Mac Tools AWP Titanium Series Impacts Reliably & Power VS Other Brands

[sgtgrizzo]

I walked in and started looking through the Mac Tools truck the other day and one of the techs I work with walked in to pick up an order. He had ordered a Mac Tools 1/2 impact (AWP050) and I laughed and told him that was a funny looking gun. Then he said go ahead and laugh this is the strongest 1/2 air impact on the market. I asked if it was stronger than Snap-On's since I own one. He said yes and he showed me the torque specs on the box which were 1250 ft lbs. When I saw that I felt like I got ripped off thinking I bought the best. As of now I'm looking to get a 3/8 air impact I was thinking Ingersoll Rand 2115TiMAX but Mac's 3/8 impact (AWP038) has 525 ft lbs That's pretty insane for a 3/8. I'm looking for the best in class power and reliability. If anyone has good advise to give to a brother about the Mac Tools AWP 3/8 (AWP038)1/2 (AWP050) or 3/4 (AWP075) Titanium series impacts it would greatly be appreciated. Because I couldn't find reviews or customer report information elsewhere. Thank you

 

[RedneckWelder]

Remember that the torque spec on the box is the so-called "nut busting torque" vs the actual working torque.

If you read the impact gun threads on here there is a lot of variance on these things.

And personally, I'd buy the virtually identical Proto versions of these guns before dropping the money on the Mac versions.

 

[sgtgrizzo]

Thank you I didn't know they were made by Proto now I'm doing more research

 

[alpaca]

I'm interested on the reliability of the proto/mac impacts too. Common sense tells me that more power in the same size gun says it won't last as long.

 

[RedneckWelder]

Thank you I didn't know they were made by Proto now I'm doing more research

The Proto J150WP is the 1/2 gun, and the J175WP is the 3/4 gun, and the J138WP is the 3/8 version.

 

[BK13]

And personally, I'd buy the virtually identical Proto versions of these guns before dropping the money on the Mac versions.

My thoughts exactly.

 

[ADSR]

It is the strongest gun in it's class. I own the proto version which is the exact same specs as the MAC, only for 200 bucks less. The proto is 250$ at Trident supply.

 

[ADSR]

The dewalt version is not titanium and only has 650ft/lb torque, but same style case.

 

[AndrewV]

And you can order proto/blackhawk from your local Mac guy aswell.

Looking at getting the proto 3/8 myself.

 

[Piles]

Best guns on the market imo. Couple guys had snap ons and got rid of them in favour of the macs.

The proto is identical, and very enticing but its just so hard for me to warrenty anything proto compared to mac so I decided against it.

There "nut busting torque" is a load of ****, but the guns are great.

 

[colin39]

I have had the mac almost a year now and am well impressed with it, all the lads in work have the mg snapons and , to be honest there isnt much variation in them . That said they all like the balance of the awp050

 

[Fedwrench]

I have the Proto 1/2 drive gun. I never thought anything would make me give up my IR2135TI but the Proto gun did. It's not balanced as well as the IR but, it's a lot stronger. The Proto and Mac guns are similar and maybe the same internally but, as you can see in the photos above the trigger isn't as well protected on the proto gun as it is on the mac gun. I have a nice red MAC boot on my proto gun that fit perfectly. shop around for the best deal.

On a side note, Cornwell and NAPA have big Blue impacts with the same trigger/reversing dial as found on the Proto gun. all three are made in Taiwan.

 

[ADSR]

Still on sale for 250$

http://www.trident-supply.com/PROTO_3_8_DRIVE_AIR_IMPACT_WRENCH_p/577-j150wp.htm

 

[Spudland_Dave]

Thank you I didn't know they were made by Proto now I'm doing more research

Who says they are made by Proto? Maybe MAC Makes the Proto? But seriously, both ARE made by SBD (Stanley Black & Decker) 6 vs 1/2 Dozen.

And you can order proto/blackhawk from your local Mac guy aswell.

Yup, most MAC guys have no problem doing this. I know my truck had a lot of Blackhawk on it.

The proto is identical, and very enticing but its just so hard for me to warrenty anything proto compared to mac so I decided against it.

As mentioned before...INTERNALLY the Proto is the same, externally there are some subtle "Feature" differences. I would prefer to get the MAC, but Trident's pricing on the PROTO make the math awfully hard to justify buying the MAC, even though I would prefer the MAC

 

[Marlin]

Who says they are made by Proto? Maybe MAC Makes the Proto? But seriously, both ARE made by SBD (Stanley Black & Decker) 6 vs 1/2 Dozen.



Yup, most MAC guys have no problem doing this. I know my truck had a lot of Blackhawk on it.

Pretty sure they are made by any of those mentioned but are made by a third party for them out of Taiwan.

 

[nicksnothereman]

I walked in and started looking through the Mac Tools truck the other day and one of the techs I work with walked in to pick up an order. He had ordered a Mac Tools 1/2 impact (AWP050) and I laughed and told him that was a funny looking gun. Then he said go ahead and laugh this is the strongest 1/2 air impact on the market. I asked if it was stronger than Snap-On's since I own one. He said yes and he showed me the torque specs on the box which were 1250 ft lbs. When I saw that I felt like I got ripped off thinking I bought the best. As of now I'm looking to get a 3/8 air impact I was thinking Ingersoll Rand 2115TiMAX but Mac's 3/8 impact (AWP038) has 525 ft lbs That's pretty insane for a 3/8. I'm looking for the best in class power and reliability. If anyone has good advise to give to a brother about the Mac Tools AWP 3/8 (AWP038)1/2 (AWP050) or 3/4 (AWP075) Titanium series impacts it would greatly be appreciated. Because I couldn't find reviews or customer report information elsewhere. Thank you

You're going to have this feeling a lot if you look into what you've bought

 

[xurusaibobx]

ive seen one where the handle snap off actually but other then that these guns are really good

 

[SASORacing]

Mac is my favorite for 1/2 impacts!

 

[stikman56]

You're going to have this feeling a lot if you look into what you've bought

At 1260, the AWP050 isn't rated the strongest 1/2", he's feeding you some BS there. There are several that are 1295 and 1300. Not familiar with the 3/8" you're talking about. There are two choices on those at 500 ft'lbs. but they're not Mac, and Aircat makes one that's 700....not a typo,700 ft' lbs. in a 3/8", pretty crazy. For my money I'd go with a Cornwell CAT2150, Matco MT2138 (same wrenches) for the 3/8", they're crazy strong, I have a CAT2150 myself. 1/2", there's Aircat 1150K (twin hammers) Nitrocat 1200K (pin hammers) both at 1295, Sunex SX4348 at 1300, Nitrocat 1250K at 1300, Matco MT2769 at 1300,

 

[jethro29]

mac's advertising is very mis-leading. it is nut busting torque, not actual working torque.the real torque of that gun is 650 foot pounds.the mg725 smokes it.i've tried them all and I ended up deciding that the mg725 is by far the most powerful out there in my opinion.

 

[MattPersman]

mac's advertising is very mis-leading. it is nut busting torque, not actual working torque.the real torque of that gun is 650 foot pounds.the mg725 smokes it.i've tried them all and I ended up deciding that the mg725 is by far the most powerful out there in my opinion.

Yes conveniently the same as the dewalt sells for a lot less and looks similar but a cheaper made housing.

 

[Wamsutta]

I can't see why Proto would leave the trigger guard off. It looks like the MAC guard would fit right on the Proto.

 

[Marlin]

With all the numbers being quoted there are a couple of things everyone should understand when making decisions.
1) There is no standard test for testing impact wrenches, so each manufacturer tests their own way. Variables that affect the results include, Run-time, air pressure, bolt size, bolt grade, how the threads were formed, thread lubrication, joint rate (soft or hard), socket fit, socket mass, how the impact is held and how the final torque is measured, plus probably 50 other things I've missed.

2) "Breakaway torque" "Loosening Torque" "Nut Busting Torque" are not the same as the Max reverse torque. Max reverse torque is typically measured using a LH threaded bolt so that the impact is tightening the joint in reverse, whereas Breakaway Torque and the others is determining the torque you can apply to a joint and have the impact loosen it. As with the measurement of torque there is no standard for doing this so all variables mentioned above apply.
I mention this because there appears to be a lot of apples and oranges numbers being compared in parts of this thread.