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I debated back and forth on direct mount, but used chains, and only have about 1" gap. Main reason was i was doing the work my self, so I chained the lights in the house. Then mounted the hooks and drilled hole through the ceiling for the pig tail I put on each light. Then simply walked up the latter and hung one side then the other. On the plus side if i have ballast go on me I have enough slack to just have them hang off one side and can can just work on it while its hanging.


The chains are a good idea Ph1, when you work alone you always have to plan for one-man maintenance. :thumbup:
 
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How will that stuff hold up to Brakleen or similar stuff when sprayed on to the sealer ?

Is the insulation just hung by the top ?


Not sure Eric how it will hold up.. I'll let you know after the first brake job or gasline change.. I look at it as something i'll re-coat everyother year like the driveway, maybe stretch it 2-3 years if its holding up. 5 gallons is 139 bucks and will re-coat the entire floor. I dont think thats too bad to keep it looking good.

The insulation is just stapled at the top, its so thick that when i put outside 2x4's on it compresses it a bit. I left one un-stapled, just to see if it would stay in place and it wont move unless i actually pull on it. then i tape the seam all the way down as well.
 
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This is the bench and racking I picked up. Just needs a coat of paint..

My uncle doubled up the racking welding two piece together not sure why as it weak point is still the cross member, but it's beastly.:
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Then the bench is 1/4 steel plate, perfect for pounding, welding and setting up welding jigs if i need to.
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The best thing is how heavy this thing is, it wont move when pounding on it or prying something in the vise. My old wooden one drove me nuts.
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Not sure Eric how it will hold up.. I'll let you know after the first brake job or gasline change.. I look at it as something i'll re-coat everyother year like the driveway, maybe stretch it 2-3 years if its holding up. 5 gallons is 139 bucks and will re-coat the entire floor. I dont think thats too bad to keep it looking good.

The insulation is just stapled at the top, its so thick that when i put outside 2x4's on it compresses it a bit. I left one un-stapled, just to see if it would stay in place and it wont move unless i actually pull on it. then i tape the seam all the way down as well.

Good to hear on both. Once the snow flies, you'll be so happy with that place all insulated.


Love the new (to you) bench, looks well built and just a coat of paint will do wonders.
 
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He's got a 20 drawer Vidmar cabinet and an old school refrigerator size Lincoln welder that he wants to get rid of as well, so I told him I would take them for sure..
 

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Nice score with the bench Ph1g, and I noticed that the racking comes with a free thermometer. :)

Grab that cabinet & welder too - and don't forget to post pics.

Feel free to say "none of your business", but I hope that all is well with your uncle and that he is just retiring or down-sizing.
 
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Got another section done, thought I would show what i did to make the building air tight.

First I calked the entire building, the wainscoting gap and the floor got calked, took a 13 tubes of calk, but still cheaper than buying those foam pieces. Which had i know about i would have had them put on from the start.
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Then around the entire base I put just a small extra barrier of foam just to ensure it stops any air movement if i missed any gaps with the calk.
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Cutting the insulation, once I got the first bay done I marked the two lengths of insulation i need. So i just cut a peice and go hang it. works out well
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Got a ton done this weekend, with a lil help from the old lady and my old man stopped over as well.

One more section - Thursday
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The old man helping with the back wall
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This one you can see the center stiffiner I put in each section to give it more strength:
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Almost done
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back wall finished
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Ran the last 50amp 220 line for the welder today so I can insulate the last wall.
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Picture of the stiffiners I put in each section:
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Close up, simple left over 2x4's to attach to the outside perlins, really give the 2x4 some strength when putting them on there sides like that.
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One more section almost done
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The leak I found tonight in the attic after noticing some water in the shop, found three spots where it was leaking at a screw.
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Got my electrical inspected today, it passed with flying colors, said its one of the neatest DIY jobs he's seen, not sure if he was being nice or not but I am happy.

I do wonder though if these guys have to pass a test yearly to keep up to date, as he did say I didn't need to have it grounded at the shop and I have a 100amp breaker feeding the 100amp sub right now, which I think I suppose to be a 90amp.

Not complaining, because I did a ton of research, but for the people that just slap thing in and dont do it to code, an inspector is suppose to save them from themselves, not just glance and run..
 
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That's a tough call.. Go big and don't look back, I probably could have gotten away with a 30x30..

I priced both a 36x36 and 40x40 out, they were 1800 bucks different, it was a no brain-er for me.
 

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You don't need that much room for that Bronco do you? Haha

It'd be different if I only had 1.. ;)

That's a tough call.. Go big and don't look back, I probably could have gotten away with a 30x30..

I priced both a 36x36 and 40x40 out, they were 1800 bucks different, it was a no brain-er for me.

Yeh, our hangar is a 36x36 and it's close to perfec. That's what drove me to consider a 40x40.. I need to get it all priced out, as I'm sure that'll be the determiner.
 
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Pleasant surprise today when the gas company showed up and installed my gas line.. Didn't know they were coming and got it all for free..

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Insulation done, except the front wall, but wont take much to button that up.

Done and Done..
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My boy playing with the tape measure.
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Well because I am a *****! I made more work for myself by no planning properly.. I made the third girt up too low, I set the top of it at 48" not accounting for the how to attach the next board. So I had to rip off 1 1/2" inches of each piece of ply before being able to mount it. Got them all cut but ran out of screws, was only able to get the two sides done, not the back wall.

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I am also starting to regret the 33 outlets I put in, gawd what a pain in the *** that's going to be to install the uppers panels around..
 

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Well because I am a *****! I made more work for myself by no planning properly.. I made the third girt up too low, I set the top of it at 48" not accounting for the how to attach the next board. So I had to rip off 1 1/2" inches of each piece of ply before being able to mount it. Got them all cut but ran out of screws, was only able to get the two sides done, not the back wall.

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On you next row of plywood stagger the end joints by 4' and to get the benefit of the plywood as a sheer wall use a deck screw instead of drywall screws.
 
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The next are going vertical I think, its a perfect 8' to the top, so I am betting on my sheets being a 1/8th in shorter than 8ft to fit.. Great advice to stagger the joints.. I am using exterior deck screws 2"inchers..
 
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Make yourself a template for cutting out the outlet holes. Measure the center of the outlet and transfer to the new panel. Clamp the template on and cut.
Build is looking good!
 
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Template made.... I also got the back screwed down and in place tonight. Now on to picking out what I am going to do for the top half. I am leaning towards Smart Siding / T11 for the top. I can't decided if I wanna try the new MDF style one or just use the actual wood one.

What do you guys think about them?
Composite like MDF -http://www.homedepot.com/p/Unbranded-96-in-Composite-Panel-Siding-29055/202190402

Pressed board/wood- http://www.homedepot.com/p/SmartSide-3-8-in-x-4-ft-x-8-ft-Siding-Panel-27874/100055901

Back side done..
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Template made.... I also got the back screwed down and in place tonight. Now on to picking out what I am going to do for the top half. I am leaning towards Smart Siding / T11 for the top. I can't decided if I wanna try the new MDF style one or just use the actual wood one.

What do you guys think about them?
Composite like MDF -http://www.homedepot.com/p/Unbranded-96-in-Composite-Panel-Siding-29055/202190402

Pressed board/wood- http://www.homedepot.com/p/SmartSide-3-8-in-x-4-ft-x-8-ft-Siding-Panel-27874/100055901

They are about the same price wise and probably quality too. I've used the smart panel stuff outside and it was decent stuff. Is there much of a weight difference ?
 
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Nope pretty much the same when I was moving them around in the depot last night, only difference is about 4 dollars cheaper for the mdf product.
 
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Didn't get much done this weekend, but picked up the upper wood for the interior walls, unloaded it and hung 1 piece to see how it looked.

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Looking good!
Really like the floor decals.
You must have found a good deal on that insulation to go through all the work seaming it together.
 
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