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Wage we need to set up one for Carlyle tools.
Since there putting out service carts that look like Matco's, along with impact guns, and hex screwdrivers that look like s&k/matco style.
When i work on monday, i'll grab the napa shop catalog and do some hunting.


And isn't the Mac bolstered scraper set(PKES3PTB), and Snap-On( PKNC300) the same, besides the striking caps size?
 
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Wage we need to set up one for Carlyle tools.
Since there putting out service carts that look like Matco's, along with impact guns, and hex screwdrivers that look like s&k/matco style.
When i work on monday, i'll grab the napa shop catalog and do some hunting.
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So far the only Carlyle crossover has been the MAC/Corwell 100T roto ratchets. I'm sure there are more, since they have the same air tool manufacturer as Matco (as well as everything else Matco and MAC have been outsourcing).

As far as service carts and tool storage; That's something I definitely want to expand on, since most service carts are available through other companies, and even the MAC/Proto boxes where the only difference is the badge stuck to the front. Just need to dig up some part numbers.
 
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Added to my prior post, befor yours bro.
While you were typing lol.
 
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Okay so I messed up and posted on the stickied thread but I have the following info:

Matco has all their holesaws, holesaw arbors, holesaw kits and cutoff wheel arbor made by the M.K. Morse company in canton ohio. I know cause I used to work there. Pretty sure they make their hacksaw blades and reciprocating blade as well.

Matco has their Allan bit sockets made by wright tool.
 
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I may be wrong on this, but it looks to me like the ATD-277 117 piece tap and die kit is the same as the Irwin/Matco/Snap-on/Mac/Cornwell 117 piece kit. It looks like at some point the blow-molded case changed. If it is the same set, it's significantly cheaper than even the Irwin.

ATD
Irwin
Matco
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Cornwell
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Impact Sockets:
23766 3/8" Pinless Impact Universal Joint - Matco BUP2BB, Armstrong 19-947
23765 1/2" Pinless Impact Universal Joint - Matco CUP2BB, Armstrong 20-947

Pick Sets:
CHP4-L 4 Piece Hook & Pick Set - Ullman CHP4-L, Matco CHP4L, MAC PSCHP4L

Pliers:
42454 3pc Flexible Line Clamp Pliers Set - Matco LCS3
45433 2pc Ergonomic Adjustable Pliers Set - Knipex 9K 00 80 25 (Cobras)
47412 8" Internal/External Retaining Ring Pliers - Channellock 927

47050* Mini Hose Pinch Pliers - Imperial HP54, KD 3791, SK 7601, Blue Point PHP3, Matco HP54
47051* 9" Hose Pinch off Pliers - Imperial HP55, KD 3792, SK 7602, Blue Point PHP1, Matco HP55
47060* Heavy Duty Pinch Pliers- Imperial HP56, KD 3793, SK 7603, Blue Point PHP2, Matco HP56
*All 3 in Craftsman set 74Z706

950465 6pc Camlock Retaining Ring Pliers Set - Imperial Stride IR-6CK, Snap-On PRH406, Matco MST4306, SK 7780, Urrea 370L, Armstrong 68-056

950464 12pc Quarter Turn Internal/External Snap Ring Pliers Set - Imperial Stride IR-12K, SK 7612, Proto 360B, Snap On (BP) SRPC112 , MAC PK1250, Matco MST1225, Urrea 360B

47394 3pc Quick Switch Snap Ring Pliers Set - Lang 1465, Channellock RT-3, Matco SPRC3A, Snap On PRH503, Wright 9H1265K

Screwdrivers:
49020 6pc Professional Screwdriver Set - SK 86330, Armstrong 66-621
49300 5pc Professional Screwdriver Set - SK 86331
49305 4pc Professional Stubby Screwdriver Set - SK 86335
49302 7pc Professional Torx Set - SK 86333
41612 Professional Scratch Awl - Armstrong 66-450

Pry bars:
43278 3pc Hard Handle Pry Bar Set (12", 17", 25") - Wilde 3-SQ.B/CL, Master Mechanic 134484
43275 12" Hard Handle Pry Bar - Wilde 7B
43276 17" Hard Handle Pry Bar - Wilde 12B
43277 25" Hard Handle Pry Bar - Wilde 18B
43285 31" Hard Handle Pry Bar - Wilde 24B
43286 36" Hard Handle Pry Bar - Wilde 28B

61355-998 3pc Professional Pry Bar Set - Mayhew 61355

Pick Sets:
CHP4-L 4pc Hook & Pick Set - Ullman CHP4-L, Matco CHP4L , MAC PSCHP4L

Air Tools:
19905 1/2" Professional Impact Wrench - Ingersoll Rand 2131

Specialty Tools:
40804 25 Blade Master Feeler Gauge Set - Proto J000AA, MAC FG002
52060 5pc Bolt Out Set - Irwin 394001
52061 5pc Bolt Out Upgrade Set - Irwin 394002
52166 10pc Low-Profile Twist Socket Set - Matco TSSLP10C
52105 40pc Master Rethreading Kit - Kastar 972, Snap-On RTD40, MAC TRCOMBO
9712750 48pc Master Rethreading Kit - Kastar 971, Snap-On RTD48, MAC TRCOMBO-48

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Screwdrivers
J1208SCP 8pc Duratek Combination Screwdriver Set - MAC SDB8CR

Pliers:
J278GXL 8" XL Series Slip Joint Pliers - Wilde G263FP.NP/CC
J260SGXL 10" XL Series Groove Joint Pliers - Wilde G271FP.NP/CC
J228GXL 8" XL Series Needle Nose Pliers - Wilde#
J209GXL 7" XL Series Heavy Duty Diagonal Cutting Pliers - Wilde 4276/CS

J360A 6pc Convertable Retaining Ring Plier Set - Imperial Stride IR-090K, Armstrong 68-015
360B 12pc Quarter Turn Internal/External Snap Ring Plier Set - Imperial Stride IR-12K, SK 7612, Matco MST1225, Snap-On SRPC112, MAC PK1250

Specialty Tools:
JFE96030 12pc Terminal Tool Kit - Sealy VS920, Snap On TT12KT, Matco TTK031, MAC TT96030, Cornwell JS96033
J000AA 25 Blade Master Feeler Gauge - Craftsman 40804, MAC FG002
J000BR 6 Blade Non-Magnetic Feeler Gauge - Snap-On FB325A, Matco FG23A
J00MM25 25 Blade Metric Feeler Gauge - KD 2274, Matco MG25, MAC FG030, Cornwell RBFG30MM


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Screwdrivers:
86330 6pc Cushion Grip (Pro) Screwdriver Set - Craftsman 49020, Armstrong 66-621
86331 5pc Cushion Grip (Pro) Screwdriver Set - Craftsman 49300
86335 4pc Cushion Grip (Pro) Stubby Screwdriver Set - Craftsman 49305
86333 7pc Cushion Grip (Pro) Torx Set - Craftsman 49302

Pliers:
7601 Mini Hose Pinch Pliers - Craftsman 47050*, Imperial HP54, KD 3791, Snap-On PHP3, Matco HP54
7602 9" Hose Pinch off Pliers - Craftsman 47051*, Imperial HP55, KD 3792, Snap-On PHP1, Matco HP55
7603 Heavy Duty Pinch Pliers - Craftsman 47060*, Imperial HP56, KD 3793, Snap-On PHP2, Matco HP56
*All 3 in Craftsman set 74Z706

7612 12pc Quarter Turn Internal/External Snap Ring Pliers Set - Imperial Stride IR-12K, Snap-On SRPC112, Proto 360B, Matco MST1225, MAC PK1250, Craftsman 950464, Urrea 360B
7780 6pc Camlock Retaining Ring Pliers Set - Imperial Stride IR-6CK, Matco MST4306, Snap-On PRH406, Urrea 370L, Craftsman 950465, Armstrong 68-056


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Currently, I will continue to leave off other "Industrial" brands (Williams, Armstrong) since the majority of their tools are only available in more expensive truck brand versions.
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I've bought more than a dozen tools, thanks to this list thread. Thank you.

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Okay so I messed up and posted on the stickied thread but I have the following info:

Matco has all their holesaws, holesaw arbors, holesaw kits and cutoff wheel arbor made by the M.K. Morse company in canton ohio. I know cause I used to work there. Pretty sure they make their hacksaw blades and reciprocating blade as well.

Matco has their Allan bit sockets made by wright tool.
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Thanks for the info. I'll have to look into some part numbers to get on the list.:thumbup:

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I may be wrong on this, but it looks to me like the ATD-277 117 piece tap and die kit is the same as the Irwin/Matco/Snap-on/Mac/Cornwell 117 piece kit. It looks like at some point the blow-molded case changed. If it is the same set, it's significantly cheaper than even the Irwin.

ATD
Irwin
Matco
Snap-on
Cornwell
Nesco
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I looked into this a bit, and I believe the ATD and Nesco sets are overseas made vs the USA made Irwin sets. If anyone is able to confirm or deny that's the case, I'd appreciate it.

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I've bought more than a dozen tools, thanks to this list thread. Thank you.
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Awesome to hear, and glad everyone was able to help!
 
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Also, just about all of the testers (compression, fuel injection, leakdown), etc. that you see on the "big guys" tools trucks are typically made by Starr-Hoffman/A&E Tool Company. Used to be in Lindenhurst (LI), NY, but now moved to Racine, WI.

They also make the "S" circle tools for Sears (A&E did) and for a while, the Sears Craftsman ratcheting wrenches.
 
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Thanks for the info. I'll have to look into some part numbers to get on the list.:
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Holesaw Arbors:
Matco number..........morse number
HSM24K.……….……M24K
HSMPD4…….……MPD4
HSM45P...........M45P
HSM44N...........M44N

Holesaw kits:
Problem with these is Morse packages special kits for matco that are slightly different from the ones morse offers. The numbers I am providing are close but not exact matches
HSV7K.............AV05M.....arbor is different. Morse kit does not have M44N.
HSVK13K..........AV100 or AV08E

We were also making holesaws for RIDGID,Makita,ACE and several other companies when I worked there.
 
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Hacksaw Frames

MATCO MORSE
HS14----------HHBF04

The kicker to this is that Morse buys them from someone else and resells them to Matco. I am not sure who the "true" manufacturer is.


Hacksaw blades
Matco Morse
HSB12H--------HHB1224T10 (24 TPI. 10 pack part #)
HSB12HS-------HHB1232T10 (32 TPI. 10 pack part #)


Single holesaws
Matco Morse
HSV10--------AV10
HSV12--------AV12
HSV14--------AV14
HSV16--------AV16
HSV18--------AV18
HSV20--------AV20
HSV22--------AV22
HSV24--------AV24
HSV26--------AV26
HSV28--------AV28
HSV32--------AV32
HSV36--------AV36
HSV40--------AV40
HSV48--------AV48
 
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Anyone know if this blue point is a rebrand?

Snap on sp500

Thanks guys:thumbup:
 

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Matco master bushing driver set MST4410 $112.55

OTC 4410 $57.81 - Same case, same part number, different sticker -
 
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I'm looking for a specific tool, made in USA, a truck tool equivalent.

a cooling system pressure tester , the hand pump style, with heavy duty truck cap adapters but also automotive adapters. If anyone can recommend me anything it would be appreciated. Thanks!


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techenthusiast said:
I'm looking for a specific tool, made in USA, a truck tool equivalent.

a cooling system pressure tester , the hand pump style, with heavy duty truck cap adapters but also automotive adapters. If anyone can recommend me anything it would be appreciated. Thanks!
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This should fit the bill.

Deluxe Cooling System Pressure Tester
Matco PTK70888 - $214.95
Craftsman 70888 - $107.99
 
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Couple of additions for you...

MATCO SGRRCLM10T - 10pc (10mm-19mm) METRIC 12 POINT REVERSIBLE COMBINATION PRO-SWING™ RATCHETING WRENCH SET = Armstrong 54-950

MATCO SGRRCL7T - 7pc (3/8 - 3/4) SAE 12 POINT REVERSIBLE COMBINATION PRO-SWING WRENCH SET = Armstrong 28-900

Bluepoint BTCP500 - Brake Caliper Press = Kastar/Lang 279

Snap On RTD48 - 48 pc. SAE & Metric Thread Restorer Kit = Kastar/Lang 971, Craftsman 971 2750
 
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Both are old as the hills (actually just late 70's I believe) but:

Matco BR8N ratchet is identical to the Husky CB-45 except for the shape of the direction lever.
Even the guts interchange. I have one of each, and swapped the guts just to see. Did that 30+ years ago, and both still work fine.

So, choose this:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Matco-3-8-D...1609771378&pt=Motors_Automotive_Tools&vxp=mtr

Or choose this:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/VTG-HUSKY-C...465?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3a96c57a49

or even this:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Husky-3-8-D...315?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item43cfe584eb
 
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Damn, you guys jumped on all kinds of stuff in the last day! I'll update the original posts ASAP. Thanks folks!
 
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abvw said:
Some of those "Williams" tools are considered to be obsolete Snap-On tools, not exactly an equivalent.
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I know this was discussed in years past, but I wonder how many of the OEM tools have slight variations -- maybe they’re significant or maybe they’re not. But it’s not unheard of for a company who contracts with an OEM to call out certain specifications in a tool that the OEM “house” brand might lack. That’s just something to be aware of. Whether it’s different material, different construction, modifications, parts, etc. Again, may or may not be a big deal, but just something to be aware of. I’ve seen a few examples where guys thought they were getting the same thing but there were differences in material and construction that really affected the price.
 
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Vinko said:
I know this was discussed in years past, but I wonder how many of the OEM tools have slight variations -- maybe they’re significant or maybe they’re not. But it’s not unheard of for a company who contracts with an OEM to call out certain specifications in a tool that the OEM “house” brand might lack. That’s just something to be aware of. Whether it’s different material, different construction, modifications, parts, etc. Again, may or may not be a big deal, but just something to be aware of. I’ve seen a few examples where guys thought they were getting the same thing but there were differences in material and construction that really affected the price.
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Case in point would be Western Forge adjustables... Big difference between the Craftsman and Proto.

Most people ignore the "made to spec for xyz" part and just declare it the same when it may not be...
 
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Pray tell what are the differences between the Craftsman and Proto? I have the Craftsmans and think they are really nice.
 
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Pray tell what are the differences between the Craftsman and Proto? I have the Craftsmans and think they are really nice.
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The jaws, I have a 10" and 12" in both. Dimensionally the same and look identical. The jaws are much tighter on the Proto and where the edges of the jaws on the Craftsman version have started to round over the Proto's are still sharp square edges. Both have about the same amount of use on them now.

The jaws are ever so slightly out of parallel on Craftsman also (There may have been a pipe involved) but the Proto's are fine with the same treatment. The Proto's also have clik-stop which is really nice. Both have the same WF stamped in the handle.
 
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EXDMS48 48pc Master Extractor Set - Irwin 3101010

Is not a direct equivalent the Snap-on set uses a spline extractor this Irwin set uses the standard twisty type extractors.
 
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Vinko said:
I know this was discussed in years past, but I wonder how many of the OEM tools have slight variations -- maybe they’re significant or maybe they’re not. But it’s not unheard of for a company who contracts with an OEM to call out certain specifications in a tool that the OEM “house” brand might lack. That’s just something to be aware of. Whether it’s different material, different construction, modifications, parts, etc. Again, may or may not be a big deal, but just something to be aware of. I’ve seen a few examples where guys thought they were getting the same thing but there were differences in material and construction that really affected the price.
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Ruger_556 said:
Case in point would be Western Forge adjustables... Big difference between the Craftsman and Proto.

Most people ignore the "made to spec for xyz" part and just declare it the same when it may not be...
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I think there was a rep from Armstrong on here a while ago -- maybe around the time that they were making the toolkits for US Service vehicles. Anyway, he mentioned some ways in which certain sockets “made by the same people” might differ. That is, material or treatment of material in addition to other things. Again, maybe minor differences for many.
 
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techenthusiast said:
I'm looking for a specific tool, made in USA, a truck tool equivalent.

a cooling system pressure tester , the hand pump style, with heavy duty truck cap adapters but also automotive adapters. If anyone can recommend me anything it would be appreciated. Thanks!


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Stant makes the Snap-ON one.
 
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This is awesome. Someone should compile this and make a phone app so you can get on these tool trucks and laugh at the driver when he quotes you.
"Yea right Dooood. $55 for an $8 Stanley hammer."
 
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Tronyadorable said:
This is awesome. Someone should compile this and make a phone app so you can get on these tool trucks and laugh at the driver when he quotes you.
"Yea right Dooood. $55 for an $8 Stanley hammer."
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That's a great idea! I'd pay for that app.
 
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Oh, i just noticed. The snappy have a ball end. The ones above do not.

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