took a harder look, says by sears, also says by sears authorized supplier. so whatever you make out of that. i think it's mostly by sears
not bad if you have some points
GearWrench 4pc 120XP Flex-Head Ratchet Set $99.99 @Amazon.com
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took a harder look, says by sears, also says by sears authorized supplier. so whatever you make out of that. i think it's mostly by sears
not bad if you have some points
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took a harder look, says by sears, also says by sears authorized supplier. so whatever you make out of that. i think it's mostly by sears
not bad if you have some points
It is worth the risk lol?
I believe you're correct. Could be 60 or 84T
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Ahhh nvm
84t, according to the part number listed on Sears page.
Description Item # 00992825000P Model # 81230
Includes full polish flex head teardrop ratchets in 1/4", 3/8" and 1/2" Drive as well as a full polish stubby flex teardrop ratchet in 3/8" Drive
GearWrench page:
http://www.gearwrench.com/gearwrench-81230f-4-pc-full-polish-flex-handle-84-tooth-ratchet-set.html
Nice find! This is actually the older model, part # 81230F and is the 84-tooth flex-head set. The newer 120XP is part # 81230P and is 60-tooth.
The 120XP currently has a higher retail price but that doesn't necessarily mean it's better, they're always jacking the prices of stuff up. Anyway, I'd be curious to know if anyone has A/B'd the 60-tooth 120XP vs. the 84-tooth Flex?
Either way, those 84-tooth ratchets are at an AWESOME price! I'm breaking down and ordering a set.
You can wait 2-4 weeks and get it for $79.77 from Amazon
Or you can do what I did and get it right now from Sears for $76.26 by using SAVE15!
GearWrench 4 Pc. Mixed Full Polish Flex Ratchet Set, 1/4", 3/8" and 1/2" Drive
i hate waiting and might break down and order the 84t set. i have to find some way to spend that $10 tool of the month points 
this is an older thread on the set, i assume it's the same set, from 2009. reviews are generally favorable.
this is an older thread on the set, i assume it's the same set, from 2009. reviews are generally favorable.
i've no proof but i am thinking the 84T might be sturdier - you know the more fancier the design, more moving parts, more chance of failure ... what do i know , just thinking out loud
Why?
It's the newest but not necessarily the best. In general 84 teeth is more favorable to 60. I'm not sure what else the differences are besides the tooth count. The 120XP is double-pawl but I'm not sure about the Flex right now...still researching.
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Why no the flex?
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F: $172.01 from Gearwrench
4 Pc. Full Polish Flex Handle 84 Tooth Ratchet Set
•Full Polish Chrome Handle
•Bright Chrome Finish
•Bright Chrome Finish
•Flush Mounted On-Off Lever
•Teardrop Shaped Head
•Meets or Exceeds ASME B1007.10
P: $197.82 from Gearwrench
•Double-Stacked Pawls Engage a 60-tooth Gear Providing Exceptional Strength, Exceeding ASME Specifications
•Teardrop Low Profile Head and Flush Mounted On/Off Switch Allow Better Access in Tight Spaces
•6-Position Flex Head for Adjustable Access Angle
•Highly Visible On/Off Markings on the Head
•Enclosed Head Design for Extreme Resistance to Dirt Infiltration
•120 Positions, 3° Ratcheting Arc
•The Gear is Alternately Engaged by the Double-Stacked Pawls which give a 3° Swing Arc for Faster Work
•Longer Reach Handle to Access Hard to Reach Fasteners
•Full Polish Chrome Handle
•Meets or Exceeds ASME B107.10
Sounds to me like the double pawl makes it drive like it has 120 teeth but the strength of a 60 tooth. I think the 120XP is the better set...Anyone else have anything to add? I bought the 120XP's.
4 Pc. Full Polish Flex Handle 84 Tooth Ratchet Set
•Full Polish Chrome Handle
•Bright Chrome Finish
•Bright Chrome Finish
•Flush Mounted On-Off Lever
•Teardrop Shaped Head
•Meets or Exceeds ASME B1007.10
P: $197.82 from Gearwrench
•Double-Stacked Pawls Engage a 60-tooth Gear Providing Exceptional Strength, Exceeding ASME Specifications
•Teardrop Low Profile Head and Flush Mounted On/Off Switch Allow Better Access in Tight Spaces
•6-Position Flex Head for Adjustable Access Angle
•Highly Visible On/Off Markings on the Head
•Enclosed Head Design for Extreme Resistance to Dirt Infiltration
•120 Positions, 3° Ratcheting Arc
•The Gear is Alternately Engaged by the Double-Stacked Pawls which give a 3° Swing Arc for Faster Work
•Longer Reach Handle to Access Hard to Reach Fasteners
•Full Polish Chrome Handle
•Meets or Exceeds ASME B107.10
Sounds to me like the double pawl makes it drive like it has 120 teeth but the strength of a 60 tooth. I think the 120XP is the better set...Anyone else have anything to add? I bought the 120XP's.
If you didn't need the 4pc set, Armstrong offers a locking flex head that comes 60T and can fit the gearwrench 84T repair kits.
Armstrong is made in the USA as well.
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Link?
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Somehow this was 65.74 for me.
Used discover so I should get 10% cash back as well this weekend.Qrazy
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Pretty good PDF about them here:
http://www.apextoolgroup.com/WebShare/files/multisite_brochures_pdf/T550884.pdf
http://www.apextoolgroup.com/WebShare/files/multisite_brochures_pdf/T550884.pdf
Somehow this was 65.74 for me.
Ok, that for 65 bucks is just retarded!
Well done!
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Thank you Sir! They will be my first Flex head of any brand.
oh the 4 pc. YES!
Ok sounds a bit gimmicky but unless proven otherwise I concede the 120XP is the best. Just as Qrazy said, the 120XP "features 120 ratcheting positions for a 3° swing that allows for easier access in tight quarters". It achieves this by having 2 pawls that engage alternately on a 60-tooth gear.
$20 between the 84T (4.3°) and 120 (3°)
$20 between the 84T (4.3°) and 120 (3°)
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It comes and it goes, half the time it came up at 95, the half at 80. When it showed up 80 I added it to my cart and it stayed there and let me add the $15 coupon.
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Those that have the 120 flex heads...... any regret that they don't lock?
Got them for $65.74 aswell. Price keeps jumping between 95 and 80...gotta time it right
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Sears is annnnnnnooooooyyyyyyinnngggggg
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Not me. Just making a general statement
I was able to get the $80 and I used Save15 and also had $10 in surprise points. I had a $25 gift card that was given to me as a gift so I was out the door for less than $35 out of my pocket. Time will tell if they will honor the $80 price.
just did live chat and they are refunding the $10 difference ($91 vs $81). But the live chat said she is processing the refund as reward points, I guess I can't complain, still a smoking deal.
Final deal I got: $91 -$15(save15) - $10 in reward points = $66 Plus an additional $10 in reward points.
Thanks OP and whoever posted the sears link!
Final deal I got: $91 -$15(save15) - $10 in reward points = $66 Plus an additional $10 in reward points.
Thanks OP and whoever posted the sears link!
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I tried as well and was ready to check out. Jumped up $10, which kills it for me. Just going to keep an eye on it and see if it drops back down.
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For those wondering on the 120 v 84 ratchets....
The 84T ratchets are actually rated as stronger (190% of ASME torque vs. the 120's 180%). However, the 84T models are known to not be as reliable- they may have a greater strength, but they jam more frequently, lock up, etc (in fact, I've only seen one or two complaints about 120XP's failing/jamming, where as there are several very long threads dedicated to the 84T jamming up and plenty of reviews floating on the internet about it). The 84T head is also slightly slimmer.
180% vs 190% of ASME torque works out to be very little difference in real life, and I'll take the more reliable and better designed 120XP over the 84T models.
The 84T ratchets are actually rated as stronger (190% of ASME torque vs. the 120's 180%). However, the 84T models are known to not be as reliable- they may have a greater strength, but they jam more frequently, lock up, etc (in fact, I've only seen one or two complaints about 120XP's failing/jamming, where as there are several very long threads dedicated to the 84T jamming up and plenty of reviews floating on the internet about it). The 84T head is also slightly slimmer.
180% vs 190% of ASME torque works out to be very little difference in real life, and I'll take the more reliable and better designed 120XP over the 84T models.