made-on" date, but I was having trouble putting my finger on a decade. It's always nice when someone else has already done the homework. Andrew -
Andrew : SWEET
and might I add a few of these as well ........ 
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Torquaholic
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I Finally got a vise!!! This forum turned me on to the classic, USA-made, pieces and I found a Parker 953 for a decent price. It was advertised as a 958, but I believe it to be a 953 because of the 3" jaw width. It had already been stripped & cleaned; I added some paint and mounted it this weekend, then bathed the main screw in anti-seize and tested it out. It works well enough for my little projects! The jaws have very little wear and line up perfectly. I hope this will be a vise I can pass on to my first kid. He's due to arrive in a few months. Thanks GarageJournal for having all the great info and ideas.
-Kevin
BTW, anyone able to estimate how old it is?
-Kevin
BTW, anyone able to estimate how old it is?
Outlawmws
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I went back out after lunch to see if a Wilton I'd seen was any better priced; this morning it was "I can't go less than $40"... Its on a shop made tripod stand, and has lived out in the weather who knows how long... Rusty, but not to beat up.
I ask this afternoon "How much for just the vise?"
and hes happy with $20! "Deal"!
It's missing the end cap, but everything else is there, if rusty. It tips the scale at just past 19 lbs. and it is a Chicago, and I popped the slide out (well greased) and its dated 4 - 47, so with that being the expiration of the 5 year warranty back then, its a '42. 72 yeas old! It doesn't look a day over 50!
This one will get an E-bath before painting, and I think this one gets Hammered Black just to be different. I may hang on to this one, at least for a while, unless someone happened to wave an irresistible amount of cash under my nose.
Anyone know the right size freeze plug to duplicate the end cap for a 3" Wilton" (Is this a 300-S?)
I ask this afternoon "How much for just the vise?"
and hes happy with $20! "Deal"!
It's missing the end cap, but everything else is there, if rusty. It tips the scale at just past 19 lbs. and it is a Chicago, and I popped the slide out (well greased) and its dated 4 - 47, so with that being the expiration of the 5 year warranty back then, its a '42. 72 yeas old! It doesn't look a day over 50!
This one will get an E-bath before painting, and I think this one gets Hammered Black just to be different. I may hang on to this one, at least for a while, unless someone happened to wave an irresistible amount of cash under my nose.
Anyone know the right size freeze plug to duplicate the end cap for a 3" Wilton" (Is this a 300-S?)
Outlawmws
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Torquaholic, Nice Parker!
Outlawmws
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Jake, I keep odd notes like that in with my excel inventory list. (will I ever finish it? 
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)I went back out after lunch to see if a Wilton I'd seen was any better priced; ...........
and hes happy with $20! "Deal"!
Dang, and it's not frozen? Some day, some day. No likey the stand?balane
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I've never seen one that didn't take a 2" plug in the back so I assume that will fit but be sure to measure. That old Chicago Wilton looks really nice to me.
straightcut
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Outlaw,
Nice find!
Don't go with the freeze plug. Check your vise and go with one of these if it fits: http://www.etrailer.com/Grease-Caps/Fulton/F001610.html
These were a perfect fit for my Wilton 450.
Nice find!
Don't go with the freeze plug. Check your vise and go with one of these if it fits: http://www.etrailer.com/Grease-Caps/Fulton/F001610.html
These were a perfect fit for my Wilton 450.
Outlawmws
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Nope, one of the side locks is resisting, but everything else is smooth and well greased.
The stand was a shop built wide stance tripod. Lightly built, not bad, but not my cup of tea, and a space waster...
Outlawmws
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Guys, this is a "300" - 3 inch jaws; a quick measurement says the ID of he housing is around 1.670...
shiftdrift
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Decided to polish my jaws got the wilton c3 I'm restoring
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Mark in Indiana
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Jeez, why does everyone assume all of us on here drive trucks!? My little Jetta has picked up many vises and successfully hauled them home, oh and not to mention all while doing it at 38 mpg!
Andrew,
I've hauled many vises in my motorcycle saddlebags when I knew that that was all I was going for. When I go pickin', I can't do without a cargo van, when many of my picks take more than one truck load (I don't do enough to justify owning a 24' box truck...yet). BTW: Your Jetta brings back memories. I've been picking since I was in college. My vehicle back then, when dinosaurs roamed the earth, was a 1973 Fiat station wagon.
Mark in Indiana
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Well friends, I delivered the last of my custom work benches. I wanted to share this one with you guys because the customer had me mount a couple of vises that he supplied.
While we were discussing how he wanted his bench made, he noticed the old iron vises that I had through my shop. He then apologized for the vises he supplied because they were made in...China. I told him that it was no problem, just remember me when you want some iron that you can pass to your grand kids.
While we were discussing how he wanted his bench made, he noticed the old iron vises that I had through my shop. He then apologized for the vises he supplied because they were made in...China. I told him that it was no problem, just remember me when you want some iron that you can pass to your grand kids.
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taumac
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I picked up this little guy today.
Have a good one, Gerard
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sgs236
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Went to an auction today and bought a Parker 205 Vise. Only after I got it home did I realize it is missing the reversing collar. I thought that I may be able to fabricate a new collar, but I am don't see how the collar attaches to the acme screw. I was expecting a groove in the screw for the collar to fit in. I would really appreciate it, if someone could post a picture of how the acme screw is attached to the dynamic jaw. To top it off, even if the vise was complete, I probably overpaid at $75.
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drivesitfar
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SGS:you did ok if that's all that is missing. One our members made a few in class at college and selling them for $15. See the hole on the front of dynamic? The holder mounts there and just look at other parker vises and you will see them.
taumac
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Sorry
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shiftdrift
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Forgot to post this
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McBrownie
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I Finally got a vise!!! This forum turned me on to the classic, USA-made, pieces and I found a Parker 953 for a decent price. It was advertised as a 958, but I believe it to be a 953 because of the 3" jaw width. It had already been stripped & cleaned; I added some paint and mounted it this weekend, then bathed the main screw in anti-seize and tested it out. It works well enough for my little projects! The jaws have very little wear and line up perfectly. I hope this will be a vise I can pass on to my first kid. He's due to arrive in a few months. Thanks GarageJournal for having all the great info and ideas.
-Kevin
BTW, anyone able to estimate how old it is?
My guess is that, since it does not say "Pat. 1930", it is somewhere between 1947 and 1957. 1957 is when Parker was bought by Union. Nice vise!
KMScott
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SGS, the spindle does not look like the right one, the handle body just looks different then the Parker vises I have seen or own, the handle bodies on other Parker's have a large chamfer and the end, yours looks pretty sharp. The handle body should be a little longer and have a groove cut in for the collar. Here is a picture of a Parker was restored by Macklin.
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AndrewH
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Looking at a couple of my Parkers that's definitely not original, as the of the handles on Parkers are balls, they aren't peened like that one is. Plus everything you said!
sgs236
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Thanks for the picture. Now it makes sense. I was having a hard time understanding how the holder attached to the spindle. I just have the wrong spindle, in addition to the missing holder. Unless I can find the correct spindle, I think I might be able to salvage it by cutting a groove in the spindle and making a custom holder to fit in the groove. I have been going to auctions, yard sales, estate sales, etc. for two years now and this was the first Parker Vise that I have seen for sale. I guess I got too caught up in moment and didn't pay close enough attention.
KMScott
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You can have made this piece I drew in purple and have it welded to your spindle thread diameter. Just make sure the end piece fits in the pocket of your dynamic jaw. Getting the collar will give you the diameter to cut the groove, remember the dynamic jaw does not need much pressure to open it and the welded end will handle any tightening. I hope this makes sense.
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JeremyBurke
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This isn't my first vise. But it is the first I bought that was worth buying or didn't require another member help me find. I am not sure it's going to stay in my shop forever but for $40 I think it's pretty nice, rusty, but nice. There is a chip in the bottom of the dynamic jaw (see pic 1). Otherwise in pretty good shape for a 70 year old.
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drivesitfar
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sgs:sorry I didn't see you have a different screw than parker usually puts on their vises. I've been using my cell for a few days and hard to see fine details as well as normal. Before you go to the work KM mentions does that screw work with the vise nut you have? Maybe you just need to grab a parker screw from one with bad jaws that a member might be parting out? Good luck
swift: nice C2 or C3. The swivel bases on those are their week points and a lot have broke so if you and others travel with them you might want to lay on their sides. How much does it weigh, jaw size and date stamp on the slide if you get a chance please. Probably wiltons best commercial vise. Nice score.
swift: nice C2 or C3. The swivel bases on those are their week points and a lot have broke so if you and others travel with them you might want to lay on their sides. How much does it weigh, jaw size and date stamp on the slide if you get a chance please. Probably wiltons best commercial vise. Nice score.
bigcaddy
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Nice Reed/Craftsman. It even has some original Cobalt blue on the bottom of the base. Those are great looking vises
I think if you look back just a page or two, you should find your answer...
And that is I believe a forged vise, so probably worth what they are asking.
when i was refurbishing mine i had to repair it on the bottom of the sliding jaw. The part that held it into the track had the casting busted out on it. i went to my local welding supply store and got some cast rod preheated it then tried to weld it. the weld just cracked off so i cut a section off the bottom then bolted a plate to it. It works like a champ now.
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very nice find indeed.
