The VISES of Garage Journal
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draw file the high spots and call it good.oldldh
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jakemac
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Outlawmws
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The "Ever Elusive" Reed 209!!!
Or...
I wasn't going to go there...
oldldh
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Outlawmws
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AndrewH
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I'm going to post this here, as well as in the vise part swap thread. Does anyone have a Wilton 450 swivel base? I'm not sure the exact dimensions yet, but if you know your base is from a 450S I'd definitely be interested in buying it from you. Let me know!
Jamesrstoll
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My grandpa kept excellent care of it. He died recently and my grandma gave it to me. I came here to see what anyone might know about it? It's pretty cool.
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GETRIDAONE
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Sometimes smaller is better, for instance your little Miller Falls. That looks great and fits perfect on the base. I'm going to have a baby next week, a baby bullet that is. It is a 2" with the powrarm.
jakemac
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boomer12831
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I picked up this vise the other day at a neighbors garage sale. I don't know what they call it but it has a casting that says 980A on it. Does anyone have a clue as to what this is ? Part anvil / Part vise. I have never seen one but I couldn't turn it down. Thanks for looking, Ed.
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GETRIDAONE
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Just my guess but I think they were made by Rock Island just because of the scollop design on top of the jaws. They were called farmers vises. I have one with a patent date of 1912 and the other one is like yours with nothing but the number. Google any vise manufacturer and the old ads will come up. There are several manufacturers that made them in the same design.
Outlawmws
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I found your other thread by looking up your posts. Guys & Gals, he's talking about a 5" Prentiss Bulldog 5" fixed base! Looks to be in excellent unmolested condition, virtually all original paint!
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Outlawmws
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I can't say who the manufacturer was, but I'm pretty sure Sears sold that vise out of there catalogs back in the day:
http://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showpost.php?p=2308587&postcount=1
Lower right corner of that 1925 ad. Very close, keeping in mind those are artists sketches, and often simplified for speed of creation. It even shows a spring.
What did you give for it? I'd love to ad one of those to the herd someday, but they always seem to think "valuable antique" and for a busted or incomplete one...
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72CZ
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What is the consensus on repaint or leave as is?
I just picked up this Wilton #4. It's dated best I can tell 4-47 ,hard to see in photo but looks like a 4,so a 1942 I guess?
It has a trace of the "Five year warranty" sticker still on it.
Thanks !
I just picked up this Wilton #4. It's dated best I can tell 4-47 ,hard to see in photo but looks like a 4,so a 1942 I guess?
It has a trace of the "Five year warranty" sticker still on it.
Thanks !
McBrownie
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McBrownie
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It's very cool. I love to see the "family heirlooms" that show up on this thread. Enjoy it and pass it along when the time comes.
oldldh
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72CZ----They're only original once...Leave it as it is...Give it a good "gentle" cleaning and lubrication, and use it for another forty years...
oldldh
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If you've got the cash...
I believe Wilton will be glad to sell you a "swivel kit..."
It wouldn't be cheap, but...
It's a Wilton!!!
And everyone knows they're worth more than any other kind of clamper...
craftsman 391 5181
Hey All, I'm a newbe here on Garage Journal and just picked up a craftsman 391-5181 vise made in japan from a guy at work, His father in law recently passed and had lots of new tools he never unboxed and obviously collected over the years, many years, I had the privlege of purchasing some of these tools and I was needing some input as to what this vise might be worth, It was never mounted but not in a box it has no damage and has never been used, and trying to find any info on the 391 5181 on the web is almost impossible like they almost don't exist, this post in the Garage Journal drew me to this site in hopes some one may know and I get a chance to hang out with some other garage heads, lol.
Hey All, I'm a newbe here on Garage Journal and just picked up a craftsman 391-5181 vise made in japan from a guy at work, His father in law recently passed and had lots of new tools he never unboxed and obviously collected over the years, many years, I had the privlege of purchasing some of these tools and I was needing some input as to what this vise might be worth, It was never mounted but not in a box it has no damage and has never been used, and trying to find any info on the 391 5181 on the web is almost impossible like they almost don't exist, this post in the Garage Journal drew me to this site in hopes some one may know and I get a chance to hang out with some other garage heads, lol.
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Outlawmws
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I could flip either way on that one 72CZ, Depends on what kind of shop and how you intend to use it.
cptn_zippy
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Finishing Question
Well, I made an electrolysis setup and used it on my vise…derusted and stripped paint - worked awesome. I then went over it with a wire wheel. So now I'm ready to paint it - I got some self-etching primer, but what should I douse the parts in prior to priming? Brake cleaner?
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Well, I made an electrolysis setup and used it on my vise…derusted and stripped paint - worked awesome. I then went over it with a wire wheel. So now I'm ready to paint it - I got some self-etching primer, but what should I douse the parts in prior to priming? Brake cleaner?
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jakemac
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I'd just wipe it down with acetone.
Outlawmws
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This, but after the acetone dries, I like to hit cast iron parts in particular with a Bernz-O-Matic torch, or leave it in the hot sun for a while and then paint. This gets any subsurface oil/water/you-name-it out, and the paint sticks MUCH better; after that minimal chance for rust to form under the paint. (You can actually SEE th stuff boil out and evaporate off...)
For clean parts you can also preheat in the kitchen oven.
Outlawmws
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Re: craftsman 391 5181
All I have on Craftsman/sears vises:
http://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?p=2308593
Value is whatever someone is willing to pay. Find a drooling collector and it could be pretty good, but you won't retire on it...
All I have on Craftsman/sears vises:
http://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?p=2308593
Value is whatever someone is willing to pay. Find a drooling collector and it could be pretty good, but you won't retire on it...
joe.striper
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WOW, you guys are tough! My wife of 31 years would vote for Athol.
joe.striper
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I'd have loved a baby Wilton, but for the price, $50, I"m not complaining.
The little Millers Falls vise is sooo tight.
Here's a question. Is the ball of the Power Arm supposed to be lubed or is it a dry fit?
sentimental vises are the best vises. i also picked up my grandfather's vise recently and couldn't be happier. enjoy it, take care of it, use it, and pass it on down!
i vote as-is if you're going to use it.
va.grouseman
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Originally posted by joe.striper.
Here's a question. Is the ball of the Power Arm supposed to be lubed or is it a dry fit?
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The label on the 301 says lubricate with powdered graphite. Don't know if that applies to all models.
Here's a question. Is the ball of the Power Arm supposed to be lubed or is it a dry fit?
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The label on the 301 says lubricate with powdered graphite. Don't know if that applies to all models.
Outlawmws
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That makes sense; less chance for it collecting grit and galling.
oldldh
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I've said it before, grandchildren are the arrows we fire into the future, where we can't go...
Both the recently mentioned Grandfathers left a little bit of themselves behind to go on the "arrow's flight"...
Be grateful, and pass them on to your grandchildren...
That way, you can go too---
Both the recently mentioned Grandfathers left a little bit of themselves behind to go on the "arrow's flight"...
Be grateful, and pass them on to your grandchildren...
That way, you can go too---
Fretters
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Fretters
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Here is one vote for "Leave it as it is". It could very well be a piece of WWII history.
Sound advice. I'm personally of the same opinion as Outlaw on that one though, (namely because it's currently painted grey
). It is in good enough condition to not need anything other than wiping over with a paraffin, (kerosene), doused rag to remove any **** and then calling it a day. No notable rust or suchlike. It's just the fact that it's painted grey though which makes a full repaint so tempting to suggest. 
GETRIDAONE
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Need a Parker ?
http://cincinnati.craigslist.org/tls/4518128239.html
http://cincinnati.craigslist.org/tls/4518128239.html
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ShadowRuleZ
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And AndrewH is on his way in 3... 2... 1....
Mark in Indiana
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Sound advice. I'm personally of the same opinion as Outlaw on that one though, (namely because it's currently painted grey
That's a great looking vise.
Looks like I'm going to march out of step here with my opinion. I would restore it to look like it did when it came out of the box. Except if there is a historical or sentimental reason to keep it that color. IMHO: Wilton Bullets are in the category of vises that made history on their own.
epossum
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Just FYI - There are at least 4 Youtube videos of the vises on this forum. Just clips of each vise, probably taken from these posts. It's hours of vises - I think each video is about 50 minutes long. Posted by sezardon about 6 months ago under "The Vises of Garage Journal". Great for just looking at the vises without any distracting text! The person who put it together put in a lot of work! Thanks!
The person who put it together put in a lot of work! Thanks!AndrewH
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Haha, it's tempting as those 806's weigh in at 159 lbs each. I'm not sure about the 79x but those prices are pretty good. I just dont feel like driving that far as it's roughly 5 hours one way, so the gas cost would be very high.
oldldh
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AndrewH
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Now that is a flimsy excuse...
Gas up, and go fetch!!!
Haha, I've already got plenty of pick ups scheduled this weekend, I really can't, don't have the time. You'll see why soon enough