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Thanks guys, been dreaming of this ship since my buddy put his up in 2004... I am planning on 30ft radiant tube heater, on the back wall. roughly another 800 bucks. I posted earlier that I am still shocked that the local gas company found a bi-law stating anything under 100ft is free, so they are doing the gas line and meter to the barn for free. The guy was really cool about it, said well technically its a second services, but they don't say only the first is free, so we'll do it for free..
 
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Pushed all the dirt back in the trench tonight and finished up all the ditch work, got the network cable into the basement and the junction box mounted outside. I decided to go with a junction box to switch to service cable because I didn't want to deal with running conduit all the way into my basement panel.

The basement panel is obnoxious DIY mess, that's an entire different project. Wires every where, no clamps on stuff, alarm system boxes, cable, phone, its a mess. Any electrician or code guru's see anything wrong with my wiring besides the 1.5 inch off the wall rule, please feel free to let me know!

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Final got the last of the main electrical done, snaked the dinosaur cable into the panel in the basement, clamped her down and got the breaker installed. Flipped it on, it didn't pop, so must have done something right.

Went out and started putting up some of the 48 bulbs up, then power washed the floor to get it prepped for sealing the concrete.

No lights, it was daylight out, just in the middle of a thunder storm.
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one light
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Four lights
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Entire shop.. Seems to be plenty good, might put two more in over the work bench area so i dont have any shadows when I am working.
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For the outside outlets I use the large plastic or metal covers that allow a cord to be plugged in but still close.

I think that is code now.

I cannot stand sideways receptacles. My house is full of them, log house, only real way to do it. The previous owner/amateur homebuilder used the cheapest **** receptacles he could find, and then installed them willy-nilly, without any regard for which way they were turned. I installed a whole new house full of Leviton commercial screw clamp backwire receptacles and installed them with the ground pin to the left, thus the neutral to the top. Switches were just as bad, had to go around and turn them so all were to the left being off, and the right being on.

I didn't see any drip loops in the wires either, at the boxes. Don't recall if its required, but sure is a good idea.

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I was going to ask why you didn't unload the interior supplies at the shop. Now I see why, you're sealing the garage floor.

You're making great progress and I'm impressed with the trench dug with the front bucket, awesome. :beer:
 

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Do have enough light? I am looking at putting up (12) 6 bulb lights in a 42 x 48 with 12' ceilings. Looks good!
 

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Great build and I always enjoy seeing someone do as much of the work themselves. Always helps mentally and financially! Can't wait to see the rest of the progress!
 
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Do have enough light? I am looking at putting up (12) 6 bulb lights in a 42 x 48 with 12' ceilings. Looks good!

I think its plenty, wont really know till I am working on a car or truck. It was certainly a great start for sure, I have one extra box up in the ceiling for adding future lights over the bench for direct work lighting.
 

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:tantrum2: ANyone that has started a garage this year and it's already done....*****!!!!!!!!

Enough of my rant though.

ph1gering......Very, very nice build indeed. I'm also ready to build mine myself, since I can't find one ambitious person to build mine, but my neighbor's son, said he would help me anytime I wanted it, as he would like to learn. I'm leaning towards a pole building, and it may have to be a little smaller than I anticipated, but in lieu of that......

Do you know what size holes you had dug for your post? Aside from that, and I've never built a pole barn, but I know that I can lay it out for the holes, I know I can square it, and with the neighbors son, I know I can get the poles set. Everything else would be fairly straightforward.

I may have some other questions, but for now, that will be it.

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:tantrum2: ANyone that has started a garage this year and it's already done....*****!!!!!!!!

Enough of my rant though.

ph1gering......Very, very nice build indeed. I'm also ready to build mine myself, since I can't find one ambitious person to build mine, but my neighbor's son, said he would help me anytime I wanted it, as he would like to learn. I'm leaning towards a pole building, and it may have to be a little smaller than I anticipated, but in lieu of that......

Do you know what size holes you had dug for your post? Aside from that, and I've never built a pole barn, but I know that I can lay it out for the holes, I know I can square it, and with the neighbors son, I know I can get the poles set. Everything else would be fairly straightforward.

I may have some other questions, but for now, that will be it.

TIA

They used an 18" auger, went down 54". Then the put 80lb bag of concrete in each hole, then a 8x12x4 solid block on top of that. then dropped the pole in. Then filled the hole while leveling / squaring the pole. I think this is probably the most difficult part of the build getting everything square and at the right distance. other than the trusses, i think that's the hardest part. When they left i went around and watered each post heavily to settle the dirt, it dropped almost a foot on each hole and i did that twice.

For me the decision was easy, I priced it doing it my self and with 10 companies. The company I went with was only 4 grand more than my cost, it would have taken me every weekend for 5-6 weeks and having to rent equipment and bug friends/family. That was before adding extra concrete, and the ceiling, put me over budget 4 grand

I saved the family and friends so I can bug them to do electrical, hang insulation, and other stuff.. :)
 
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Back from 2 weeks off, time to get back at it.. They came and sealed the concrete today, I had asked about sealing myself, but they would only knock 100 bucks off. I figure i'd let them put there sealer down as the first pass will absorb the most. I plan on going over the entire thing my self again with a second coat today.

Here is the sealer down:
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Here are my decals going in each bay, then going to seal over them.
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After I got the vinyl down, I started putting down the sealer. 10gallons I was able to do 2 coats, it dries to the touch in 10 minutes and safe to walk on in 1 hour. Did one coat then an hour later did another coat, used probably only 8 gallons because the concrete guys did one coat earlier.. Really happy how it came out and even more excited I can start bringing some stuff in!!!!

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After the second coat was done:
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Thanks!!.. I am not sure if they are going to last or not.. The acrylic dries so fast it made the vinyl crinkle a little or had some mild reaction to it, so once it completely cures I am going to put another coat over the top of just the decals. I wasn't 100% sure how it was going to work out, but couldn't find anything on it so went for it. I am sure they will last if I am careful around them, but sliding a jack stand or anything on it probably will catch it..

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Didn't get much done this weekend, had to do brakes on two cars and a wheel hub, then a car show and grad party.. Only had 2 hours out there.

Got all my supplies moved out to the shop that were in my garage.
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Started the insulation, but didn't like doing it that way, just wasn't sitting right.
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Switched to running it vertical and goes a little easier, one bay down 15 to go..
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I also scored a two pallet rack shelving units and a monster all steel (2000lb) bench that my uncle made about 10 years ago, thing is a beast, just needs a coat of paint..
 

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Got all my lights mounted and wire ran into ceiling to connect later:
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Recent discussion brought this to mind. I recall seeing this pic and thinking at the time, "those lights are mounted directly to the ceiling". Not sure what they are, they kinda look like Lithiona I-beam models or a similar knock-off. In any case, are they actually approved for mounting directly to a surface? Many fixtures of this type require spacing from the surface for cooling of the ballast.

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Still watchin. Like the decals, care to share where you scored 'em? I don't think the floor will be as slippery as it looks. Man you're getting a lot done. I am jealous, mine is moving so slow.
 
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Recent discussion brought this to mind. I recall seeing this pic and thinking at the time, "those lights are mounted directly to the ceiling". Not sure what they are, they kinda look like Lithiona I-beam models or a similar knock-off. In any case, are they actually approved for mounting directly to a surface? Many fixtures of this type require spacing from the surface for cooling of the ballast.

Charles

I debated back and forth on direct mount, but used chains, and only have about 1" gap. Main reason was i was doing the work my self, so I chained the lights in the house. Then mounted the hooks and drilled hole through the ceiling for the pig tail I put on each light. Then simply walked up the latter and hung one side then the other. On the plus side if i have ballast go on me I have enough slack to just have them hang off one side and can can just work on it while its hanging.
 
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Still watchin. Like the decals, care to share where you scored 'em? I don't think the floor will be as slippery as it looks. Man you're getting a lot done. I am jealous, mine is moving so slow.

I can't remember the name off hand, it was an online decal place. I wasn't happy with them at all, i submitted my order then after i submit it they tell me that the shop is closed for two weeks do to yearly upgrades. So it put me 3 weeks behind.. Cost 30 each decal and they were good quality..
 
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Only got out there for another hour today, but was able to get one more section almost done. Even the wife climbed the latter today to help nail the upper boards..

Rest of the boards up
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Next bay done, minus the two upper corners..
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Still watchin. Like the decals, care to share where you scored 'em? I don't think the floor will be as slippery as it looks. Man you're getting a lot done. I am jealous, mine is moving so slow.

You're just soooo jealous of those Chevy bow-ties BF, I know it must make you want to start a Chevy farm. :D


Only jokin' BF. :beer:
 
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