The Unofficial Vise Parts Swap Thread.

[shammatt]

Re: Rock Island broken lead screw. I've just added photos to my original posting (see posting No 193 above). Looking for replacement lead screw, just in case someone has a suitable broken vise with the needed lead screw and cast in place knob end on the lead screw.
Super thanks.
Steve

 

[EOC_Jason]

Steve - Maybe you can find a piece of all-thread on McMaster that would work? I think you would have better luck repairing what you have than finding a replacement. Did you ever contact the member KM_Scott? He has a bunch of old vise parts from broken vises.

 

[Outlawmws]

To the two people looking for a lead screw and a nut:

Contact Morgan vise and see if one of theirs has the same thread as you are looking for. The lead screw if the same thread is probably a easy replace. I know one guy managed a nut and with slight mods got his to work.

Reed, if they supply parts still, is another possible option. No clue how they are to work with.

 

[Grigg]

I have available for a good and reasonable offer the screw retaining collar from a Parker, probably 6". It came poorly adapted to a Reed 6" vice of mine. The large diameter of the collar it slips around is about 2-7/8" or 3". It uses two 3/8" bolts to hold it on. It's in fine shape.

 

[mechanoman1]

Many thanks! I'll give them a try.

 

[metalmagpie]

Hey, shammatt, if that were my lead screw I'd surely take a stab at welding it up, then setting it up in a lathe and picking up the Acme thread and rethreading the welded part. If you don't know anyone in Mt. Vernon who can do this (I'm assuming you can't, because if you could you probably would have already) it might be worth a trip down to the Seattle area. I know of several guys in my metalworking club who might be willing to take a crack at it.

If you want to follow up, email me offline at grant AT nwnative DOT us and I'll see what we can come up with.

metalmagpie

 

[skipskip]

FS: parts of a Chas Parker 974 1/2.

swivel base $20


MAR 188 by skipskip, on Flickr

dynamic jaw, the replaceable jaw has some issues $15


MAR 182 by skipskip, on Flickr

Static jaw , missing the replaceable jaw and has some issues inside $10


MAR 178 by skipskip, on Flickr


main nut looks good, but I'm not sure it's from this vise, seems sloopy in the jaw $15




MAR 184 by skipskip, on Flickr



more pictures here:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/skipskip/sets/72157642766588794/


Prices do NOT include shipping, hopefully these will fit in Flat rate boxes, send zip code for shipping quote

paypal preferred, but MO work too.

thanks

Skip

 

[8man]

I have a 1940's Athol 624X. See Grandads vise in this thread. I'm looking for a couple of parts. Anyone know where I can get them or have them made?

 

[Outlawmws]

I have a 1940's Athol 624X. See Grandads vise in this thread. I'm looking for a couple of parts. Anyone know where I can get them or have them made?

There are 11 pages of posts, do you really think everyone is going to go searching for it while you can't even bother to post what parts you need?

 

[AV tinker er]

I have a Wilton 500 that I found on craigslist. It is lacking the "nut" that the handle spins in and out of to move the dynamic jaw. Any ideas or parts laying around?

 

[bl00]

http://www.ereplacementparts.com/wilton-vise-parts-c-32774_155485.html




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[Iowa Farmer]

Does anyone happen to have a swivel base for a Reed 205 1/2 sitting in the back corner of a shop somewhere??? I know its a long shot, but thought I would ask.

Thanks!

 

[ffast65]

Wanted a columbian 506 spindle nut, bronze washer, and collar.
Also would love a rotatable base for the same.

Have a 506 m2 spindle, spindle nut, and collar to sell/ trade.
Thanks for looking

 

[neil222]

You may have seen the Parker 976 that i posted in the "Vises" thread. It had the slide welded up. During the cleanup, I can see that it is beginning to crack again. Let me know if you need any parts. It is the later Parker (Union manufacturing). Everything cleaned up quite well the only bad part is the dynamic jaw/slide. Everything else is good....swivel base, lead screw/nut, etc. Hopefully, the parts can help put another vise back into service. These are the only photos (before electrolysis) that I have right now.

 

[skipskip]

Prentiss 354 1/2 parts

swivel base, dynamic jaw, screw, homemade nut.
AMAY 092 by skipskip, on Flickr

AMAY 094 by skipskip, on Flickr

 

[AndrewH]

Hey guys,

I'm looking for a couple parts.. If anyone has any of these I'd very much appreciate it.

1x Wilton Swivel base for 4.5" (lots of models use the same base)
1x Chas Parker No 3 wrench
1x Chas Parker swivel bolt (No 3 size)
1x Chas Parker No 4 wrench

I would be very thankful if I was able to find any or all of them!

 

[balane]

You may have seen the Parker 976 that i posted in the "Vises" thread. It had the slide welded up. During the cleanup, I can see that it is beginning to crack again. Let me know if you need any parts. It is the later Parker (Union manufacturing). Everything cleaned up quite well the only bad part is the dynamic jaw/slide. Everything else is good....swivel base, lead screw/nut, etc. Hopefully, the parts can help put another vise back into service. These are the only photos (before electrolysis) that I have right now.

If you could PM me I'm interested in some parts from this vise. I messaged you as well. Thanks.

 

[bluebolt]

Columbian vise parts.

603 Machinists swivel base vise, this vise was so rusty I think it was in a flood LOL. The main handle and screw are missing. The dyanamic and static jaws are pitted but otherwise OK. The "T" jaw inserts are smooth. The main nut looks good and the swivel base and T-bolt look good, the clamping nut works but has serious rust pitting.

203 1/2 combo vise. The pipe jaws are mising. The main nut is bad and I used the swivel base for my 603 1/2. The castings look good and the "T" jaw inserts have a little life left in them. The main screw looks good and the handle is pretty straight. Note the ACME threads on this are 7/8, not 3/4 like www.viceparts.com shows which probably means this is an earlier one.

Still available.

 

[macgee]

Looking for a Spindle with Handle for a Athol Model: 614 1/2

Please send me a PM if you have one. I can give you specific measurements if needed. I'm not sure if the same spindle was used on other models.

I appreciate any help that can be offered.

Thanks

Thread Dia: .985", Shaft dia. 1.00", threads: 5 per inch (TPI)


Before:

After:

Pics of broken screw:

 

[macgee]

Ok, I think I'm giving up on trying got find a spindle for this vise, so I'm open to parting this vise out to anyone in need. I'm not crazy about trying to ship it (about 58 lbs without spindle) but I'm happy to meet up locally with a member.

Just shoot me a PM and we'll see if we can get a part that you need. I'm happy to donate but also happy to trade it for something else like a small vise.

Cheers

 

[skipskip]

Wow!!


giving up after 2 days?

I have been looking for one of these for a year and a half.

I'm thinking I need to have one made.


Skip

 

[macgee]

Wow!!


giving up after 2 days?

I have been looking for one of these for a year and a half.

I'm thinking I need to have one made.


Skip

No not quite giving up completely but throwing it out there in case someone really needs parts. There's three Athol 614 1/2 available right now on my local craigslist although they're all asking for a $100+ but there fairly common in my hood.

I have a wishlist of other vises as well so now I have a empty spot for a new vise.

My spindle is probably very salvageable, it's a clean break, You could easily jb weld it together to keep it straight, then drill a hole from the front and thread to bolt both pieces together, then maybe a little brazing to lock it in to make it usable again.

I have other restorations I still need to complete so this would just be sitting for a long while and if someone want to trade me the vise for something I'm down for that.

 

[toomanytoyzz]

Looking for a lead screw for a Wilton 746. I got this vise for free (saved it from the scrap pile), but a PO butchered the hell out of the lead screw and welded what appears to be a small section of a socket extension onto the lead screw so you can use a ratchet to open and close the vise.

I might be willing to sell or trade the swivel base and both jaws if I can't get the lead screw. PM me either way.

 

[Duct Tape Man]

Still have these swivel base parts for my old Reed 406 (huge mother from 1912). If anyone needs them, willing to trade for a couple old Plomb tools, or whatyagot?

 

[wrenchguy]

Still have these swivel base parts for my old Reed 406 (huge mother from 1912). If anyone needs them, willing to trade for a couple old Plomb tools, or whatyagot?

pm sent about the center swivel bolt. thanks.

 

[MC1983]

I'm looking for a retaining screw collar for a parker 206. If you have one laying around, please let me know.

 

[Grigg]

I have available for a good and reasonable offer the screw retaining collar from a Parker, probably 6". It came poorly adapted to a Reed 6" vice of mine. The large diameter of the collar it slips around is about 2-7/8" or 3". It uses two 3/8" bolts to hold it on. It's in fine shape.

I'm looking for a retaining screw collar for a parker 206. If you have one laying around, please let me know.

Is that one suitable or to large?
If you have dimensions, pictures, or other info about what you're looking for it wouldn't hurt to add.

 

[bmar]

Hi - i have a couple of items off a Parker 204: the rotating base is in good serviceable shape - free to anyone willing to pay shipping! Also have the screw end cap with original screw - if anyone wants this please suggest a trade - looking for WWII blue-point or plumb combination wrenches for example or???

 

[K-TRON]

I have a nice old American Scales # 214A 3-1/2" machinist vise which either needs a new home or a new rotating table. The cast iron lip of the rotating table broke into pieces a couple weeks ago. The static jaw/dynamic jaw and slide are in great shape. The jaws have a "C" profile and are "removable". I have most (but not all) of the parts which broke off of the table. All that it really needs is a new table and it will be as good as new. I replaced it with a bigger Yost 205 which better suits my needs. Message me if you have a good table for one, or want to purchase mine for parts to fix yours. I am located in Huntington, NY, 11743



Chris

 

[mark18mwm]

I just stumbled on a free huge, Columbian 606 vise. Great score, except.... The spindle (lead screw) is broke mid way on the threads. I have found one on the net for about $200 but was hoping maybe one of you guys might lead me to find a cheaper one. This vise is in great shape except for the spindle, but I don't think I want to put $200 into it. It appears to be 1 1/8" modified acme thread, would a acme threaded rod fit and I could weld my handle to it? Or, if one of you guys are parting out a vise like this I might be interested in buying a spindle form someone. here is a link to vise parts.com description of the part. the one they list is a 606 M3, mine is a old regular 606 as far as I can tell. I'm not sure if that makes a difference. I would apreciate any help or advise, thank's .http://www.viseparts.com/product_p/ba-10106s23.htm

 

[macgee]

I just stumbled on a free huge, Columbian 606 vise. Great score, except.... The spindle (lead screw) is broke mid way on the threads. I have found one on the net for about $200 but was hoping maybe one of you guys might lead me to find a cheaper one. This vise is in great shape except for the spindle, but I don't think I want to put $200 into it. It appears to be 1 1/8" modified acme thread, would a acme threaded rod fit and I could weld my handle to it? Or, if one of you guys are parting out a vise like this I might be interested in buying a spindle form someone. here is a link to vise parts.com description of the part. the one they list is a 606 M3, mine is a old regular 606 as far as I can tell. I'm not sure if that makes a difference. I would apreciate any help or advise, thank's .http://www.viseparts.com/product_p/ba-10106s23.htm

Looks like a buttress thread, not an acme thread.

You want to post the measurements. Threads per inch, O.D. of threads and spindle shaft, total length of spindle and total length of threads.

My Athol vise have the same buttress thread.

 

[mark18mwm]

Looks like a buttress thread, not an acme thread.

You want to post the measurements. Threads per inch, O.D. of threads and spindle shaft, total length of spindle and total length of threads.

My Athol vise have the same buttress thread.

Thanks for the reply. I really am kind of ignorant as to the type of threads on the vise. I'll admit to not knowing a lot about vises. I thought it might be acme thread because the one in the ad on Viseparts.com said it was, but that is for a 606 M3 and mine is a old 606, no suffix to the number. I will try to get the measurements and a pic of the screw if that helps but it might a day or two before I can. I truly do appreciate the reply and assistance, thank's. I hope I can find one to work, be a shame to scrap (which is where it was headed) the vise, in great shape otherwise, and I always wanted a big vise.

 

[Outlawmws]

The one he linked to in Vise parts.com is a modified Acme thread, which probably means they used fewer threads per inch than is usual for that size screw. Its not a buttress thread.

Have you contacted VP.com and asked them if it will fit your 606? (it probably will, Columbian did not seem to change things a lot, over the years, (I just got a 604-1/2, and they have made that base model for 90 + years now. With a few suffix changes...)

I strongly doubt you will find commercially made Acme thread the exact size you need. I think if you got REALLY LUCKY you might find a used screw from another otherwise dead vise, but VP.COM is likely your best bet.

 

[David Jackson]

Rock Island for parts. A good friend of mine died a few years ago and I am trying to help his daughter raise some money. This vise is broken and the swivel seems OK; probably some other parts as well. Please make an offer and consider that she can't pay to ship so you will have to. She is in Butte County, north central California. See pics.

 

[mark18mwm]

Thank's Outlaw. I'll call VP and check it out. Probably a stupid question but I have to ask. Have you ever heard of anyone welding the screw back together and still get the threads lined up correctly and then cleaned up good enough to use? I guess I realize it's a long shot trying to find a used screw but I was hoping I may get lucky. Some how I thought that the threaded rod most likely was different, but again I had to ask. Thanks again I'll call VP.com.

 

[Outlawmws]

David; did you happen to get the model No. off the Rock Island? That and the jaw width would help people tell if any of the parts beyond the broken dynamic jaw can be used.

Mark; While its possible to splice a broken screw back together, it would not ever be up to its original strength. It's size gives options not available on smaller screws though. I'd expect if you had to pay someone to do this it would cost more than that new screw would.

If I were to try this I'd do this:

Chuck up each of the screw halves and drill and tap then for say a 3/8 or 7/16 fine thread at least an inch deep. then get a grade 8 bolt with at least 2" of thread and cut the bolt head and shank off, and clean up the cut end. chamfur both broken ends ot the screw, and thread everything together.

Carefully measure the threads from one piece to the other, and adjust the threaded part so they are the right spacing, then fixture them so the can't move. Have someone really good TIG weld the two pieces together and fill past the OD of the threads.

Chuck the screw up in a lathe and single point the thread back into existence.

And Bob's you uncle. The grade 8 "splint" should keep the parts from coming apart at or near the weld; The weld keeps it rotationally strong.

The ONLY reason this would have a prayer is that 1-1/8" screw size.

 

[David Jackson]

Outlaw; based on my pics it looks like a No. 573. I stupidly forgot to take a tape measure; however using an old yardstick I think the jaws are around 4 1/2". The swivel seems OK.

 

[drivesitfar]

David: i know you are trying to help your friend's daughter out with this stuff since he passed so here's my 2 cents. can you post a local Craigs ad if there isn't any offers from a member here?

my guess is the Wilton might be worth $50-$100 if the missing jaw isn't all messed up so a new jaw could be made. it looks like a 5 incher.

the Rock Island might be worth $30 as is to the right guy and the little pipe vise on the corner of the bench might be worth $20. also check in the dark corners because most of the loggers i knew had an anvil or two laying around which might bring in some needed funds for the daughter and her medical bills.

good luck

 

[David Jackson]

David: i know you are trying to help your friend's daughter out with this stuff since he passed so here's my 2 cents. can you post a local Craigs ad if there isn't any offers from a member here?

my guess is the Wilton might be worth $50-$100 if the missing jaw isn't all messed up so a new jaw could be made. it looks like a 5 incher.

the Rock Island might be worth $30 as is to the right guy and the little pipe vise on the corner of the bench might be worth $20. also check in the dark corners because most of the loggers i knew had an anvil or two laying around which might bring in some needed funds for the daughter and her medical bills.

good luck

Thanks very much for your suggestion and that indeed has been my plan. I thank you also for your pricing suggestions which I will pass along as well. And, believe it or not, you are absolutely right about an anvil. I did some checking on those and was quite surprised to see asking prices of $250 and up for old ones (which this one is) which weigh over 100 pounds. I have not weighed this one; probably should take a scale along next time I visit this lady.

There are two more pipe vices, one fairly tall, perhaps 15 or 16 inches; and another small one. There is also a broken Columba or Columbia, not sure of the name; a pretty small one maybe 2 or 3 inches.

I surely thank all those who have commented on this situation.

Regards,

DJ

 

[Outlawmws]

David, that broken one is probably a Columbian.

on the anvil, definitly weigh it if you can (Take a board as a spreader between the anvil base and scale so you don't bend/tweak the scale...). also, check for ANY markings; take a wire brush if needed. That should be worth some coin unless its got issues, or is not a good one (cast, instead of forged...)

Also take a steel ball (Steely's we called then as kids) and drop it on the top surface to see what rebound it has. The better rebound, the better the anvil. (RR track isn't that bad, I dropped one on a drill press table and it didn't rebound at all...)