The VISES of Garage Journal
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GETRIDAONE
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There was a work bench on CL about a week ago that was a very dark picture. It include a vise that you could only see the back of. I could see the vise base overhanging the swivel base like the Starrett does. I never got around to calling about it and wondered if he had bought the bench & vise. Curiosity was killing me so I called and he said he had had the vise for about five years, so it wasn't the same one. I am still wondering what I missed
Oh well off to the basement to work on the never ending Parker project.JeremyBurke
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I can see paying those kinda prices for vises on a stump but for a vise on a ugly plywood box I'll pass.
oldldh
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If you wants the big bucks---
Ya gots to has a stump...
FMC1959
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My first attempt:
Finally got myself a vise (I dont know how I have gotten by without one). I think I got a good deal on it for 30 bucks. It's a Yost 3" machinist vise. Here is my first crack at refurbishment. I know its not true to its original color, but I had this paint on hand. What say ye?
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What should be painted is done nicely and what should be bare metal is. Both simple, both beautiful!Question for y'all:
A Columbian 604 M, similar to this guy from Post #2605, that looks to be in decent shape from the Craigslist pic. Asking price is $125, too high, low? It seems a bit high, but the vise market out this way is kinda skimpy.
A Columbian 604 M, similar to this guy from Post #2605, that looks to be in decent shape from the Craigslist pic. Asking price is $125, too high, low? It seems a bit high, but the vise market out this way is kinda skimpy.
Mark in Indiana
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Finally got myself a vise (I dont know how I have gotten by without one). I think I got a good deal on it for 30 bucks. It's a Yost 3" machinist vise. Here is my first crack at refurbishment. I know its not true to its original color, but I had this paint on hand. What say ye?
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Great looking restore. Looks like you have a very good multitask vise.
Soon you will be saying " I don't know how I got by with less than 11 vises!"
FMC1959
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I have 3 Columbians, including a 204 1/2 that I like. I thinks many will tell you that Columbians are not the most stout vise, and I agree, but still nice vises.
At the end of the day it is your call, how much you want to spend vs wait. Personally I think that price not a bit high, but pretty high for a 4", unless it is perfectly restored. If you can wait, you should find a better deal.
At the end of the day it is your call, how much you want to spend vs wait. Personally I think that price not a bit high, but pretty high for a 4", unless it is perfectly restored. If you can wait, you should find a better deal.
macgee
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I concur, could not have said it better
FMC1959
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Great looking restore. Looks like you have a very good multitask vise.
Soon you will be saying " I don't know how I got by with less than 11 vises!"
What he saidCraptain
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Soon you will be saying " I don't know how I got by with less than 11 vises!"
Oh NO!!! I only have 7 so far.
jaker10
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http://peoria.craigslist.org/tls/4594278854.html Check out the price he has on this Columbian. I want what he's Smokin. I wish him good luck!!!!!! $700.00 for a 6 inch.
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DetroitDIESEL444
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See this thread for the story behind my free record vise.
http://garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=256904
http://garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=256904
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joe.striper
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Outlawmws
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Great looking restore. Looks like you have a very good multitask vise.
Soon you will be saying " I don't know how I got by with less than 11 vises!"
Yeah, pretty much have to be into double digits...
Hmmm would it a problem to be into triple digits?
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oldldh
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Hmmm would it a problem to be into triple digits?
Bubba, you'd need a helluva chain!!!
zoomieport
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Yeah, pretty much have to be into double digits...
Hmmm would it a problem to be into triple digits?
I don't see a problem with triple digits at all...
Outlawmws
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Whats that old song about 99 somethings on the wall? 
blacknblue
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Great looking restore. Looks like you have a very good multitask vise.
Soon you will be saying " I don't know how I got by with less than 11 vises!"
I'm already scouring the internet for more!
joe.striper
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http://longisland.craigslist.org/tls/4595506859.html
Guy is selling his vise collection on Long Island. Has a Craftsman 5198 but too $$ for me. Lots of other stuff. I'm going there on business tomorrow and Friday and I may try to stop in and see his stuff in person. See anything I should buy??
Guy is selling his vise collection on Long Island. Has a Craftsman 5198 but too $$ for me. Lots of other stuff. I'm going there on business tomorrow and Friday and I may try to stop in and see his stuff in person. See anything I should buy??
oldldh
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Joe---You just scared me out of five years---and I can't spare them...
No 5198 in the collection...
5218 is as close as he's got...
balane
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My heart skipped a beat when I read it.
joe.striper
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My bad, ive got to wear my glasses. It was late...sorry.
Craptain
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Joe you know it was a deliberate bait just for Oldie.
I have to say his prices seem pretty reasonable. Especially if there is any negotiating room.
Craptain
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Nice score Robert. I think that is the first bench built from block I ever saw. It should be solid. Do the lags go all the way into the block or just the wood?
va.grouseman
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Joe----I have a Grand-Master that I paid more than $50.00 for with shipping. No regrets. I was well pleased. And that is a really nice looking Reed Craftsman, would dress up to the 9s. Those are not flea market or estate prices, but he has been a collector and he knows value. But you've got to stomp your feet and demand some wiggle room.
Outlawmws
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Joe you know it was a deliberate bait just for Oldie.
I have to say his prices seem pretty reasonable. Especially if there is any negotiating room.
oldldh >>>
joe.striper
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I spoke to him this morning. He has a lot more and just got tired of listing them. Additionally he says he just buys them and doesnt do anything with them. I may go down with a finished vise and try to barter a bit. So I ask again, for a noob like me, what should I pick up to build out my collection? Manufacturer? Model? Is that craftsman overpriced?
GETRIDAONE
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Just take a pocket full of money. You will know what you want when you see it. Everyone likes different brands and types and I don't think you are going to get rich collecting vises to sell them later. Only you know what you are willing to pay for a vise and be OK with it. Joe you seem to be good at making a deal so go get a bunch and we will be waiting on the pictures
Oh, my.....vise collectors???.....well, I suppose thats reasonable, the vises will eventually be more useful to someone than are 'collectible' old postage-stamps or decorative china-ware..... : )
A thought comes to mind, so I'll ask.......about ten years ago, we bought out the 'tool crib miscellany' when a local business closed down......we got the things we actually wanted, a nice new unused 12" Troyke rotary table and a Hardinge dividing head set, but had to 'take it all', including some stray Kurt Anglock mill vise swivel bases.
I very rarely actually use the swivel base for my Anglock mill vise, and few others seem to want those bases, these days.
Is it feasible to re-purpose the Anglock swivel bases, by making an adaptor-plate, to turn the Record/Paramo class of common bench vises into the swivelling pattern, and would this be desirable?
I've got one of the heavy swivel bases for an 8" Anglock, and a couple of them for the common 6" size, sitting in storage here, and would make someone a very good deal on them if such a 're-purpose' would be desirable. (those were expensive, originally, and high quality tooling.....likely obsolete in this CNC age, to be sure, but I just can't bring myself to send them to scrap)
cheers
Carla
A thought comes to mind, so I'll ask.......about ten years ago, we bought out the 'tool crib miscellany' when a local business closed down......we got the things we actually wanted, a nice new unused 12" Troyke rotary table and a Hardinge dividing head set, but had to 'take it all', including some stray Kurt Anglock mill vise swivel bases.
I very rarely actually use the swivel base for my Anglock mill vise, and few others seem to want those bases, these days.
Is it feasible to re-purpose the Anglock swivel bases, by making an adaptor-plate, to turn the Record/Paramo class of common bench vises into the swivelling pattern, and would this be desirable?
I've got one of the heavy swivel bases for an 8" Anglock, and a couple of them for the common 6" size, sitting in storage here, and would make someone a very good deal on them if such a 're-purpose' would be desirable. (those were expensive, originally, and high quality tooling.....likely obsolete in this CNC age, to be sure, but I just can't bring myself to send them to scrap)
cheers
Carla
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Picked up a Craftsman/Rock Island 5162 with a welding table yesterday. Vise was in amazing condition overall and was used by one guy it's entire life.
Same guy built the welding table. 2x4 ft 1/2" plate on top and another on bottom with really thick 4" tubes, solid bar braces, 6" casters and floor brake. Bought as a set for $150. Excited about using it!
Same guy built the welding table. 2x4 ft 1/2" plate on top and another on bottom with really thick 4" tubes, solid bar braces, 6" casters and floor brake. Bought as a set for $150. Excited about using it!
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macgee
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Carla,
Good idea, Those could possibly work out great for someone who wants to convert a non swivel bench vise or drill press vise like a N-model Wilton or a angled Palmgen into a gucci swivel vise as long as the base bolt slots and grounded surface areas line up correctly with the vises mounting holes and base.
While those bases are excellent, very well made and I'm sure hardened but I'm not sure they were designed to take on forces so far away from the bases, a large tall 6" vise could possibly produce considerably more leverage/loads than a low height Kurt type vise, I maybe completely wrong about this. They would totally fine for a drill press vise.
I do know most machinist remove these bases from there Kurt vises, that's what I did. I took mine to a friends shop to give it to him, he pointed to the corner of his shop where there were about 6 anglock bases laying on the floor covered in dust, he couldn't sell them for $30. He was ready to take them to the scrap yard.
It would great if these bases could be repurposed.
Is this what your talking about?
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jsharpphoto
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I got my 8 inch Tekton in the mail today. It's a monster for sure. Here is a shot of it using my hand for scale, and then one of it mounted on the bench.
FMC1959
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"Nothing like that new vise smell in your shop, smells like victory"
Outlawmws
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Carla, you wouldn't happen to have a base for a 4" Palmgren would you? I've got one san's base....
oldldh
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Swivelin' B@#tards!!!
If it ain't fixed, it ain't straight!!!
Of course, if I had a 5197/5198 I would join the club...
If it ain't fixed, it ain't straight!!!
Of course, if I had a 5197/5198 I would join the club...
Outlawmws
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Hmmm all these swivlers, and you are "fixed"
I know what that means with dogs!
I know what that means with dogs!
jakemac
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Hmmm all these swivlers, and you are "fixed"
I know what that means with dogs!
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